15 hours ago, Revan Reborn said:

You're obviously a math guy, so you base your strategy on statistics. Remind me , how did the Moneyball strategy work out of the Oakland Athletics?

Have you ever won any tournaments with Cracken and your statistics?

Don't bother answering -- I don't care .

Your reliance on Cracken seems to be dependent on facing an opponent with another MSU fleet. Perhaps that's the local META in your area , but that's not universal, and MSU builds rarely make it to the finals because they don't achieve high enough MoV.

If Cracken goes up against ships with high attack pools, the loss of a single die is insignificant. And since Cracken's ability only benefits small and medium ships, they lack the hull points to deal with high damage. You can try keep your ships at long range to minimize the size of incoming attack pools, but an experienced player will figure out how to get close, and all it could take is one medium range attack from an ISD2 or VSD2 or OSD's front/special arc to overwhelm Cracken's ability and one-shot a Rebel small ship -- or damage the Rebel ship enough that it's forced to flee.

It's precisely that situation that MM is superior to Cracken because she can cancel a Double Hit or Crit at medium range, and force a reroll on Hit-Crit at close range.

MSU fleets generally do well against Onagers regardless of what Commander is chosen. But once those small ships are past the Onager's special arc, MM is much tougher to deal with because the Rebel ships are free to slow down and try to stay a medium range while remaining in the Onager's rear or side arcs. Whereas Cracken's small ships have to stay at Speed 3-4 to receive his benefit, so they can't hover behind the Onager and grind it down.

Finally, Cracken does nothing against squadrons. Bomber squadrons are arguably a "hard counter" to Cracken; Maarek Stele could be renamed "Cracken's Bane"; TIE Bombers are fast enough to keep up with ships travelling at Speed 4 (although Rebel bombers would have a harder time); and even normal squadrons can grind down Rebel small and medium ships with their single Battery die. Whereas MM offers far greater protection against enemy squadrons.

I think Crack can be effective in very specific circumstances, whereas MM provides better protection in a variety of circumstances, and doesn't restrict the Rebel player's play style.

It's always so weird to a see a post so full of presumptions. The highlighted line above is outright wrong. I know from 1st hand experience. @ExplosiveTooka was an active member of our local meta until they moved and is still QUITE insightful into the effectiveness of the rebel meta. The Craken list I was speaking of when I said "LOLing" at an Onager was in fact @ExplosiveTooka 's.

Maybe if folks stopped quoting and responding constantly the lone wolf could hunt alone. It obviously doesn't actually want to be part of the community and is just here to troll and make itself feel important.

Don't cross the streams.

Don't quote the troll.

12 hours ago, Alzer said:

Maybe if folks stopped quoting and responding constantly the lone wolf could hunt alone. It obviously doesn't actually want to be part of the community and is just here to troll and make itself feel important.

Of course, because none of you Mean Girls are guilty of deliberately antagonizing, i.e. TROLLING, me. 🙄

Even if I ignored this derailed thread, I can provide an example of Jabberwockie trolling me just a few days ago on the Clone Wars Waves thread -- completely unprovoked. And surprise, surprise, 4 of the other insipid Mean Girls gave him Likes and LOLs for it.

You're complete hypocrites for accusing me of trolling. You just don't want me here because I don't display the deference that all of you delusionally believe you're entitled to.

11 hours ago, BiggsIRL said:

Don't cross the streams

I'm kinda fuzzy on that whole good-bad thing. What do you mean, "bad?"

Imagine all life as we know it stopping instantaneously and every molecule in your body exploding at the speed of light.

48 minutes ago, Tayloraj100 said:

Imagine all life as we know it stopping instantaneously and every molecule in your body exploding at the speed of light.

so....... Not good?

Sounds better than the alternative of a slow lingering decline.

what are we talking about again?

13 minutes ago, LTD said:

Sounds better than the alternative of a slow lingering decline.

what are we talking about again?

World peace

On 10/27/2020 at 3:40 PM, Ginkapo said:

3 points here, the next ban is 3 weeks. I assume the one after is 3 months.

Wait, are there moderators on these forums?

I’m actually impressed by their light touch. And equally surprised that anyone from FFG is reading these.

I’d also like to sincerely apologize for getting everyone all worked up because Cracken is a pile of crap.

JUST KIDDING! I wish I’d never mentioned Cracken, or never responded to the guy who first suggested using him.

33 minutes ago, Cpt ObVus said:

Wait, are there moderators on these forums?

I’m actually impressed by their light touch. And equally surprised that anyone from FFG is reading these.

Moderators exist but they dont read the forums, however they will review posts if they are getting flagged by multiple people. So we need to self mod and use the flag system.

17 hours ago, Alzer said:

Maybe if folks stopped quoting and responding constantly the lone wolf could hunt alone. It obviously doesn't actually want to be part of the community and is just here to troll and make itself feel important.

If only...

There is a similar fellow over on the legion forums who people cant seem to stop responding to his bait as well and it makes browsing the forums somewhat unpleasant 😕

5 hours ago, Revan Reborn said:

We are entitled to "deference." It's a personal choice, some might consider it a gift we give to others. You've no doubt noticed people are pretty selective in giving it and don't defer to some opinions, even emphatically stated ones.

My offer stands.

It sounds like you don't enjoy being trolled.

It would be a reasonable assumption from there that other people don't like it when you troll them.

Are you interested in agreeing to coexist, no verbal abuse from anyone?

This thread is generating a lot of reports. Please keep interactions civil or additional disciplinary measures will be handed out. I strongly encourage you to just block users that you have difficulty interacting with in a civil manner.

19 hours ago, FFGMatt said:

This thread is generating a lot of reports. Please keep interactions civil or additional disciplinary measures will be handed out. I strongly encourage you to just block users that you have difficulty interacting with in a civil manner .

@Revan Reborn :






I lied, I couldn't resist. My impending ban in 3... 2... 1...

Matt Matt Matt Matt

On 10/26/2020 at 7:12 PM, EBerling said:

This is my hot take on the Armada FFG Boards:
Topic 1: Game Element X is too good, it seems problematic for the balance of the game.
-- 95% of responding community members: Git gud, this game is wonderfully balanced, there are all sorts of counters you can fly! Element X is not invicible, heck it's honestly kinda bad if you know how to play.
- meanwhile elsewhere in another thread-
Topic 2: Game Element X seems really bad... I don't think it's viable.
--95% of responding community members: Git gud, this game is wonderfully balanced, there are all sorts of X lists you can fly! Element X isn't impossible to win with, heck it's one of the best things in the game if you know how to play.

Whenever anyone says anything remotely critical of an aspect of the game (whatever the reason), the community piles on with dismissals and reassurances about how Armada is just amazing and beyond reproach. Which is why I've been playing this game for nearly five hears and have only popped into these boards a handful of times.

On this forum it seems this way. Its always the same few people doing it though. I hope you also have other people in your real world to talk to that are passionate about Armada despite its flaws and design problems.

On 10/27/2020 at 8:40 PM, Ginkapo said:

3 points here, the next ban is 3 weeks. I assume the one after is 3 months.

So, is that something to be proud about or just public information you wanted to exchange with us and your fellow forum trolls.

On 10/28/2020 at 6:19 AM, Revan Reborn said:

Whenever you and the rest of the Mean Girls clique get together to Like each other's posts, write in your Burn Book, and braid each other's hair, the lack of individuality and integrity that you demonstrate fills me with proud for being a lone wolf . The fact that you constantly mirror each other's opinions just diminishes them, rendering them worthless;

If I read between the lines here correctly, it seemed this forum culture actually caused another innocent soul to go insane. I assume he was innocent at some point, I believe in the good in people.

17 hours ago, FFGMatt said:

This thread is generating a lot of reports. Please keep interactions civil or additional disciplinary measures will be handed out. I strongly encourage you to just block users that you have difficulty interacting with in a civil manner.

Wow, first time I saw that. Someone is on a roll it seems.

The issue with the Onager - or more precisely Ignition attacks - was discussed already prior to its release. Back then I was of the opinion that the ship is unnecessarily bad for fleet variability and too strong against small and slow ships. I feel actually validitated in this opinion based on my own experiences at least. In my area people tried to deal with it using MC30s and, while they were succesfull at not dying, they could also not kill the Onager because Speed 3 means it can just fly away.

Also, beware the specter of the pass token mechanic for it will change the game beyond what you currently know. Will it be good change? I doubt it but we will see - people I have a high opinion of say it will be good.

Monthly forum post - check.

You know, on reflection, what is the word for mansplaining to someone you think is a man? If you read through all his replies to me, you'll see him assuming I don't have basic knowledge about the game meta frequently. While he just has to make his arguments, I had to make my arguments, and I had to make the case that I was coming from a place of legitimacy/competence to people who don't know me from my play.

So I'd like to turn this around on you @Revan Reborn . Why should people listen to you? The Onager was only out for two months before quarantine, and I don't think any of us have seen you on Vassal or Tabletop Simulator. Have you played Cracken in wave7 or 8? Rebel MSU in wave 7 or 8? Is there anyone who you can tag to confirm that for us?

i regret that i have but one like to give to my country....

32 minutes ago, ExplosiveTooka said:

You know, on reflection, what is the word for mansplaining to someone you think is a man? @Revan Reborn .

'splaining ?

4 hours ago, RapidReload said:

If I read between the lines here correctly, it seemed this forum culture actually caused another innocent soul to go insane. I assume he was innocent at some point, I believe in the good in people.

Or you could try searching his content, along with his previous account ( @Reavern , apparently banned for a death threat.)

I agree this forum has some issues with entertaining multiple opinions, and it’s something worth discussing. But the rest of the forum won’t have a tirade if you dare to disagree with them. They just disagree, usually in a unified direction. 😒

Not humoring some of what this fellow has said is not the problem.

32 minutes ago, The Jabbawookie said:

Or you could try searching his content, along with his previous account ( @Reavern , apparently banned for a death threat.)

I agree this forum has some issues with entertaining multiple opinions, and it’s something worth discussing. But the rest of the forum won’t have a tirade if you dare to disagree with them. They just disagree, usually in a unified direction. 😒

Not humoring some of what this fellow has said is not the problem.

I'm familiar with his "work" and attempted a joke. I actually indirectly called his actions here insane, however some very few of his points are valid. The presentation is of course lacking.