H ey,

I just thought about using Ember since it had a great points reduction and I came up with this list. I wished I could give a Juke to Ember, but I think 5 ships with Kylo in it is more valuable.

"Ember" (48)
Ship total: 48 Half Points: 24 Threshold: 2

Kylo Ren (76)
Ship total: 76 Half Points: 38 Threshold: 3

Epsilon Squadron Cadet (25)
Ship total: 25 Half Points: 13 Threshold: 2

Epsilon Squadron Cadet (25)
Ship total: 25 Half Points: 13 Threshold: 2

Epsilon Squadron Cadet (25)
Ship total: 25 Half Points: 13 Threshold: 2


Total: 199

View in Yet Another Squad Builder 2.0: https://raithos.github.io/?f=First Order&d=v8ZsZ200Z383XWWWY236XWWWY269XWY269XWY269XW&sn=Unsaved Squadron&obs=

It's a fun list but it's a high skill low floor list because ember can go pop so quickly. I played this list the other night and found it quite good.

Ember never had an opportunity to use his ability but consistent with his offence. Kylo was Kylo and the Cadets just hung in there and did the occasional damage.

Yes I don't expect that Ember triggers its ability every turn but even if it triggers one time per game, I think it's enough considering its new cost, like a crash shot for example.

I will test it next week and my plan so far is to be as defensive as I can with Ember and the 3 cadets while Kylo flank or bait.

Should be pretty OK. Most lists with no bad pilots , no bad upgrades , no fragile synergies , and an appropriate bid are going to be at least decent. This fits the bill.

Yes, on paper it doesn't look bad. It's a bit odd without any ugprade but with the FO, I'm use to it.

I decided to go AO SFs....

Skunk Rash

(76) Kylo Ren [TIE/vn Silencer]
Points: 76

(48) "Ember" [TIE/ba Interceptor]
(2) Proud Tradition
Points: 50

(32) Zeta Squadron Survivor [TIE/sf Fighter]
(4) Advanced Optics
Points: 36

(32) Zeta Squadron Survivor [TIE/sf Fighter]
(4) Advanced Optics
Points: 36

Total points: 198

Zeta are great but I think 5 ships is perhaps a bit better in the scenario I imagine for Ember.

If you are going 4 ship I'd rather upgrade Ember to Holo/Vonreg than upgrading the Cadets.

It looks like another thing you can do with Ember is something similar to the Avenger silencer FO swarm.

Instead of:

Avenger

Zeta Squadron Survivor x 2

Zeta Squadron Cadet x 3

you could sub in Ember for Avenger and have:

Ember

Zeta Squadron Survivor x 3

Zeta Squadron Cadet x 2

You still have 4 points to add an upgrade of your choice to Ember.

Did a test on TTS with the list and add a victory. As I played poorly (a lot of bump, I not used to play swarm or mini swarm) but still won, I will continue to test it!