Syck and Xi Swarms are cool and fun to play against.
Syck and Xi Swarms are cool and fun to play against
Is... is this irony? I'm not sure. Boom's usually optimistic so I think this is a genuine opinion. It sounds like irony. Scyks are cool though.
If by Xi swarm you mean Xi+swarm that's okay. A swarm of Xis might get annoying.
Something being cool and fun to play against, and being too efficient and in need of a light tap on the head, are not mutually exclusive things.
Imagine if a Xi + 6 FO swarm had to choose between Malarus, or a generic with Terrex crew. The horror.
Heaven forbid the TIE Swarm be good.
Imagine if you saw FO swarms or Scyk swarms as often as you saw force aces.
34 minutes ago, Biophysical said:Imagine if you saw FO swarms or Scyk swarms as often as you saw force aces.
And saw turrets rising up to meet them. 
Generally, I agree. Swarms are fun and feel like x wing when played at a normal speed.
However, this is totally anecdotal evidence, but the one game that I played against Six Sick Scyks was miserable (again, only one game, so take this with a grain of salt). Between plinking ions and tractors on my 2 green die ships, I just couldn’t get any shots off and the whole game felt like I had no agency which was not fun.
But that’s a tractor/ion problem, not a Scyk problem.
Luckily fun is subjective and people like and dislike different aspects of the game.
I don't mind swarms and occasionally play them myself, but I know not all players like playing against it. Inluding my most regular opponent. Which is totally fine, people are allowed to dislike a listtype. Wether that be swarms, Beef or Aces etc.
X Wing is cool and fun to play.
7 hours ago, Revanur said:Luckily fun is subjective and people like and dislike different aspects of the game.
I don't mind swarms and occasionally play them myself, but I know not all players like playing against it. Inluding my most regular opponent. Which is totally fine, people are allowed to dislike a listtype. Wether that be swarms, Beef or Aces etc.
Agreed. For my part I get a downer feel when I see two or three big, chonky ships. Just seems like such a slog having to chip away at them.
Edited by SpinlandSwarms are boring to play with and against and it's only the convenience of TTS and absence of real, in person games that is making people forget that.
^ my entry into the Great X-Wing Hot Take Off
13 hours ago, Biophysical said:Imagine if you saw FO swarms or Scyk swarms as often as you saw force aces.
I do see them more often than force aces. Force users are at a relative all time low since the intro of the republic faction in my area
2 hours ago, ScummyRebel said:I do see them more often than force aces. Force users are at a relative all time low since the intro of the republic faction in my area
I'd venture to guess that you're a rarity. Are you seeing non-Bugs, or are your generics mostly bugs?
I mean local metas can vary wildly. My regular playing partners (before Corona) are Empire/FO, and Empire/FO/Scum, and sometimes a Resistance player. I know there's a Republic player but haven't played him, he seems mostly retired from the game, and there was a new player going Rebels right before Corona... Only one I've played after Corona is the Empire/FO player.
If I branch to CIS, I'll be the first local player to play them, there are no bugs in my local meta.
18 hours ago, Boom Owl said:Syck and Xi Swarms are cool and fun to play against.
Absolutely... 
Fenn Rau - Fang Fighter (68)
Tansarii Point Veteran (29)
Marksmanship (1)
Autoblasters (3)
Total (33)
Tansarii Point Veteran (29)
Marksmanship (1)
Autoblasters (3)
Total (33)
Tansarii Point Veteran (29)
Marksmanship (1)
Autoblasters (3)
Total (33)
Tansarii Point Veteran (29)
Marksmanship (1)
Autoblasters (3)
Total (33)
Build Total (200)
1 hour ago, underling said:Absolutely...
Fenn Rau - Fang Fighter (68)
Tansarii Point Veteran (29)
Marksmanship (1)
Autoblasters (3)
Total (33)Tansarii Point Veteran (29)
Marksmanship (1)
Autoblasters (3)
Total (33)Tansarii Point Veteran (29)
Marksmanship (1)
Autoblasters (3)
Total (33)Tansarii Point Veteran (29)
Marksmanship (1)
Autoblasters (3)
Total (33)Build Total (200)
That's not a swarm, that's an ace+swarmlet, this is a swarm:
Jakku Gunrunner (29)
Ship total: 29 Half Points: 15 Threshold: 3
Jakku Gunrunner (29)
Ship total: 29 Half Points: 15 Threshold: 3
Cartel Spacer (25)
Ion Cannon (6)
Ship total: 31 Half Points: 16 Threshold: 2
Cartel Spacer (25)
Ion Cannon (6)
Ship total: 31 Half Points: 16 Threshold: 2
Sunny Bounder (27)
Autoblasters (3)
Ship total: 30 Half Points: 15 Threshold: 2
Cartel Spacer (25)
Jamming Beam (0)
Ship total: 25 Half Points: 13 Threshold: 2
Cartel Spacer (25)
Jamming Beam (0)
Ship total: 25 Half Points: 13 Threshold: 2
Total: 200
There's also the 7 ship list with a zealous recruit, 3 tractor scyks and 3 nekkid/jamming beam scyks, or the 2 zealous, 2 ion, 2 tractor list. There was even an 8 ship list with a zealous, 2 tractor scyks, 1 nekkid/jamming, 3 MG TIES, and autopilot drone.
Edited by Cerebrawl2 hours ago, Biophysical said:I'd venture to guess that you're a rarity. Are you seeing non-Bugs, or are your generics mostly bugs?
Nah force users are a dying breed, they can’t really compete.
So two thoughts on swarms. They are bit too efficient. People also do not get enough reps against them.
At the local level I would see swarms just before a system open, the store championship, or if I or another player specifically requested to either try a swarm or practice against one. Basically I need to travel to see them. Even when Sear swarm was at its apex you didn't see it anywhere near as often as other competitive builds.
People take for granted how much practice they have against aces or other more popular archetypes. Its also easier to research how to deal with an Ace list. There is a multitude of excellent material on this forum alone. Swarms are more difficult. You hear take out the carrier on Sloane swarms or in the near future take out the Xi on Malurus swarms but that's easier said than done. Basically you need to learn how to break up the swarm to get to your target and that takes practice.
I honestly wouldn't mind a season where swarms were better because people could get experience against them.
As cool as Scyks are nowadays (and have been since day one IMHO), they're clearly still not cool enough for people to remember HOW TO SPELL THEIR NAME CORRECTLY...
Now. About them Kihraxz....
19 minutes ago, FTS Gecko said:As cool as Scyks are nowadays (and have been since day one IMHO), they're clearly still not cool enough for people to remember HOW TO SPELL THEIR NAME CORRECTLY...
Now. About them Kihraxz....
This is the worst part about being a dyslexic scifi fan.
2 hours ago, Stay OT Leader said:Nah force users are a dying breed, they can’t really compete.
Okay.
14 hours ago, Cuz05 said:X Wing is cool and fun to play.
19 minutes ago, Biophysical said:Okay.
There were only 3 force POINTS in the entire top 16 of Coruscant and not loads more waiting outside in lists 17-32. If you’re using the Force you’re not really trying very hard to win.
43 minutes ago, Stay OT Leader said:There were only 3 force POINTS in the entire top 16 of Coruscant and not loads more waiting outside in lists 17-32. If you’re using the Force you’re not really trying very hard to win.
One tournament in a meta that just had its top list nerfed.