JeLAATo (Hyperspace Republic)

By Spinland, in X-Wing Squad Lists

First (very) rough stab at two named Jedi plus a LAAT. Hyperspace, so no Ani.

"Warthog" (54)
Multi-Missile Pods (8)
Ghost Company (5)
Perceptive Copilot (8)
Seventh Fleet Gunner (9)

Ship total: 84 Half Points: 42 Threshold: 5

Obi-Wan Kenobi (49)
Heightened Perception (3)
R4-P17 (5)
Calibrated Laser Targeting (4)

Ship total: 61 Half Points: 31 Threshold: 2

Plo Koon (45)
Heightened Perception (3)
R4-P Astromech (2)
Calibrated Laser Targeting (4)

Ship total: 54 Half Points: 27 Threshold: 2

Total: 199

Even newer than usual at Jedi builds so not sure what the "standard" kit is for Obi and Plo. I started with everybody naked, added some stuff to the Jedis until I ran out of slots, then filled the LAAT with the remaining points. Aside from a basic Torrent there wasn't a 4th ship that seemed to work as a filler for the mid-20-ish points I had left over, so I know the LAAT is kind of a juicy target. Still, this is a rough first cut at the idea.

Thoughts?

So, @Boom Owl posted a very excellent version of this list type in another thread. I klepped it to add here because it's topical and I think answers most all of my questions about the concept. Also, I didn't realize N-1 Ani was Hyperspace legal.

212th Battalion Pilot (51)
Seventh Fleet Gunner (9)

Ship total: 60 Half Points: 30 Threshold: 5

Obi-Wan Kenobi (49)
Calibrated Laser Targeting (4)

Ship total: 53 Half Points: 27 Threshold: 2

Luminara Unduli (43)
Calibrated Laser Targeting (3)

Ship total: 46 Half Points: 23 Threshold: 2

Anakin Skywalker (N-1 Starfighter) (41)
Ship total: 41 Half Points: 21 Threshold: 3

Total: 200

Yea always bring more ships and fewer upgrades in Hyperspace. Unless your running Boba than dwywm with the upgrades it doesnt matter. They let you bring Trip Ace + Laat, dont pile on upgrades until its not possible again. Literally all the Laat needs is 7th to support aces. For supporting squads of more ships you can start to look at other upgrades but still keep a light touch.

Rule #1 of good hyper squad building, bring the minimum # of upgrades per ship for them to still be useful. That often means dont bring any at all.

Standard kits for Obi, Plo, and any CLT jedi is just CLT. They already have piles of mechanics baked in between force, FTC, CLT, pilot abilities, LAAT rerolls, and 7th gunner. No upgrades required.

For the LAAT avoid the temptation to pile on more than 1 upgrade. It does not need them and you want more ships (even in the Ace centric lists, you want a 3rd "Ace").

Edited by Boom Owl

Been thinking 7FG LAAT plus Jedi ofc. Trying to decide between Warthog, Plo and 2x Foresight Knights or 212th, Lumi and.... Barris!

Plo is a staple for me.

Seems light. But I'll hopefully have a couple games this week, one with Jedi and one with Wolffe, Broadside/moar ARCs. Beef feels safer tbh, but I've put so many lists through the builder and so many ships on my table, while missing my last 2 game nights with a cold, that I'm beginning to lose all perspective. May end up tipping a random assortment out of the bag and seeing what lands on its base :D

Edited by Cuz05

I have yet to try it but I thought of the following recently:

- 212th Battalion Pilot (Seventh Fleet Gunner)
- Ahsoka Tano (CLT)
- Barriss Offee (CLT)
- Obi-Wan kenobi (CLT)
200 points

So variation on the same theme, and very simple, but I think it has potential and the rarely seen/played Barriss could be useful/work here.

Edited by admat

I posted elsewhere, perhaps erroneously, on my 1 experience with 7FG LAAT plus Jedi x3. There are a bunch of configurations you can put together but 7FG plus CLT x3 seems like a really good core and is maybe not wrong in any fashion.

Barris could be well worth it for the I4 alone. The extra action from Ahsoka could help keep the rotate active for that crucial arc coverage. Making room for Obi can't possibly be bad.

Edited by Cuz05

Warthog: Wolfpack, Ghost Company plus four Blue Squadron Protectors: Dedicated, Synchronized Console, Concussion Missiles.

Simple, with a lot of pain and beefy.

1 hour ago, Schanez said:

Warthog: Wolfpack, Ghost Company plus four Blue Squadron Protectors: Dedicated, Synchronized Console, Concussion Missiles.

Simple, with a lot of pain and beefy.

Trying to get me to buy that second Republic starter pack, are ya? 😎 🍺

Edited by Spinland
48 minutes ago, Spinland said:

Trying to get me to buy that second Republic starter pack, are ya? 😎 🍺

You haven't flown Torrents till you've slapped four on a table.

44 minutes ago, Pa Weasley said:

You haven't flown Torrents till you've slapped four on a table.

Correct. I own 2 and I haven't flown them 🤣

Quad Torrents and Ahsoka has been my go to list for some time. I've been wanting to try out try them out with WartPack but the LAAT expansion has given me too many list ideas to try.

19 hours ago, Pa Weasley said:

You haven't flown Torrents till you've slapped four on a table.

Last two seasons I've rocked the local tables with a Ric + Broadside + 104 + 104 + GSP composition that maintained 70%+ win ratio. Filler-torrent is vastly underappreciated.

Which brings me to this - Ace-Ace-LAAT migh be lacking on some grounds, but squeezing in a Dedicated BSP alongside either 7FG or Cody+Ghost Company Warthog creates a solid support backbone for the aces and leaves them as much as 111 points to play with.

Just saying.

On 10/9/2020 at 4:07 PM, Ryfterek said:

Which brings me to this - Ace-Ace-LAAT migh be lacking on some grounds, but squeezing in a Dedicated BSP alongside either 7FG or Cody+Ghost Company Warthog creates a solid support backbone for the aces and leaves them as much as 111 points to play with.

Just saying.

Interesting.... I'm rethinking a little bit and may have a look.

Despite a rough couple games against a Malarus swarm tonight, I still have some faith in the LAAT plus 3 Jedi. I'm not sure Warthog plus Knights is a useful answer in a swarmy meta. Warthogs R2 buff is kinda wasted, maybe more worth putting the 2pt into the Jedi section... but matching Init is a good thing anyway.