9 minutes ago, Cloaker said:

A lot of stuff that doesn't need repeating, you can see it above for god sake, also images.

Sure, I get all that. Listen, I made a mistake with that post. I had a knee-jerk reaction and as I've mentioned before, I regret what I posted and I didn't want to delete it because...it just hides the mistake.

I truly get you want new stuff. My main faction is Rebels. Has been and always will be. A-Wings are my bread and butter and yet all we have are two named pilots. I am not deaf to your problem.

Regardless what I said. I didn't say leave, I did mean take a break. Sometimes time away can give perspective and allow wounds to heal...but they can also just make things worse as you mention or end things entirely. Of course we don't want you gone for good; that's ridiculous. Besides, someone telling you that doesn't mean you should listen.

There's been plenty of people you've not listened to in this post, and that's not a dig, that's your prerogative. Same way I don't necessarily agree with those telling you should try another faction. If you wanted to, you would, but it's not solving the base problem you. We have however reached a situation where the only people that can help you are the same people who don't read these forums, for better or worse; FFG themselves and...they're not exactly talkative with anything beyond the next wave and I doubt that will ever change.

We all need to vent, and I am not saying it's not coming from a bad place at all. As I said, I'm a bit tired of the negativity and I'm exasperated at you taking things that should be positive things, releases in general and twisting them into negatives ala my Extreme Maneuvers comment earlier because it doesn't work with as much stuff as someone else's. I'm sorry you can't be excited for something (understandable, it's not a release for you) but I don't think it's fair to then tear down the other faction with comments like "bleed out underneath a swollen mound of calculate and force tokens". There are people who like those factions and I feel those comments can seem as dismissive of them as other people are towards your own about OT factions.

Republic will always have more Force users, and Separatists are the droid faction, of course they do stuff with calculate.

I may not agree with you all the time, same with Dez, Gauc, Meanie, pretty much anyone on the forum because we all agree and disagree on various topics, but that doesn't mean I dislike you. I expect people to dislike me, that's just how I am I go between self loathing, self righteous, and all kinds of spectrums in between when trying to put my thoughts to 'paper' regarding any issues.

I don't know if what I said above makes sense, sounds right, sounds nice, sounds non-gatekeepery or not. All I can say is, it's what I think.

Let's look forward to a hopefully bright future.

I don't know what I am trying to say. The only thing I think that matters right about now speaking personally: I'm sorry.

Your problem @Cloaker is solved as far as it can be solved.

You can take a highly recommended break (don't make yourself miserable), or you can adopt a faction with new content and have fun.

The third option which you chose so far can be a relief in the short term but won't solve anything longterm.
But even so, it would definitely help to acknowledge that you are aware of the other two, that you discard them for whatever reasons, and that you understand your ranting does not achieve anything besides venting.

The important part is as Ebak said: please don't try to bring down other people's excitement in other threads. That makes this place actively worse and I'm sure you don't want that.

Let's sidestep. We've talked over stopgap recommendations and given advice as best as we can. I think we should shift the discussion towards what new OT stuff could be or look like, Cloaker provided a general outline in his first post, lets get to some specific theory crafting and wish making.

Edit: I retract my statement. I really shouldn't be part of this. I caused the problem, it's not my place to suggest how the topic should go.

@Cloaker isn't alone when having that stance towards the game.
He just has put the effort of writing a post to give visibility to this sentiment some players have. Many others just remain silent or quit the game for good.

I don't think this post is aimed at the other members of the community, to bring them down. This is aimed at FFG, so that they correct course.

I can talk for myself and my immediate circle of friend and acquittances, though. And I could say that Cloaker is being more reasonable than average, since he's willing to give FFG another chance to fix the situation with a card pack.
In my local community, we started playing X-wing before First Edition's wave 6. That is before Scum was a thing.
Most of us collected Rebels and Empire, and we were interested on Rebels and Empire. Not interested on sequel factions, or prequel factions.

It's amazing how marketing is able to mold the opinion of the fans, but not so long ago, the prequels were something Star Wars fans (or at least most of them), just didn't talk about. And all hopes were put on the sequels to be at least as good as the original trilogy.
Well, that ship hypered out, and after the sequels' debacle, it's like everyone is telling themselves "You know, the prequels weren't that bad."

And that's fine. Just don't pretend everyone to all of sudden get invested on the toys from some terrible movies, just because the newest ones are even worse.

In my local community, everyone quit X-wing after the focus shifted away from the OT factions to the sequels, then the prequels. Our local brick-and-mortar game store even dropped X-wing as a product.

Now, you can say that my story is just an anecdote, and that one can't generalize.
Sure. But also, remember all those time when different people within FFG have commented that "X-wing no longer carries the water as it used to", and that it has ceased to be the star product in the company, to just kind of remain profitable but not much else.

I wonder why.

You want the best for the game? Two choices:

• Tell everyone that expresses their discomfort with the current situation to shut up, and act like everything is going great. The "Titanic orchestra" solution.
• Give visibility to the problems so that FFG reacts.

Sometimes what people really need is to know people are there and want things to change too. Wish Making is such a fantastic term for this phenomena, there is something very positive where you come up with an ideal future with your peers.

For the short term though, what about fan content?

Sure, won't help as much once we hit stores, but maybe what X-wing needs in GENERAL is more levity, especially while we are all forced into remote play. It isn't an accident EDH came out during a rough period in MTG's metagame for example.

Doesn't even need to be custom content like upgrades and cards, or a custom points list or alternate hyperspace per-say (Though I think one thing that might be cool for FFG to do is release a 'blank' points spreadsheet for custom stuff), weird listbuilding rules often do a lot to help shake things up! Format changes can affect the relative value of stuff quite dramatically by changing the context things exist in and effectively 'remaking' every card.

For example... what about a hypothetical playmode that has been kicking about in my noodle for a bit to try to force X-wing lists to be less efficiency minded?

I call it Eldar Dengar Highlander. No repeats of ships, upgrades, or initiative values, and if you got an upgrade slot you have to fill one. There probably would need to be more rules because a few extremely oppressive lists are 'EDH' compliant like Fenn+Boba, but maybe if like EDH you had to make a larger list you help reduce that efficiency even more, like being set at 250 points? Or maybe making a 'hall of fame' that isn't allowed because its too unilaterally good and goes against the spirit of the mode.

Either way, its interesting because now you can't generally run tri-aces, you are often forced to use inefficient ships to round out your points, and often you will be taking an upgrade you normally wouldn't consider, especially if you have a few more points that really force you to go a 5-6 ship list.

4 hours ago, Azrapse said:

It's amazing how marketing is able to mold the opinion of the fans, but not so long ago, the prequels were something Star Wars fans (or at least most of them), just didn't talk about.

Well one couldn't talk about the prequels. I've never hated them. But it became just a reflex action to prove your geek-cred to hate the prequels. One didn't talk about them because it would be like trying to talk to me about the sequels. You know what most people are going to say and anyone who might have enjoyed them is going to be furtive about it.

I tried to point out several of the things in the Darth Jar-Jar theory on coming out of the cinema after Episode I but everyone was just so so angry. It isn't "marketing" though that has made the prequels cool. The inadequacies of the sequels just made it safe to say you did not hate the prequels. Clone Wars animated is pretty cool stuff. Giving that a go has made many folks re-evaluate the prequels. You got kids who grew up with Clone Wars becoming/are grown up enough to stand up to those who would run them down for it.

Marketing just figured out there was actually a market for prequel era content. They didn't "invent" it.

It has been a bit interesting watching and reading stuff from the staunch prequels-suck crowd with the coming out of those who've enjoyed the prequels for awhile. I've seen several folks here and in the Armada forum who seem downright scared when they think any of the non-OT stuff is kind of cool or interesting. I get that vibe a lot from folks who run down Clone Wars animated. It is almost as if they can't let go of something. As though they didn't learn the lesson of the prequels.

It makes me wonder sometimes if the hatred of the prequels has a single thing to do with any of their cinematic short-comings and if prequels-haters see a lot more of themselves in Anakin's fall than they find comfortable. They are "terrible" because they hold a mirror up to a terrible and scary part of themselves.

On 10/14/2020 at 2:25 PM, Frimmel said:

It makes me wonder sometimes if the hatred of the prequels has a single thing to do with any of their cinematic short-comings and if prequels-haters see a lot more of themselves in Anakin's fall than they find comfortable. They are "terrible" because they hold a mirror up to a terrible and scary part of themselves.

That's ironic

e: for anyone wondering, I've said the exact same years ago, among others to Frimmel, about old man Luke. "Haters", as he calls them, see a lot more of themselves in bitter, discouraged, faithless Luke than they find comfortable. Luke got hit by the consequences of real life instead of riding a superpower fantasy. OT Luke is the young 20-something person full of hope. ST Luke is 50+, has seen his frailty and understands how much he failed throughout life. That holds up a mirror to a terrible and scary part of themselves.

1 hour ago, GreenDragoon said:

That's ironic

Care to elaborate on the source of the irony there? What did you find wryly amusing?

7 hours ago, Azrapse said:

This is aimed at FFG, so that they correct course.

It's amazing how marketing is able to mold the opinion of the fans, but not so long ago, the prequels were something Star Wars fans (or at least most of them), just didn't talk about. And all hopes were put on the sequels to be at least as good as the original trilogy.

And that's fine. Just don't pretend everyone to all of sudden get invested on the toys from some terrible movies, just because the newest ones are even worse.

In my local community, everyone quit X-wing after the focus shifted away from the OT factions to the sequels, then the prequels. Our local brick-and-mortar game store even dropped X-wing as a product.

You want the best for the game? Two choices:

• Tell everyone that expresses their discomfort with the current situation to shut up, and act like everything is going great. The "Titanic orchestra" solution.
• Give visibility to the problems so that FFG reacts.

First, the problem with this venue is ffg really isn’t watching what goes on here. It’s not serious visibility: the gunboat thread had to be how huge before they took notice? And even then, they didn’t act for a good while in first edition.

I don’t really know what marketing you’re talking about. I’ve never seen anything from Disney for the prequels (exception to final season of clone wars). Disney isn’t saying “look at the prequels!” And ffg sort of is, but only because it’s new factions they can sell ships for. However, if the era was not popular the ships wouldn’t sell. They still sell.

I have always been a prequel era fan. I admit the trilogy has issues, even bad issues, but the overall story it was trying to tell was excellent in my opinion.

Even without a sequel trilogy, if ffg had said “hey guys new prequel factions”, I’d have been all on board with the republic. I don’t need to compare to the sequel trilogy to want them.

I’m sorry to hear about your local game store. Ours has had the opposite effect with a resurgence of players since 2.0 came out. The only thing that hurt our scene was the beer bug. Our store championship happened right before our state locked down and we had 32 players turn out (which is huge when the last 1.0 tournament was maybe 5 or 6).

All factions are represented at our store.

I feel like there’s a third option not your two choices. I feel for OT only players. I get it’s not all good right now. But, ranting here doesn’t really accomplish much.

Here’s hoping we get more squadron packs to get you guys more pilots and toys.

1 hour ago, Frimmel said:

It makes me wonder sometimes if the hatred of the prequels has a single thing to do with any of their cinematic short-comings and if prequels-haters see a lot more of themselves in Anakin's fall than they find comfortable. They are "terrible" because they hold a mirror up to a terrible and scary part of themselves.

Personally regardless of whether someone's pt or st hate is valid or not they shouldn't bully people who enjoy it. I dont like the phantom menace (if I was 6 to 10 years younger I probably would have loved it). That didn't stop me from being okay with attack of the clones and really enjoying revenge of the Sith. I also don't put down younger people for liking it (they should like it the pt it was made for them).

I see it with the new cannon and eu as well. Theres nothing wrong with liking the old stuff more or preferring the new stuff.

Good morning everyone! Here come everyone's favorite reading format, BULLET POINTS!!!

• 8 hours ago, Azrapse said:

  @Cloaker isn't alone when having that stance towards the game.
  He just has put the effort of writing a post to give visibility to this sentiment some players have. Many others just remain silent or quit the game for good.

  My core friend X-Wing group before I started playing at FLGS and meeting awesome peeps; 1 quit entirely upon second edition due to imagined future expense; 1 keeps buying heavy into everything but plays only with me irregularly; 1 who I play weekly has a smattering of 1.0 factional builds, but mainly plays only rebels and empire; I also have been working on recruiting my brother in law (who has zero attention span and no disposable income), and another friend who enjoys the game (but doesn't want to invest loads of money into it right now.) who both like the OT factions though, not much interest in anything else. So we use my considerable OT collection to play. But my immediate circle is dwindling on life support--man I miss my community players at our FLGS! So yeah, I want new stuff to keep my internal fires burning at home.

• 9 hours ago, GreenDragoon said:

  The important part is as Ebak said: please don't try to bring down other people's excitement in other threads. That makes this place actively worse and I'm sure you don't want that.

  You're totally right Green, that really was never my intent. It's just to bring some light to how second edition has evolved since inception but seemingly left OT behind a bit, and how it is affecting me as a player. I do think that as someone who has spent (gasp) thousands, run local game nights and judged OP events. I've earned a little bit of leash to raise a flag. Do I think a bit too much innovation and models and pilots have been largely given to the PT factions, yes, but I understand it from a business standpoint. If I owned the game I'd probably do the same. But two years of atrophy in diversifying the OT factions (Especially with something so easy as card packs, 1 in two years isn't sufficient) it just is demoralizing somewhat. I'm not going to lie, Extreme Maneuvers just set me on tilt with the force user featurecreep. But it isn't about diminishing other people's excitement--it's doubtful PT faction players feel ANY letdown in enthusiasm right now--it's about putting some valid concern forward. Maybe there's a better way to bring that discussion about constructively, and assess why the designers are doing this right now. Show me the way, brother.

• 8 hours ago, Azrapse said:

  @Cloaker isn't alone when having that stance towards the game.
  He just has put the effort of writing a post to give visibility to this sentiment some players have. Many others just remain silent or quit the game for good.
  
  I don't think this post is aimed at the other members of the community, to bring them down. This is aimed at FFG, so that they correct course.

  It's amazing how marketing is able to mold the opinion of the fans...

  ^ Yeah this stuff! Just feed me some MARKETING of awesome exciting new products and gameplay evolution for MY factions, FFG! I'm the guy that also plays environment card and epic, so I got your back there! I am WAY too overexcited about the TIE Craig. It ticks all the boxes---fills a gap, new facet of play for faction (rotating cannon helps with focus fire) looks menacing AF, comes from a movie I loved, etc. I know it will probably be just an average ship competitively, but rest assured, I'm going to do everything I can to make that ship work.

• 2 hours ago, Frimmel said:

  Well one couldn't talk about the prequels. I've never hated them.

  You got kids who grew up with Clone Wars becoming/are grown up enough to stand up to those who would run them down for it.

  It has been a bit interesting watching and reading stuff from the staunch prequels-suck crowd with the coming out of those who've enjoyed the prequels for awhile.

  I really liked Revenge of the Sith. I'm almost done with Rebels, will probably watch Clone Wars after that, and I am looking forward to the streaming shows Disney will put out as well as any new films from any era. Loved KotOR, and am thrilled to think about the stories and worlds of the Old Republic. I won't buy into other factions in X-Wing for them, but I enjoy them. I just prefer to fly the factions and themes of what inspired me when I was a kid. Rogue One and Solo tapped into that obviously for me too.

• 8 hours ago, dezzmont said:

  For example... what about a hypothetical playmode that has been kicking about in my noodle for a bit to try to force X-wing lists to be less efficiency minded?

  You know what's hilarious is I love efficiency builds. But I am beginning to believe that Force Users and Networked Calculations mechanics are like, the newer form of efficiency. Apart from Scyk Swarm Autoblasters, I notice not many traditional efficiency options exist competitively right now for the OT factions in the way they do for the others. Rebel Synergy as a factional concept seems to be really struggling to evolve as contenders this year. So many opposing 5+ ship lists just melt them down, and we don't want Rebel Regen returning, so I don't know. One of my community friends is big on Luke and Leia in rebel builds because of the force. I think I might start there.

• 15 hours ago, Ebak said:

  Sure, I get all that. Listen, I made a mistake with that post. I had a knee-jerk reaction and as I've mentioned before, I regret what I posted and I didn't want to delete it because...it just hides the mistake.

  I truly get you want new stuff. My main faction is Rebels. Has been and always will be. A-Wings are my bread and butter and yet all we have are two named pilots. I am not deaf to your problem.

  I may not agree with you all the time, same with Dez, Gauc, Meanie, pretty much anyone on the forum because we all agree and disagree on various topics, but that doesn't mean I dislike you. I expect people to dislike me, that's just how I am I go between self loathing, self righteous, and all kinds of spectrums in between when trying to put my thoughts to 'paper' regarding any issues.

  I don't know if what I said above makes sense, sounds right, sounds nice, sounds non-gatekeepery or not. All I can say is, it's what I think.

  Let's look forward to a hopefully bright future.

  I don't know what I am trying to say. The only thing I think that matters right about now speaking personally: I'm sorry.

  You're all good brother, the day we all lose our passion for the game and are unwilling to have dialogue on how it can grow or improve would be a dark day. I am sure FFG will save the day here--they have to know it's a valid concern, even if they don't read forums. Thanks for the PM. I am excited for the squadron packs, cautiously, hopefully that somewhat came across in my first and original post that set this crazy train into motion. I do think there are solutions out there to help OTs--and I think I am going to put out a new, positive post on it just to show I can dream big dreams

cheers everyone, thanks for the reads and feels

On 10/13/2020 at 4:16 AM, Azrapse said:

It doesn't make any sense that Republic and Rebels would coexist as a faction in the lore. Neither Empire or Separatists.
The Empire is the evolution of the Republic, who fought the Separatists. Why would the Empire ally with the Separatists. We even see them in SW: Rebels systematically wiping out pouches of Separatists survivors, while being relatively cordial to clone remnants. The Republic turns into the Empire literally in an instant, during a speech in the Senate.
The Rebels have more in common with the Separatists, since they fight against the same dude: Palpatine.

You're overcomplicating things.

The 3 Jedi factions go together and the 3 opposite factions go together.

23 hours ago, Hippie Moosen said:

Where to put the Republic and the CIS though becomes messy. The Republic seems to fit better as an ally to the Empire than the Separatists do, but neither of those options don't really make complete sense due to how the Republic was twisted into the Empire, and the CIS being at war with the Republic meaning they probably wouldn't like the Empire either. Sticking either side with the Rebels doesn't really work either for similar reasons, what with the CIS being kinda evil and the Republic turning into the Rebels primary enemy.

Obi-wan flies with Luke flies with Rey. Dooku flies with Vader flies with Kylo.

It's not about political science. It's about inherited will.

We could, y'know, git gud?

23 hours ago, Cloaker said:

If this is the eventual evolution of the game in its current design iteration, that a certain contingent of players must simply be worn down into submission to go into factions they aren't interested in playing, it will NOT end well. The game and local scenes will silently bleed out underneath a swollen mound of calculate and force tokens. Chassis and pilots and abilities do not need to be carbon copied for balance, but if we get to a point where the passionate fan's chosen era is dwarfed optionally by the featurecreep of the prequels, many players will abandon ship(s), literally. Those players, those factions, need to always be treated with the same level of consideration as the rest. The game is not called ETA-2 Actis; TMG. Because at some point, whether we admit it or not, the IP thematicaly will always boil down to classic x-wing vs tie fighter viability, with options and features every bit as robust as any other option available.

See also; Squadrons, Star Wars.

Listen, I get you, but these things are temporary. I'm just finding other things to enjoy. This last year has taught me that you may partake in things you love, but circumstances may dictate that you need to do it with a different flavor at times. That is not a bad thing.

As for Squadrons, look - I'd love a different era but they HAD to pick the OT for marketing reasons. ST+$40+Current state would have failed and they knew it. Sadly.

18 hours ago, Cloaker said:

Of course you've reached that point with me. Quit talking to my wife! But seriously dude, viewpoints that dare to debate outside your self imagined role as a gatekeeper of the game (and obviously the forums) have a tendency to trigger you, it's obvious when you endeavor to create an entire thread as a counterpoint to That Which You Do Not Agree With/Approve of.

But look, brother, that's totally cool. Debate is good. Venting perspectives is a legitimate sentiment, for both of us, right? It's unfortunate that you're tired of dialogue that you don't agree with, because usually that's the place where progress and understanding meet. But looking to make sophomoric, friction-inducing "predictions" of another forum poster and ramble and rant against Dez and Guac and me and your self declared need to enlist Jarval to keep you reasonable, well look man, to use your own logic in your own words;

"I'd prefer you to directly call me an idiot if you think that's the case than make some snarky remark"- Ebak 2020

But you know what, I ain't gonna do that. Cause, like, I actually dig some of your posts. You provoke some good ideas. Yeah, you go off the rails a bit sometimes with some self-righteousness, but we all do, that's part of being a passionate gamer and interacting with the online community. Man, I'm hurting as a OT player in the game I love right now, admittedly. I want shiny new things. I want a world of cool fresh options and pilots--with second edition release and hyperspace validation---not just for me, but for........ (cue Gary Oldman Professional Voice)

So I get it. My frustration and despair, I've been a bit public with. It ain't pretty to look at and deal with. It's coming from a good place, I promise. I just, I don't know.... need to vent a little. Ok, a lot. But don't subversively seek to run me out of the game. Don't tell me to take a break. We don't want to have to tell prospective new players that only want to play hyperspace OT stuff that, do we? To take a break? That's actually usually when most relationships start to end. And personally, I am too ******* far down into this pew pew rabbit hole to give up yet. I just need....

That's all I got. Peace out

Ebak is right, **** dude I've been there you DO need to step away. I'd say go outside but COVID. Take your wife out to Burger King, bring a tablet and watch netflix with her in the parking lot, they have a great 3-for-3 deal right now if you're short on cash or something. It's what me and my woman do to go chill out..!

Really, you need to step away. I was gone for like, what, four or five months? Did me a world of good. This game isn't giving you what you want or need right now and yes, that is a problem, but instead of screaming at it to do so... Just wait. Wait a while.

I still want stuff for The Resistance, but I realized I ain't getting it any time soon. So, I said "Alright well, what else we got here?" - believe you me, very little about the new Resistance pack makes me happy. I'm not sure what if anything about it actually does. But the LAAT/i, ETA-2 and V-Wing make me happy. The TIE/RB makes me genuine consider Imperials.

Be open.

And just... Look, man. With-a-lover to with-a-lover here.

Go spend some more time with her. Put away the forums, plastic, etc. I'm not saying you don't love your wife or spend enough time with her. Not at all. But doing literally anything with her, right now, will be far more productive than sitting around here and shouting at a corporation to care about you or what you want.

Do what I do. Set it all down, tell her you love her, give her a kiss wherever you feel is prudent to do so, take her out somewhere. This hour to half an hour of time can be better spent.

Whatever you do, do things you love. Not things you hate.

Please take care, Cloaker. Tell the Mrs. your friendly neighborhood lesbian says hello and that her husband's a pretty cool guy.

4 hours ago, Frimmel said:

You got kids who grew up with Clone Wars becoming/are grown up enough to stand up to those who would run them down for it.

I'm one of those kids, or rather I was. Late 20's doesn't really count as a kid in my book. I was 7 when Episode 1 hit theaters. My dad decided to show me the entire OT before it's release, and then we caught a show opening weekend. Lots of personal junk tied up in that string of events that I won't go into, but suffice to say I was the right age to fall in love with the Prequels and happily consider them a part of the Star Wars Saga.

As a child, the Prequels were awesome, and while I eventually didn't really care for Jar Jar (teenagers can't deal with something that goofy) on the whole I still enjoyed them. Now I struggle a bit to get through Attack of the Clones, but Phantom Menace and Revenge of the Sith are still very watchable for me even though I can see the cracks in their foundations. I've developed an appreciation for them all, even 2 and Jar Jar. The old Clone Wars shorts and the animated series are some of my favorite Star Wars anything now too. As a person who has a casual interest in film studies (took one course on it in school and watch a lot of stuff on it online for fun), the Prequels do rank mostly lower than the OT for me in the more nuts and bolts aspects of film, but just from pure nostalgia I can't help but enjoy them overall, on the same level as the OT films in most cases.

The Prequels aren't perfect, but they aren't sacrilege either. While I do have loads of issues with the Sequels (more than I ever had with the Prequels tbh), I won't say there's nothing in them to love. I honestly expect that soon there are gonna be people younger than me, who's feelings on the Sequels will mirror my own on the Prequels, because that's what hooked them on this universe. History repeats, or as George put it, "It's like poetry, it rhymes."

Breaks from games are not a bad thing. Sometimes they are needed.

20 minutes ago, Hippie Moosen said:

I'm one of those kids, or rather I was. Late 20's doesn't really count as a kid in my book. I was 7 when Episode 1 hit theaters. My dad decided to show me the entire OT before it's release, and then we caught a show opening weekend. Lots of personal junk tied up in that string of events that I won't go into, but suffice to say I was the right age to fall in love with the Prequels and happily consider them a part of the Star Wars Saga.

Phantom Menace hit the theaters when I was a newly-single dad of three kids ages 11-14. I was 16 when A New Hope first came out, and I was excited to share the new episodes with my spawn. My memories of the prequels are tied up in that bonding experience and, frankly, I have only good feelings about them. FWIW.

I owe my current interest in X-Wing to my eldest daughter who gifted me with a bunch of surplus 1.0 gear when they had to shut down their FLGS. I'd like to think I raised 'em right. 😎🍺

1 hour ago, KCDodger said:

Take your wife out to Burger King, bring a tablet and watch netflix with her in the parking lot, they have a great 3-for-3 deal right now if you're short on cash or something. It's what me and my woman do to go chill out..!

And just... Look, man. With-a-lover to with-a-lover here.

Go spend some more time with her. Put away the forums, plastic, etc. I'm not saying you don't love your wife or spend enough time with her. Not at all. But doing literally anything with her, right now, will be far more productive than sitting around here and shouting at a corporation to care about you or what you want.

Do what I do. Set it all down, tell her you love her, give her a kiss wherever you feel is prudent to do so, take her out somewhere. This hour to half an hour of time can be better spent.

Please take care, Cloaker. Tell the Mrs. your friendly neighborhood lesbian says hello and that her husband's a pretty cool guy.

But KC, her and I just finished binging Schitt's Creek and Fargo and I've been running 2-3 D&D 5e campaigns with her and a few other women and a couple of guys for the last year and a half... I wanna play mah crackwing!!!!!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

I WANNA PEW PEW WITH MAH CREW

seriously, you're awesome, thankya kindly

3 hours ago, Cloaker said:

But KC, her and I just finished binging Schitt's Creek and Fargo and I've been running 2-3 D&D 5e campaigns with her and a few other women and a couple of guys for the last year and a half... I wanna play mah crackwing!!!!!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

I WANNA PEW PEW WITH MAH CREW

seriously, you're awesome, thankya kindly

Oh s**t you play DnD with your woman too eh? Glad to hear that!

And any time dude. I've learned by now when it's time to sit back and go, "Maybe not." y'know?

There's a huge difference between loving the world building in the PT, the design and all that is Republic v Separatists...loving Clone Wars and the other expanded materials...

And loving the movies.

There's talk in here like "all these people pretending the PT is good and super loved." I haven't seen that at all. For people to love the pure Star Wars awesomeness in the era, that's fine. It's a great sandbox, just some believe the movies were poorly executed. I like all three trilogies for different reasons, with two movies truly not getting much attention anymore out of them all.

There is some feature creep with new releases, and I am very open that I'm primarily a FO and Sep player, but I still wish I had the array of options that Imperials have. Rebels could use a bit of love right now in list building shenanigans, but it feels pretty close to fun still. Some card packs, some new upgrades and I'm perfectly content with the OT factions.

I actually think FFG has done a great job of not letting new features drive OT factions out of the meta. Points adjustments would bring Rebels back into the game as well, but they faction identity is a bit bleh to me.

So yea, I understand OT players wanting new content for sure! But there is a ton of content there still, Imps are getting a new ship and options for across the TIE universe, and I don't think the sky is falling yet. The squadron packs will hopefully help both factions out.

7 hours ago, Sithborg said:

Breaks from games are not a bad thing. Sometimes they are needed.

I wish I played often enough to need a break. 😥

I accidentally made a hyperspace squad... just realized it! .... So now I’m looking to trash people in hyperspace, cuz BEEN TRASHIN FOOS IN EXTENDED WITH IT YO!

Regarding Crackwing, TTS is a bit like Voldemort drinking unicorn blood.... sustained me on the brink of death, but it’s a cursed life I now live, Harry... a half-life....

But just wanted to say Hi 👋 not really on topic.

New galaxies, new scum lists that did well:

Palob Godalhi + Elusive + Seismic Charges + Moldy Crow
Captain Seevor
Cartel Spacer + Autoblasters
Cartel Spacer + Autoblasters
Cartel Spacer + Tractor Beam
Binayre Pirate

And even stranger

G4R-G0R V/M
Captain Jostero + Deadman's Switch
Constable Zuvio + Proximity Mines + Contraband Cybernetics
Torani Kulda + Cluster Missiles + R5-TK + Contraband Cybernetics + Munitions Failsafe
Lando Calrissian + Tactical Officer

Jostero, Zuvio, Lando?!

Aren't these lists scummy enough?

22 minutes ago, GreenDragoon said:

G4R-G0R V/M

Captain Jostero + Deadman's Switch
Constable Zuvio + Proximity Mines + Contraband Cybernetics
Torani Kulda + Cluster Missiles + R5-TK + Contraband Cybernetics + Munitions Failsafe
Lando Calrissian + Tactical Officer

This is the way. Such a cool list.

18 hours ago, GreenDragoon said:

Palob Godalhi + Elusive + Seismic Charges + Moldy Crow
Captain Seevor
Cartel Spacer + Autoblasters
Cartel Spacer + Autoblasters
Cartel Spacer + Tractor Beam
Binayre Pirate

Meh. But in stark contrast...

18 hours ago, GreenDragoon said:

G4R-G0R V/M
Captain Jostero + Deadman's Switch
Constable Zuvio + Proximity Mines + Contraband Cybernetics
Torani Kulda + Cluster Missiles + R5-TK + Contraband Cybernetics + Munitions Failsafe
Lando Calrissian + Tactical Officer

...frell yes.

@MidWestScrub flew against this, and said it was the Scummiest thing he's seen for awhile.