9 minutes ago, Rossetti1828 said:

It's speed 1-3 on the card text. Defenders have a red speed 2 Koiogran Turn, so they now have red 2-sloops.

Except Defenders don't have a mod slot.

So Thermals are 1 die per ship in range and Bomblets are 2 right? I actually quite like the new bomb.

Hope the configs are cheap but I am curious to see the upgrade bar on these things. Mod and Astro only do we think?

5 minutes ago, theBitterFig said:

I'm with you on Concussion Bombs. Less on on Thermal Detonators. They've got potentially a bit more punch than Bomblet Generator, but without the non-action, non-disarm reload option. You've got extra options for placement, but this also means that sometimes you'll just have a half-as-effective bomb round, with a ship not getting hit by both, or simply having only dropped one. There's nice synergy with Sabine Wren, though.

If it's the same 5 points as Bomblets, that doesn't feel unfair to me.

/Sa Bombers and Andrasta Emmon could like them for the wide net they can toss out. Sixxa similarly, especially with Bombardier (which /Sa Bombers might also like to take with Thermals), though he can only do it twice.

16 minutes ago, theBitterFig said:

Except Defenders don't have a mod slot.

Aw, I had just been thinking it would be fun on Ryad but I forgot about the mod slot. I think Ved Folso could use it, though.

Its one of those weird things where you think of the 1.0 dials, and then realize, oh no, they don't have that maneuver anymore.

10 minutes ago, Gausebeck said:

Aw, I had just been thinking it would be fun on Ryad but I forgot about the mod slot. I think Ved Folso could use it, though.

Ved's timing is "While", PIE is "Before" so no. He doesn't change the maneuver speed till after PIE's window has passed.

2 hours ago, svelok said:

mad about collusion detector astromech on jedi with gas clouds, but that's not the v-wing's fault

alarmed about the continuing bomb creep, where we keep getting new bombs that are the same as the old bombs but with more charges and bonus strain

v-wing itself continues to look hype

Bomb creep? These bombs each have a 50% chance of no damage, and even if they strain you that’s worth a lot less than actual damage. I remember seeing them in the RRG and thinking “these had better drop two at once or they won’t be nearly as good as either of the current options.”

Wait... PIE?

Is this secretly a Darths & Droids reference?

1 hour ago, zhentil said:

I am wondering about the price for these... mostly the generics.

With the inferior I3 Torrent costing 26 points, and the superior I3 TIE/v1 costing 28 points, the I3 V-Wing will likely cost 27-28 points.

1 hour ago, Hiemfire said:

Sixxa similarly, especially with Bombardier (which /Sa Bombers might also like to take with Thermals), though he can only do it twice.

Immediately thinking of Sixxa as well. With Bombardier he can throw them all 1s, all2 and all 3s, pretty gross.

But 25%chance of no effect at all!

Unlike concussion bombs you can trigger Jostero (with a 50% chance).

Wonder what they will cost.

Just now, Managarmr said:

Immediately thinking of Sixxa as well. With Bombardier he can throw them all 1s, all2 and all 3s, pretty gross.

But 25%chance of no effect at all!

Unlike concussion bombs you can trigger Jostero (with a 50% chance).

Wonder what they will cost.

No Reload action on the Scurrg really neuters the effect though. Andraste Emon would be a better companion to Jostero if going that route. (Torani works with Jostero for certain now too, thanks to FFG splitting the Aftermath step from the rest of the Attack).

Cost wise iirc someone ( @theBitterFig ?) was thinking 5 points. I agree.

5 minutes ago, Managarmr said:

Immediately thinking of Sixxa as well. With Bombardier he can throw them all 1s, all2 and all 3s, pretty gross.

But 25%chance of no effect at all!

Unlike concussion bombs you can trigger Jostero (with a 50% chance).

Wonder what they will cost.

I'm guessing 5. These seem about equivalent to Bomblets to me. 2 dice, damage based on the dice. There's some perks, some disadvantages, but 5 seems fair. I think at 6, almost no one switches away from Proton Bombs, and at 4 it'd feel really underpriced.

2 hours ago, Rossetti1828 said:

It's speed 1-3 on the card text. Defenders have a red speed 2 Koiogran Turn, so they now have red 2-sloops.

No mod slot. ☹️

Sorry didn’t see pg2

I would like to see Emon with thermal detonators and marauder title, and add a skilled bombardier. That makes a very hard bomber :P. The empire Bombers will be nice also since they can use the banks to drop bombs

As for Emon:
Emon Azzameen (71)
Maul (12)
Thermal Detonators (??)
Marauder (6)
Skilled Bombardier (2)

1 minute ago, Silver_leader said:

I would like to see Emon with thermal detonators and marauder title, and add a skilled bombardier. That makes a very hard bomber :P. The empire Bombers will be nice also since they can sue the banks to drop bombs

More like a Stuka with a gunner strapped on. Non-Andraste Emon's payload is too limited for consistent bombing.

3 minutes ago, Silver_leader said:

I would like to see Emon with thermal detonators and marauder title, and add a skilled bombardier. That makes a very hard bomber :P. The empire Bombers will be nice also since they can use the banks to drop bombs

As for Emon:
Emon Azzameen (71)
Maul (12)
Thermal Detonators (??)
Marauder (6)
Skilled Bombardier (2)

How would thermal detonators work on Emon or Finch, or with Trajectory Simulator and Skilled Bombardier?

All of these look extraordinarily fun I hope the BR after red move for Ties is 1 point. That would make Tie swarms quite fun for me.

I really like the Precision tie upgrade too. That one also looks like either 0-1 points.

Will make ties feel more like modern nimble ships.

The Vwing with Boost into lock. AMAZING. And the two titles. Count me in.

What do we think the points values on these will be? I'm guessing around 33.

Has FFG always advertised free shipping in C-USA???

13 minutes ago, Asaverino1019 said:

How would thermal detonators work on Emon or Finch, or with Trajectory Simulator and Skilled Bombardier?

Detonators specify that each must be placed using a different template, so I'd assume they don't work with Finch (no template) but work fine with the rest as long as you don't use the same template twice.

15 minutes ago, JBFancourt said:

Has FFG always advertised free shipping in C-USA???

Maybe not always, but for a really long time yeah.

Was hoping for some Tri-Fighter spoilers, really hoping (against hope) that they will go well with the HMP's so I can find a list I like with those ships xD

Oh well, the V-Wing is looking more solid than I expected honestly.. Some of those pilots and upgrades scare me..

Am I right in thinking that Klick could lock a buddy, say Aayla, on turn 1. Then when she goes diving into range 1 you can use his charge to deny the range bonus against her?

Or hey grab an R3 Astro and pick another ship to protect too! Matchstick for added fun times..?

Esk and Oddball use the same art - which isn't great by the way.

Yeah these look pretty good!

11 minutes ago, FriendofYoda said:

Am I right in thinking that Klick could lock a buddy, say Aayla, on turn 1. Then when she goes diving into range 1 you can use his charge to deny the range bonus against her?

Or hey grab an R3 Astro and pick another ship to protect too! Matchstick for added fun times..?

Edit: Derp. Missed the part before "performs an attack". Yes. It works the way you think it does. R3 Klick could be annoying to fight against.

1 minute ago, Hiemfire said:

No, it would prevent Aayla from gaining the range 1 bonus for her attack since she is the one who is locked if he spent it. It doesn't prevent someone who is attacking the locked ship from gaining the range 1 bonus die.

It says attacks or defends, so you can’t just do it while she is the defender at R1?