Are the Resistance / First Order essentially done as factions?

By FTS Gecko, in X-Wing

8 hours ago, Odanan said:

PS: it's not going to happen, but what would you guys think if FFG released this ship as a single miniature with detachable wings for both the Starfighter and the Interceptor variants (and the Configuration card)?

I'm down for that. Making it modular but sturdy might be a problem, but I'd take it. If not, a two pack with both variants would work for me. But more than the models, I want them distinct from the SF and Silencer gameplay wise.

To me they were 'done' after watching TLJ 😂 . IMHO. Only thing in those factions I've expanded was A2-wings to test a theory. Only reason I converted my collection of those two factions to 2.0 was to maintain resale value. Would not be bothered if FFG stepped over the ST the way the D has.

On 7/20/2020 at 6:20 AM, GuacCousteau said:

Yeah, seems like there's actually quite a lot of Sequel Era content left to come out. Sure, it's boring as **** Rebels+1 or bigger, pointier Imperials but there's quite a lot from TRoS and Resistance.

My hot take in this situation is that the Prequel factions are the ones basically done already. Republic has the LAAT we know about, the V-Wing and Eta-2 that are all but confirmed and then.... The Nu-class? The Theta-class? The G9 Rigger? Some large base options there, but I doubt we'll see all three.

But IMO finding meaningful distinction between the V-19, Delta-7, V-Wing and Eta-2 is going to be tough.

Separatists have it even worse. After the HMP, there's the droid tri-fighter and the Sheathipede and.... the Rogue class? I honestly thing that's it. Seps have nothing interesting in the vault. Probably the strongest argument for Jango's Firespray being Separatist is that the faction desperately needs the ship variety.

As an aside, does anyone think there's an outside chance to get Nym as Republic pilot, similar to how he was also a Rebel pilot in 1e? Bums me out that we can't fly him alongside N-1s or Delta-7s like in Starfighter and Jedi Starfighter. Y'know, the games he actually featured in.

Just off the top of my head theres Mankvims, Akjor shuttles, The Twighlight, Clone Z95s, 6 different Trandoshan Freighters, plus Epic scale ships like the Defender class corvette or Royal Starcruiser, all in addition to what you mentioned from the prequels. Half of the feasable ships from the actual films havent made it in yet, let alone clone wars. Certainly more ships than either the OT or Disney crap have left to offer

Edited by Vontoothskie

Due to the fact that it either falls into the Age of Rebellion or Age of Resistance depending on which Disney chart you look at, the Outland TIE could be Empire, FO, or both, depending on what is convenient.

We know that The Mandalorian also is specifically going to be at least in part about the rise of the FO as well, so we should also expect both some existing characters (And thus potentially pilots) and future ones to eventually help form it, which means that they could slot into FO just like Saw slots into the Rebellion despite being out of it by the time he is with The Renegades or how Maul is able to be flown as a CIS member despite being killed and then retaconned to being alive being dismembered and becoming a member of the Scum faction 8 years before it was ever formed, which is a shorter period of time than when the First Order starts being active, even though it takes longer for the entire remnant to become the First Order. It obviously isn't guaranteed to be that and could easily flop to Empire if we start seeing a ton of classic Imperial ships or this particular remnant faction we see collapses well before the FO forms, but in case of emergency FFG could break that glass and I doubt anyone would say 'no way!'

And, depending on how well The Mandalorian does, it may manage to do what a lot of the transmedia for the prequel era did and jumpstart it to be a profitable time period to create transmedia for again, in which case we could look forward to more ships and characters.

18 minutes ago, dezzmont said:

Due to the fact that it either falls into the Age of Rebellion or Age of Resistance depending on which Disney chart you look at, the Outland TIE could be Empire, FO, or both, depending on what is convenient.

How would the Outland TIE be differentiated from a regular TIE Fighter? Looking at what is know about the Outland TIE, it is just a regular TIE that has wings that fold for landing. I could see getting a Moff Gideon pilot for the Imperial faction in a Hotshots and Aces style pack.

24 minutes ago, dezzmont said:

Maul is able to be flown as a CIS member despite being killed and then retaconned to being alive being dismembered and becoming a member of the Scum faction 8 years before it was ever formed,

This justification makes me want more Maul in my Scum faction. Maul never served the CIS, give me him in the Nightbrother Gauntlet fighter for Scum, please.

2 minutes ago, 5050Saint said:

How would the Outland TIE be differentiated from a regular TIE Fighter

I dunno! I am not a rocket ion engine scientist! Probably would do something like the Mining TIE in having an ability focused on being slippery or being worn down or something while still fundamentally being a basic TIE. The TIE/Fo is (visually) not much different than a regular TIE either, and nothing on screen indicated otherwise, so it wouldn't be hard for supplementary materials to claim something about em.

5 minutes ago, 5050Saint said:

This justification makes me want more Maul in my Scum faction. Maul never served the CIS, give me him in the Nightbrother Gauntlet fighter for Scum, please.

While he never canonically fought alongside the CIS, he thematically is a good fit for CIS (And Scum too, obviously. Gimmie that Gauntlet yeah!) because he operates in the same era, fighting in a precursor conflict alongside the same factions that form the CIS, against a group that the CIS fights. Same reason little Annie gets to be Republic because the Naboo starfighter is clearly republic, despite that fight being against a group that tooootallly were not the CIS.

It also helps to remember that wargames are 'what if' scenarios, and that part of the appeal is both creating your own story and characters (one of the WEAKNESSES of X-wing, despite being very evocative and naturally creating a story, is its inability to really support the 'your dudes' aspect of wargames), and it is very natural to imagine hypothetical scenarios where Maul is fighting alongside mostly CIS ships, like droid starfighters and the like, either because its some other task he was doing around Episode 1, or he just happened to make it for longer and was the apprentice during the Clone Wars.

Like ultimately the exact specific canon doesn't matter too much because I certainly don't remember Maul and Dooku teaming up to defeat their hated enemies of... Luke Skywalker and Kyle Kartan...