I've been messing around with missile Torrents (for casual play) since release, but haven't found much I liked . My latest iteration is:

Ahsoka Tano (44)
Battle Meditation (4)
R4-P44 (3)
Delta-7B (15)
Synchronized Console (1)

Ship total: 67 Half Points: 34 Threshold: 3

4x Blue Squadron Protector (26)
Crack Shot (2)
Cluster Missiles (4)
Synchronized Console (1)

Ship total: 33 Half Points: 17 Threshold: 3
Total: 199

Do you think it would be worth dropping a V-19 and bumping Ahsoka up to Obi-wan? Recycling focus would be nice, but I kinda like everything at the same PS. Other thoughts or ideas would be appreciated.

At the highest initiative being Init 3, I don't think you'll ever reasonably get Locks, even though Ahsoka is triple-invested in sharing locks, between SynCon, Battle Meditation, and her own pilot ability. Just getting higher initiative and trusting a single tool like SynCon is probably enough.

I think I'd go with:

• Plo Koon (7B, SynCon) 67
• Blue Protector (Dedicated, Homing Missiles, SynCon) 33
• Blue Protector (Dedicated, Homing Missiles, SynCon) 33
• Blue Protector (Dedicated, Homing Missiles, SynCon) 33
• Blue Protector (Dedicated, Homing Missiles, SynCon) 33

Plo locks and passes it on. Everyone else slings in a Homing Missile. I think Dedicated might actually be the key. With a focus and Dedicated, it'll be hard for an opponent to burn down the Blue with a lock. If they target Plo instead, the Blues protect him instead.

There's also an argument for using Obi-Wan instead of Plo, but dropping everyone to Ion Missiles. You could even upgrade one Torrent to Oddball, to make it a bit easier to grab locks (say... I think that's @ClassicalMoser 's proposed version, or something like it).

I don't think it'll be that good, but it's got a good vibe of a Jedi leading a bunch of Clones, so might be fun. Ultimately, Massed Missile Torrents seem like they can kinda become 3-red ships, but compared to other ships like Strikers or Ion Scyks, they're too much hassle for any extra value they provide.

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That said, Oddball with a Missile seems like a great filler piece in just about any Republic squad, particularly if you've invested in SynCon. Even without fiddly synergies, SynCon seems like a practical bit of action efficiency, at a low price for a squad. The 34-38 points for an Oddball seems solid, if someone can't afford 41 for ICT Broadside or CLT Barriss.

Personally, I've had a decent bit of fun and success with a similar list prior to the the most recent point adjustment. The differences being homing missiles, dedicated, and Ahsoka with R4 and no force power. It took some practice but it's possible to get a bit savy about who to throw the lock on to start the missile cascade. With Ahsoka's ability more often that not all the Torrents had focus tokens making for some hard choices for three green dice ships.

I like adding battle meditation to this list but haven't had the opportunity to trying against an actual real person. Probably will this week. The extra range gives Ahsoka breathing room which is a plus in and if itself. Coordinating a lock to two Torrents ups the possibility of at least one of those targets being in arc and range of two or more Torrents. The draw back is that Ahsoka runs the risk of being force starved for a turn.

@theBitterFig is absolutely correct that dedicated is key for a squad like this. As long as the gods of variance haven't been angered it does a phenomenal job keeping ships on the table longer than they have any right to be.

So my squad for 198 points would be ...

Ahsoka: battle meditation, delta 7B, R4-P, synch console - 66 points

4x BSP: dedicated, homing missiles, synch console - 33 points each

And as an added flavor bonus every slot is used and the only generic card is homing missiles.

3 hours ago, theBitterFig said:

say... I think that's @ClassicalMoser 's proposed version, or something like it

Yep, pretty close. Except I had Concussions on all and dropped Obi-Wan to CLT but gave him R5, leaving room for HP or a bid.

18 minutes ago, ClassicalMoser said:

Yep, pretty close. Except I had Concussions on all and dropped Obi-Wan to CLT but gave him R5, leaving room for HP or a bid.

Yes, of course... I recall yours was Hyperspace, so no 7B.

I kinda like the thought of trying to use SynCon on the Jedi in the list, too... it's cheap, and adds a second way to get locks into the group, which might be pretty handy. Making sure you're able to use the missiles you've invested so many points in just seems important... It'd lose HP access, but cutting CLT for Foresight could work...

2 minutes ago, theBitterFig said:

Making sure you're able to use the missiles you've invested so many points in just seems important... It'd lose HP access, but cutting CLT for Foresight could work...

Actually that's not a bad idea; having two I5s might make it work better, especially if Odd Ball goes down.

Dropping CLT on Obi-Wan always seems like a bad idea to me though since the synergy is immense and his bullseye is so easy to get. Also I wonder if chasing locks to support your torrents might be a trap for him. He can't overcommit or he dies too easily; he needs to be able to bugger out for some regen or just to avoid a sever case of lasers to the face.

My problem with list-building is I almost always do it in a vacuum, not thinking about potential opponents. For example, this squad would be horrendous against a vulture swarm, since it focuses on punching one thing very hard, and vultures don't really care if you kill one or two of them on the opening engage. With TA-175 they almost prefer it. And then you think of RZ-2s and it's kind of unlikely you'd get enough arcs on one to take it out in the first round. Odd Ball vs Kylo might be an interesting match and trading up could be a possibility here, or just leave him for Obi-Wan to play with while you go for the wingmen. But then a Vader/Soontir squad would just be a nightmare...

Y'all are sleeping on prockets.

4 bullseyes are bound to hit something, and you save points since you don't need target lock shenanigans

Obi-Wan Kenobi (49)

Calibrated Laser Targeting (4)

Ship total: 53 Half Points: 27 Threshold: 2

Blue Squadron Protector (26)

Dedicated (1)

Proton Rockets (6)

Ship total: 33 Half Points: 17 Threshold: 3

Blue Squadron Protector (26)

Dedicated (1)

Proton Rockets (6)

Ship total: 33 Half Points: 17 Threshold: 3

Blue Squadron Protector (26)

Dedicated (1)

Proton Rockets (6)

Ship total: 33 Half Points: 17 Threshold: 3

Blue Squadron Protector (26)

Dedicated (1)

Proton Rockets (6)

Ship total: 33 Half Points: 17 Threshold: 3

Total: 185

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Obi wan is really good on his own, and he can synergize with the torrents so they can keep their focus.

This list has 15 points free, so you can do whatever you want, really.

Chopper, R5, Foresight, even some hull upgrades on torrents if you want. I've flown procket torrents before, and they really make opponents think twice about engaging even just one of them.

Not as numerous, but I did toy with Pricket torrents as well right after I got my republic stuff. Haven't tried it since then, but Roller's more bullseyes is probably better than the repositioning I was going for:

GR. 2 Jedi +blue Gambit

(62) Anakin Skywalker [Delta-7 Aethersprite]
(5) Calibrated Laser Targeting
(10) Battle Meditation
Points: 77

(26) Blue Squadron Protector [V-19 Torrent Starfighter]
(6) Proton Rockets
(4) Debris Gambit
Points: 36

(26) Blue Squadron Protector [V-19 Torrent Starfighter]
(6) Proton Rockets
(4) Debris Gambit
Points: 36

(37) Jedi Knight [Delta-7 Aethersprite]
(2) Calibrated Laser Targeting
(4) Foresight
Points: 43

Total points: 192

The idea is obviously to charge in with the Blues Focusing and block with the Knight while Anakin hangs back from the initial engage and uses his i6 Meditation to grant the blues a last second Roll>Evade to align the bullseye or lock if the priority target ended up there already. I'd say it was moderately successful, but there's very little follow up if I couldn't take the lead in that first round of combat and sometimes I would lose a blue before firing rockets even with the Evade in play.

Obi-Wan Kenobi (49)
Battle Meditation (8)
Calibrated Laser Targeting (4)

Ship total: 61 Half Points: 31 Threshold: 2

Blue Squadron Protector (26)
Dedicated (1)
Concussion Missiles (6)

Ship total: 33 Half Points: 17 Threshold: 3

Blue Squadron Protector (26)
Dedicated (1)
Concussion Missiles (6)

Ship total: 33 Half Points: 17 Threshold: 3

Blue Squadron Protector (26)
Dedicated (1)
Concussion Missiles (6)

Ship total: 33 Half Points: 17 Threshold: 3

Blue Squadron Protector (26)
Dedicated (1)
Concussion Missiles (6)

Ship total: 33 Half Points: 17 Threshold: 3


Total: 193

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