Tie Heavy: Craig Fan Club: X-Wing is Serious Business

By Boom Owl, in X-Wing

3 hours ago, theBitterFig said:

Almost impossible to defeat in 75 minutes, that'd be 56 hull, potentially with Reinforce.

I have always wondered, what do you do when you run out of damage cards??

3 hours ago, 5050Saint said:

They have Angled Deflectors build in. It had 1 shield, but then they hard baked the upgrade in, giving 0 shields.

It's almost like they have half of 1 shield...like a backup generator.

1 hour ago, Gupa-nupa said:

I have always wondered, what do you do when you run out of damage cards??

Shuffle them back in from destroyed ships, I believe.

It's basically impossible in a normal 200/6 game, even though hull can exceed damage cards.

I am on the train, that the ship will be priced with the configs included and the configs will be 0 points. Both seem like in the 6-8 points value area. And I really don't think we want more than 5 Tie/RB on the board at any given time. That's just too much health to chew through.

Given double tapping Braylen and Ten can maybe burn them down fast enough, but... Imagine a 5 RZ-2 A-Wing vs 7 Tie/RB fight. Just endless two dice exchanges between a list hiding behind 3 Agility and another behind tons of Hull. I would hate to play that...

For me the Tie/RB seems like a filler ship for an Ace squad, especially the I4 guy who can make Vader or Soontir that much more dangerous.

I don't see how the configs can be the same cost and both see significant play. Targeting assist seems like the better value at the same cost in most cases.

32 minutes ago, dsul413 said:

I don't see how the configs can be the same cost and both see significant play. Targeting assist seems like the better value at the same cost in most cases.

Completely agree.

Now that I have tested both configs I can see specific roles developing for No Config, Movement Config, and Aimbot.

The configs are not strictly necessary for the Brute to be useful with Sync which is great to see.

The white barrel roll though is really nice for resetting first engagements and keeping various banks open or options that dont bonk your own list.

Either way itll be Just Sync to save max points, Movement Config to save a couple points, and Aimbot if they let you.

Just now, Boom Owl said:

Completely agree.

Now that I have tested both configs I can see specific roles developing for No Config, Movement Config, and Aimbot.

The configs are not strictly necessary for the Brute to be useful with Sync which is great to see.

The white barrel roll though is really nice for resetting first engagements and keeping various banks open or options that dont bonk your own list.

Either way itll be Just Sync to save max points, Movement Config to save a couple points, and Aimbot if they let you.

I for one just want to let you know I appreciate the use of "aimbot" for targeting assist, and shall not refer to it as otherwise moving forward.

I feel like the Maneuver Assist will be amazing at the I4 pilot. Making his desired maneuvers blue is big. He wants to be up close. Considering the Rotate > Red Calculate, it might want more opportunities to shed Stress.

I do agree, that Target Assist seems more powerful, especially if it will have a sensor slot. But then again, if you can properly control range of engagement. It does nothing with enemies in R1.

I would value both as equally good. That white Roll > Red Calculate is amazing truth be told. And the Rotate > Calculate as well nothing to sneeze at.

I suspect that the chasis will be overpriced and the configs underpriced or free to 'push' this with configs, which helpfully avoids the possibility of spamming these without reducing its power. The Brute could even get the Maneuver Assist as a 0 point option and aimbot as an option that costs points.

This allows them to not come in cheaper than a bomber or Y-wing, and in fact come out more expensive, yet still have them be attractive to people put off by the medium base. It effectively would just be a stronger dial or chasis ability for you to choose from to make it 'catch up' to its cost and prevent this from 'stepping on' beef ships by forcing you to consider a utility option.

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Still don’t know who “Craig” is, but interesting analysis.

2 hours ago, Cpt ObVus said:

Still don’t know who “Craig” is, but interesting analysis.

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I´´ m quite sure your inside joke of a space gorilla called Craig was understood by... no one here 😃

I think the TIE Brute will suffer from same problems as Punishers: they will melt very quickly, especially with crits.

14 hours ago, Cpt ObVus said:

Still don’t know who “Craig” is, but interesting analysis.

3 hours ago, Pretty Green said:

I´´ m quite sure your inside joke of a space gorilla called Craig was understood by... no one here 😃

I think the TIE Brute will suffer from same problems as Punishers: they will melt very quickly, especially with crits.

It's a meme spawned from the Halo Infinite gameplay preview. Some twitter decided to call this goofy looking Brute as Craig and lots of people just ran with it.

I'd think there'd be a decent enough overlap of miniature gamers + video gamers + meme enjoyers.

On 9/20/2020 at 3:12 AM, Bucknife said:

Shuffle them back in from destroyed ships, I believe.

It's basically impossible in a normal 200/6 game, even though hull can exceed damage cards.

If you can field 6 tie brute is possible to exeed this, probably just FAQ it to use any other indicator for damage thoigh as you cant use the loophole of havi g exhausted the damage deck while not losing a ship to not tKe damage, it would almost be an alternative win condition strategy

25 minutes ago, Scum4Life said:

If you can field 6 tie brute is possible to exeed this, probably just FAQ it to use any other indicator for damage thoigh as you cant use the loophole of havi g exhausted the damage deck while not losing a ship to not tKe damage, it would almost be an alternative win condition strategy

This would only work if there's nothing in the game that can expose a face-down damage card, though, right?

2 hours ago, CaptainJaguarShark said:

This would only work if there's nothing in the game that can expose a face-down damage card, though, right?

Mmm, correct, though you could swap a token for a card on another ship and expose it. Or expose a pre existing card a d add a token if suffereing a crit.

I think it will be hard enough getting 6-7 damage on 5-6 ships without losing one, but somone will have to give it a go.

2 hours ago, Scum4Life said:

Mmm, correct, though you could swap a token for a card on another ship and expose it. Or expose a pre existing card a d add a token if suffereing a crit.

I think it will be hard enough getting 6-7 damage on 5-6 ships without losing one, but somone will have to give it a go.

Also, I haven't gotten the epic stuff, how is that handled there when you've got a ton of ships?

3 hours ago, CaptainJaguarShark said:

Also, I haven't gotten the epic stuff, how is that handled there when you've got a ton of ships?

We just put destroyed ships cards back in the deck. There's quite a quick turnover....

Synced Laser Cannons are 6 points, which I totally called! *little brag over* Which means, that Generics with this upgrade might be fun.

2 hours ago, Schanez said:

Synced Laser Cannons are 6 points, which I totally called! *little brag over* Which means, that Generics with this upgrade might be fun.

Depends on the cost of the generics though.. at Arc-170 prices, I am afraid not.

I doubt this will be 42, even with baked in configs. I think it is going to hit a sweet spot between the Y wing and an Arc.

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つ ◕◕ ༽つ :Craig:SUMMON CRAIG :Craig: ༼ つ ◕◕ ༽つ

19 hours ago, Boom Owl said:

つ ◕◕ ༽つ :Craig:SUMMON CRAIG :Craig: ༼ つ ◕◕ ༽つ

First.. apparently, not till halloween, and and I vehemently refuse this craig nonsense. I maintain it should be the TIE Fezzik.

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6 hours ago, Schanez said:

Synced Laser Cannons are 6 points, which I totally called! *little brag over* Which means, that Generics with this upgrade might be fun.

Been messing around with putting them on named B-Wings. Might try some generics instead to free up points for the rest of the list. Hmm.

6 hours ago, Boom Owl said:

つ ◕◕ ༽つ :Craig:SUMMON CRAIG :Craig: ༼ つ ◕◕ ༽つ

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