Its so sleepy in here. Current points included for reference.

• If the RZ2As had a title that locked the arc forward what else should it do and what would the i1 cost? 32
• If the Resistance Transport did not have a reverse maneuver how much would Logistics cost? 32
• If the Firespray's boost action was red how much would Boba cost? 86
• If the errata for Slave 1 was reversed what would Slave 1 cost? 5
• If the Athersprite's ship ability required using all available Force Charges how much would Obi-Wan cost? 49
• If the Athersprite's Target Lock was a Purple action how much would Obi-Wan cost? 49
• If the K-Turns on Tie Defenders were red how much would the i1s cost? 67
• If the Tie Defenders ship ability was blank what would the i1s cost? 67
• If the LAAT's ship ability was a separate title how much would the i2 LAAT cost? 51
• If the Tie Academy pilot had a Range 0 only version of Warthogs pilot ability what would it cost? 22
• If Kylo only had 1 force charge what would he cost? 76
• If Wookies did not have the re-enforce action what would Kashyyk Defenders cost? 42
• If Dash did not ignore obstacles what would he cost? 85
• If Soontir's pilot ability did not work while stressed how much would he cost? 54
• If the Tie Phantom did not gain an Evade after the decloak action what would a Imdaar cost? 43
• If the Tie Phantom did not have access to the cloak action what would a Imdaar cost? 43
• If the N1 ship ability read "After you fully execute a speed 3-5 maneuver, you may perform a barrel roll action" what would a Bravo cost? 33
• If Craig was Craig how Craig would Craig be? Craig?

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1 hour ago, Boom Owl said:

If the RZ2As had a title that locked the arc forward what else should it do and what would the i1 cost? 32

Provoke the rage of Rebel fans. 28 points.

1 hour ago, Boom Owl said:

If the Resistance Transport did not have a reverse maneuver how much would Logistics cost? 32

Maybe 30, same as a Y-Wing, but it'd be a really boring and lacklustre ship. Reverse keeps it interesting.

1 hour ago, Boom Owl said:

If the Firespray's boost action was red how much would Boba cost? 86

Boba minus Engine Upgrade = 82 if the Slave 1 errata was reversed. Otherwise, 84.

1 hour ago, Boom Owl said:

If the LAAT's ship ability was a separate title how much would the i2 LAAT cost? 51

40. It'd be a bit better than a K-Wing at 38 due to actions and health.

1 hour ago, Boom Owl said:

If Kylo only had 1 force charge what would he cost? 76

72 works for me, halfway between his current price and Blackout.

1 hour ago, Boom Owl said:

If Wookies did not have the re-enforce action what would Kashyyk Defenders cost? 42

Honestly, 41. I think full arc 3 red ships deserve to be breakpointed away from 5-per-list.

1 hour ago, Boom Owl said:

If the N1 ship ability read "After you fully execute a speed 3-5 maneuver, you may perform a barrel roll action" what would a Bravo cost? 33

Rebel A-Wing minus 1 = 28.

1 hour ago, Boom Owl said:

If the Tie Phantom did not gain an Evade after the decloak action what would a Imdaar cost? 43

I could go with 41/43 for Imdaar/Sigma. Initiative and mobility warrant an increase over an X-Wing.

1 hour ago, Boom Owl said:

If the Phantom did not have access to the cloak action what would a Imdaar cost? 43

37, 2 more than a Belbullab, and 39 for Sigma.

1 hour ago, Boom Owl said:

If Craig was Craig how Craig would Craig be? Craig?

Fezzik.

Fezzik.

1 minute ago, theBitterFig said:

Fezzik.

Fezzik.

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1 hour ago, theBitterFig said:

40. It'd be a bit better than a K-Wing at 38 due to actions and health.

Would it really be worse than a Lambda?

1 hour ago, Cerebrawl said:

Would it really be worse than a Lambda?

No white coordinate and no 3rd red die make it worse, despite a better dial and base size and a more convenient turret.

45 minutes ago, theBitterFig said:

No white coordinate and no 3rd red die make it worse, despite a better dial and base size and a more convenient turret.

Does it really though? You have to take available upgrades into account. There's no path where the Lambda shoots twice and debuffs when it misses, or other shenanigans open to the LAAT. Without upgrades I agree, but they're party busses, nobody brings naked omicrons. Also it's an ordnance carrier.

3 hours ago, Cerebrawl said:

Does it really though? You have to take available upgrades into account. There's no path where the Lambda shoots twice and debuffs when it misses, or other shenanigans open to the LAAT. Without upgrades I agree, but they're party busses, nobody brings naked omicrons. Also it's an ordnance carrier.

You gotta pay for ordnance, though. From my point of view, most of the lists where I'd bring a Lambda, I'd rather have that. I've been a big Palp Defenders fan, and I can't see having as much fun with a Palp LAAT. I want that easy coordinate.

Lambda is a point more than an ARC. I think it's worth it. I don't think a no-ability LAAT is better than an ARC.

But hey, if neither of us is convinced by the other, well, it's not like it matters anyhow.

1 hour ago, theBitterFig said:

You gotta pay for ordnance, though. From my point of view, most of the lists where I'd bring a Lambda, I'd rather have that. I've been a big Palp Defenders fan, and I can't see having as much fun with a Palp LAAT. I want that easy coordinate.

Lambda is a point more than an ARC. I think it's worth it. I don't think a no-ability LAAT is better than an ARC.

But hey, if neither of us is convinced by the other, well, it's not like it matters anyhow.

Well if we're comparing with palp shuttle, there's Aayala Secura, for focus>coordinate. Then add ghost company and Cody for good measure. Under your pricing that's 65 points, for a very neat package. Every turn focus and coordinate, shoot twice, and give strain on misses. Alternatively, for the same points, Aayala and seventh fleet gunner, to go all in on support.

11 hours ago, Cerebrawl said:

Well if we're comparing with palp shuttle, there's Aayala Secura, for focus>coordinate. Then add ghost company and Cody for good measure. Under your pricing that's 65 points, for a very neat package. Every turn focus and coordinate, shoot twice, and give strain on misses. Alternatively, for the same points, Aayala and seventh fleet gunner, to go all in on support.

My gut is that I'm not scared by that 65 point 2-red ship. Maybe I'm wrong not to be scared by it, but that's where I am.

I think 40 not 43 or higher for a no-rerolls LAAT since I'm sort of presuming the tricks are mostly fairly priced. On just the ship alone, I think it's a bit better than a K-Wing, and not as good as a Lambda.

On 11/5/2020 at 8:16 AM, Boom Owl said:

If Wookies did not have the re-enforce action what would Kashyyk Defenders cost? 42

Umm... 42. Focus should be the Wookiee's action 90% of the time.