Reprints of the Upsilon and Starfortress. The TIE Whisper.

Then what?

TIE Dagger. Resistance Y and B. T-85 maybe. Resistance Falcon. FO Bomber. Knights of Ren shuttle. Probably plenty more from comics, but that several waves right there.

I-TS transport also, and if they get desperate for the resistance they can do either the Colossus Aces or some reprints from other factions (lancer, u-wing, fang, N-1, etc). Though I hope that’s avoided where possible.

Plenty of ships in line for these factions, whether they get made or not is the real question.

46 minutes ago, BVRCH said:

Plenty of ships in line for these factions, whether they get made or not is the real question.

seems more likely than any faction other than the prequels tbh

the big three already have enough options that there's usually entire ships that don't even get played once in any given meta

Theres the tie/es shuttle and vi moradi flies a hh 87 starhopper (but that probably should be in scum).

Top of my head:

Resistance:

• T-85
• NR2-Y-wing
• B-wing MK2
• Shuttles from TLJ
• Lander from ROS
• Venisa Doza X-wing
• Repaints and Ace packs for ROS Poe X-Wing, Falcon, and A-wing...what? There was a green one.

First Order

• Tie Whisper (Tie Fighter look-alike one)
• Tie Whisper (Kylo Ren Interceptor)
• Tie Bomber
• Tie Echelon
• Tie Dagger

Yeah, seems like there's actually quite a lot of Sequel Era content left to come out. Sure, it's boring as **** Rebels+1 or bigger, pointier Imperials but there's quite a lot from TRoS and Resistance.

My hot take in this situation is that the Prequel factions are the ones basically done already. Republic has the LAAT we know about, the V-Wing and Eta-2 that are all but confirmed and then.... The Nu-class? The Theta-class? The G9 Rigger? Some large base options there, but I doubt we'll see all three.

But IMO finding meaningful distinction between the V-19, Delta-7, V-Wing and Eta-2 is going to be tough.

Separatists have it even worse. After the HMP, there's the droid tri-fighter and the Sheathipede and.... the Rogue class? I honestly thing that's it. Seps have nothing interesting in the vault. Probably the strongest argument for Jango's Firespray being Separatist is that the faction desperately needs the ship variety.

As an aside, does anyone think there's an outside chance to get Nym as Republic pilot, similar to how he was also a Rebel pilot in 1e? Bums me out that we can't fly him alongside N-1s or Delta-7s like in Starfighter and Jedi Starfighter. Y'know, the games he actually featured in.

1 hour ago, GuacCousteau said:

Republic has the LAAT we know about, the V-Wing and Eta-2 that are all but confirmed and then.... The Nu-class? The Theta-class? The G9 Rigger? Some large base options there, but I doubt we'll see all three.

But IMO finding meaningful distinction between the V-19, Delta-7, V-Wing and Eta-2 is going to be tough.

Separatists have it even worse. After the HMP, there's the droid tri-fighter and the Sheathipede and.... the Rogue class? I honestly thing that's it. Seps have nothing interesting in the vault. Probably the strongest argument for Jango's Firespray being Separatist is that the faction desperately needs the ship variety.

As an aside, does anyone think there's an outside chance to get Nym as Republic pilot, similar to how he was also a Rebel pilot in 1e? Bums me out that we can't fly him alongside N-1s or Delta-7s like in Starfighter and Jedi Starfighter. Y'know, the games he actually featured in.

Republic has the clone z95, which will need to be a different sculpt and thus different stats not competing with the torrents.

At least a large base has to be coming, and quite likely two of them (eventually they will do the rigger like it or not).

Seppies have the Umbaran fighters to add, could add Asajj’s other pre-Lancer ships as well.

6 hours ago, KiraYamatoSF said:

First Order

• Tie Whisper (Tie Fighter look-alike one)
• Tie Whisper (Kylo Ren Interceptor)

The fact that the tie whisper is basically a slight reskin of the SF is a bit of a problem. Basically, alongside the fo and SF, you'd have three ships that look nearly identical. And how do you distinguish them thematically?The way I'd do the tie whisper-

First, we notice that there's two variants- kylo's with the interceptor panels like the silencer, and then another that's more like an SF but different cockpit design.

So, you release an "aces pack" with one of each of the designs. Then, make TIE/Whisper a config.

The ships all look alike, so just lean into it. The config is double unique (tie SF and silencer only), and gives the cloak action, and says something like "while you are cloaked, you cannot be locked".

The new pilots would be talented i4s for the SF. Then, one unique pilot for each of the SF and silencer with a pilot ability that interests with cloak or the config. It could also come with lehuse and phasma and rush why not.

Balancing a cloaking Kylo would be tough, but it's a problem that's going to exist with pretty much any form of Kylo in the whisper.

9 minutes ago, Ablazoned said:

Balancing a cloaking Kylo would be tough, but it's a problem that's going to exist with pretty much any form of Kylo in the whisper.

Many other cool things it could do besides cloak. I hope they are more creative and restrictive than that.

My biggest concern is that the Tie Whisper ends up with a rear arc and boost. That could ruin the faction for me, something SFs are pretty close to doing already since they make choices between lower cost (30-40 pt) ships really problematic, and have genuinely uninteresting flight paths without the gunner title. As an aside a part of me wishes the gunner title was built into the SF, required, and not an upgrade.

46 minutes ago, Ablazoned said:

So, you release an "aces pack" with one of each of the designs. Then, make TIE/Whisper a config.

The ships all look alike, so just lean into it. The config is double unique (tie SF and silencer only), and gives the cloak action, and says something like "while you are cloaked, you cannot be locked".

FRELL NO to Kloaking Kylo. He's unpredictable enough. Give the ship a different dial, 3/3/3/3 statline, and a different ability than Autothrusters, and you are already well on your way to a different ship. Simply taking Autothrusters off make the TIE Whisper a vastly different ship than the TIE Silencer.

1 hour ago, 5050Saint said:

FRELL NO to Kloaking Kylo. He's unpredictable enough. Give the ship a different dial, 3/3/3/3 statline, and a different ability than Autothrusters, and you are already well on your way to a different ship. Simply taking Autothrusters off make the TIE Whisper a vastly different ship than the TIE Silencer.

Perhaps the config says “you cannot use the autothruster ship ability” on it?

Give it a new action, sure. I don’t know if cloak is the right one. Maybe jam instead because he hides from sensors that way instead of cloaking?

2 hours ago, Ablazoned said:

The fact that the tie whisper is basically a slight reskin of the SF is a bit of a problem. Basically, alongside the fo and SF, you'd have three ships that look nearly identical. And how do you distinguish them thematically?The way I'd do the tie whisper-

First, we notice that there's two variants- kylo's with the interceptor panels like the silencer, and then another that's more like an SF but different cockpit design.

So, you release an "aces pack" with one of each of the designs. Then, make TIE/Whisper a config.

The ships all look alike, so just lean into it. The config is double unique (tie SF and silencer only), and gives the cloak action, and says something like "while you are cloaked, you cannot be locked".

The new pilots would be talented i4s for the SF. Then, one unique pilot for each of the SF and silencer with a pilot ability that interests with cloak or the config. It could also come with lehuse and phasma and rush why not.

Balancing a cloaking Kylo would be tough, but it's a problem that's going to exist with pretty much any form of Kylo in the whisper.

Don’t mess with cloak. Make it jam, and a new ship ability to replace autothrusters that allows you to link into Jam (and also maybe extend jam range to R2? 3 would be too powerful)

3 hours ago, Boom Owl said:

Many other cool things it could do besides cloak. I hope they are more creative and restrictive than that.

My biggest concern is that the Tie Whisper ends up with a rear arc and boost. That could ruin the faction for me, something SFs are pretty close to doing already since they make choices between lower cost (30-40 pt) ships really problematic, and have genuinely uninteresting flight paths without the gunner title. As an aside a part of me wishes the gunner title was built into the SF, required, and not an upgrade.

So basically you don't want them to be the FO's RZ-2 A-Wings. And sure, that's fair - I hate no ship in the game more than the RZ-2, since it's tremendously unfun to fly against.

13 hours ago, FTS Gecko said:

Reprints of the Upsilon and Starfortress. The TIE Whisper.

Then what?

I'm glad you asked.

On 2/27/2019 at 7:24 PM, Odanan said:

RESISTANCE:

• T-85 X-Wing (with an exclusive mod that gives cloaking?)
• Fireball and other "racing" ships from The Resistance series ( Black Ace is awesome). There are at least 6 other ships in the Ace Squadron and oh, they would look awesome in a X-Wing spin-off about racing (totally compatible with the main game).
• Y-Wing BTA-NR2 (yay! Y-Wings for everybody!). More images here .
• New X-Wing with 2 guns , from 2nd season of The Resistance.
• Resistance B-Wing .
• WTK-85A transport (title: Bestoon Legacy ) - is it Scum? was this ship originally piloted by Rey's parents? well, has at least one First Order (Ochi) and one Resistance (Poe) pilot. Oh, I think it featured in some later episodes of The Resistance. More info released.
• A lot of ships in the background of the big (space?) battle in Ep. IX.

FIRST ORDER:

• "TIE Whisper modified Interceptor" (from the Ep. IX traile r) Kylo's TIE Whisper (it has a turret and the same rear window of the TIE/sf - maybe indicating a gunner?)
• TIE Whisper (looks like a mix of FO TIE Fighter with FO Special Forces TIE)
• TIE Dagger / Sith TIE Fighter (could be Attack 2 + cannon slot to differentiate it from the other FO TIEs)
• First Order TIE Bomber ??? NEW IMAGE ! (from 2nd season of The Resistance and comics) Detailed view here and wiki's entry here .
• Drone X-Wing (from The Resistance show)
• Oubliette-class transport , title: Night Buzzard (the ship of the Knights of Ren in Ep. IX).
• Droid Orbital Probe (wow, this could be really unique). More info here . And there is another: Spider Probe Droid .

The more urgent:

Resistance : T-85 X-wing, Resistance Y-wing, Resistance B-wing.

First Order : Kylo's TIE Whisper, FO TIE Bomber, TIE Dagger, Knights of Ren shuttle

Tl;dr: noooope

I would personally love to see some of the more oddball Scum ships come back in other factions, along with Scum conversion parts in the pack. I will always love my Scum, but it’s a big ol’ faction with a lot of sprawl, and some of those ships might not come back for years unless redirected to help beef up other factions.

8 hours ago, Boom Owl said:

My biggest concern is that the Tie Whisper ends up with a rear arc and boost.

Make it a 2-turret-primary (AKA remove front arc)? RZ-2 isn't horrendously awful.

Ideally, moving the turret turns off all repositioning ability. That could be cool. And maybe it can only be rotated in the system phase...

Regarding the similarity of ships, I don't think making them 'feel' noticibly different is too much of a problem. There are numerous very similar ships already that have tweaks to make them more individual. Particularly if you pretend you know nothing about them other than their look.

Making them equally worth using, in the same faction, is the real trick.

Can't believe I forgot the Resistance Falcon.

But then again, I can't believe it's not been released yet.

2 hours ago, FTS Gecko said:

Can't believe I forgot the Resistance Falcon.

But then again, I can't believe it's not been released yet.

Soon?

Fugitives and Collaborators.

9 hours ago, Odanan said:

New X-Wing with 2 guns , from 2nd season of The Resistance.

This is the one I find most interesting. According to Wookieepedia, Venisa Doza’s X-wing was just a modified T-65. Could easily add in the T-65 into the resistance ships with Venisa, some members from Jade Squadron and Rey as pilots. I wouldn’t be opposed to that at all.

14 hours ago, Ablazoned said:

The fact that the tie whisper is basically a slight reskin of the SF is a bit of a problem. Basically, alongside the fo and SF, you'd have three ships that look nearly identical. And how do you distinguish them thematically?The way I'd do the tie whisper-

First, we notice that there's two variants- kylo's with the interceptor panels like the silencer, and then another that's more like an SF but different cockpit design.

So, you release an "aces pack" with one of each of the designs. Then, make TIE/Whisper a config.

Both TIE Whisper variants (SF style solar panels + Kylo solar panels) in an aces pack would have me peak my interest! With not knowing much how different they could be, a configuration variant wouldn't be too far out of place as opposed to redesigning stats or giving it stealth due to its name (unless of course that's their thing).

7 hours ago, infyrana said:

Both TIE Whisper variants (SF style solar panels + Kylo solar panels) in an aces pack would have me peak my interest! With not knowing much how different they could be, a configuration variant wouldn't be too far out of place as opposed to redesigning stats or giving it stealth due to its name (unless of course that's their thing).

The TIE Whisper Starfighter looks like a lighter, more agile, FO TIE/sf with the jam action.

The TIE Whisper Interceptor (Kylo's) is the TIE/wi with the wings of the TIE/vn (lots of guns = more frontal attack).

I wouldn't mind to see both miniatures in the same squadron pack, even if they were the same ship (and Kylo's were a Configuration with +1 attack)

PS: it's not going to happen, but what would you guys think if FFG released this ship as a single miniature with detachable wings for both the Starfighter and the Interceptor variants (and the Configuration card)?

Peak = ⛰️

Pique = 🤔 😮

3 hours ago, FTS Gecko said:

Peak = ⛰️

Pique = 🤔 😮

Thank you, my mistake there - hasty replies!