3 hours ago, svelok said:

But also, has anyone genuinely experimented with naked Boba ever? That might be a neat timeline. Fat Han is among my least favorite ships in existence and naked Han among my favorite; it might be really interesting to play with for a season.

I've considered naked Boba, but you get such value out of his upgrades. Slave 1 is super good at i5, Maul is great, Maul plus contraband is even better, fearless/lonewolf are good, and bombs are good.

You have to make the case that those points are better spent elsewhere and it is really hard to make that case, especially for Slave 1, Maul, and Contraband.

2 hours ago, Scott Pilgrim2 said:

I've considered naked Boba, but you get such value out of his upgrades. Slave 1 is super good at i5, Maul is great, Maul plus contraband is even better, fearless/lonewolf are good, and bombs are good.

You have to make the case that those points are better spent elsewhere and it is really hard to make that case, especially for Slave 1, Maul, and Contraband.

Honestly, without Slave 1 and Maul, Boba would probably be worth taking with just Fearless and Contraband. The problem lies then in where do you put the the remaining 109 points. Nothing in Hyperspace quite fills that gap well. Fearless Fenn and Nom Lumb fit, but even with Nom being good, more toys on Boba is likely better. If Old T came back, that would be a decent option. You could try putting multiple bodies in but that just keeps Boba from getting into range 1.

With the way things are currently pointed in Scum Hyperspace, it just seems the more prudent option to take Boba and his toolkit of upgrades instead.

6 minutes ago, 5050Saint said:

Nothing in Hyperspace quite fills that gap well.

Nothing?

Sunny or Seevor would like a word with you.

How about:

Boba (86)

Zealous Recruit (41)

Zealous Recruit (41)

Sunny Bounder w/ Autoblaster (30)

Total (198)

OR

Swap out Sunny for Seevor at the same points.

You could also add CC to Boba for an even 200.

This seems reasonable to me, as the other three ships would (possibly) take some of the heat off Boba.

17 minutes ago, underling said:

Nothing?

Sunny or Seevor would like a word with you.

Well, I specifically was talking about Boba + Fearless + Contraband, but I catch your drift.

People have too much faith in Sunny or I have confirmation bias on her, as I have literally never seen her trigger in 3 years of play. And, Seevor isn't in hyperspace.

10 minutes ago, 5050Saint said:

Well, I specifically was talking about Boba + Fearless + Contraband, but I catch your drift.

People have too much faith in Sunny or I have confirmation bias on her, as I have literally never seen her trigger in 3 years of play. And, Seevor isn't in hyperspace.

Oops, my bad on Seevor.

I've got limited experience with Sunny, but it seems like she's been triggering maybe once per game for me.

I think it may be her threat as much as actual results that can help her a little.

My thinking with Boba is that I believe you can run him naked, assuming you have two or three other legitimate threats.

The fangs definitely are, and you'd just need a fourth ship.

If not Sunny, maybe a Cartel with an ion cannon?

3 hours ago, 5050Saint said:

If Old T came back, that would be a decent option.

THIS!

3 hours ago, 5050Saint said:

People have too much faith in Sunny

NOT THIS!

2 hours ago, underling said:

she's been triggering maybe once per game for me.

On blanks? That's her story for me lately. Places 5th blank green die removes Sunny .

Faith is really the word with her. Thing is, it's not her dice I count on, it's her position as something that has to be ignored but nevertheless has to be considered. The blocking potential is one thing, but its a lot easier to ignore a naked Spacer when you know for sure its not about to turn out 3 hits when you really cant afford to take them. If she does roll them up, she's generally very impactful, I've had some epic takedowns from her.

But as her commander, you super can't afford to treat her like something that actually is a threat. She's like something you happen to be able to afford. Or can't afford more than.

Running Boba naked feels a bit like running Fenn naked. Too many points in a thing that's depending on variance when predictably charging into R1 of things. Fearless would be minimum.

Without Slave 1 to bail him out, and without at least a few other things, I don't think I'd even consider him in a list. If its a thing I want, there are much cheaper Firesprays, who can still pack influential toys.

Notsomuch Emon, who costs more or less the same when kitted up, but only lives half as long and doesn't hurt half as much.

I think I'd really love to see what happens with Slave 1 out of HS. And Andrasta dropped a fair bit.

If Conc bombs weren't ridiculously cheap.

I don't mind being the only person flying Scum at a store tourney

Slightly off topic, but I played a couple of practice games with the following tonight:

Skull Squadron Pilot w/ Crack Shot (49)

Skull Squadron Pilot w/ Crack Shot (49)

Black Sun Assassin w/ Crack Shot (50)

Black Sun Assassin w/ Crack Shot (50)

Total (198)

Lordy that was fun...