Token Test - 6 green tokens on one ship?

By TBot, in X-Wing

With only 2 generic pilots and a mix of upgrades, can you figure out how to get 3 focus, 1 evade, 1 reinforce and 1 calculate on the same ship? (NO EPIC SHIPS/UPGRADES)

Can u figure it out?

Can you do better?

I'll play :)

-Lothal Rebel (vcx-100), with Baze Malbus and Perceptive Copilot

-Blue Squadron Scout (U-wing), carrying K2SO ans Jyn Erso

The VCX gets a calculate from K2SO in system phase, does a blue manoeuvre to get within range 1 of 2 ennemy ships, reinforces, and is coordinated a red focus action, wich give it 3 focus token, plus 1 evade from PC->Jyn Erso

And I'll do better :

-Rebel scout (HWK-290), with Baze Malbus, Angled Deflectors, Moldy Crow

-Blue Squadron Scout (U-wing), carrying K2SO ans Jyn Erso

It works exactly the same, but the Crow already has two focus tokens from previous turns

Final result : 4 focus, 1 evade, 1 reinforce, 1 calculate

Makes me think that I have never, ever used Baze Malbus in one of my lists...

Edited by AbsatSolo
20 minutes ago, Ablazoned said:

I get three focus, an evade, and three calculates with this:

No named pilots was part of the rules.

23 minutes ago, AbsatSolo said:

Makes me think that I have never, ever used Baze Malbus in one of my lists...

I have, but have not been impressed. Best use was Lando w/Baze and Nien and a U-Wing carrying Jyn. Could reliably get Lock/Focus/Evade each turn. It was okay.

Edited by 5050Saint

Whoops

Edited by AbsatSolo
Just now, 5050Saint said:

No named pilots was part of the rules.

I was replying to the "can you do better" part, though.

Barring anything that depends on enemy ships, there's lots of ways to get 6. I'll work on 7, though.

Another one ?

-Resistance sympahtizer, with Han Solo and Perceptive Copilot

-Logistics division Pilot (resistance transport), with C3PO and Amilyn Holdo

It becomes a game of "how many ennemy ships can you manage to get at range 1 of the Falcon"

Being coordinated a focus, jousting a Swarm at range 1 (don't do that) taking an evade action, and getting the 3PO calculate thanks to Holdo, gets you : 2 focus, 1 calculate, 4-5 evades (4 ships at range 1 seems possible, 5 is far stretched)

So, 7-8 green tokens :) , and the Falcon isn't even stressed

*Edit*

Of course the "good guys" factions are the best at sharing/generating tokens

I'll make an honorable mention to Scum, though :

-Trandoshan slaver (YV-666) with IG-88D, Perceptive Copilot, Han Solo Gunner

- Tansaari Point Veteran (M3A) as a Squad Leader

The Slaver get 2 calculate, 1 reinforce, 2 focus -> 5 tokens, not bad for a faction of selfish ****s :)

*Edit 2*

The best possible with FO seems to be 4, and that is only on turn 1 with hyperspace tracking data 😕

Edited by AbsatSolo
Scum deserves love too (they probably don't) FO is crying in the corner
39 minutes ago, AbsatSolo said:

It becomes a game of "how many ennemy ships can you manage to get at range 1 of the Falcon"

This is why I assumed you can't preordain enemy ship positions. If you don't, resistance Han crew gets 8 on his own...

56 minutes ago, Ablazoned said:

This is why I assumed you can't preordain enemy ship positions. If you don't, resistance Han crew gets 8 on his own...

Well, that is why I limited myself to 5 tokens for Han Solo, meaning 4 ships at range 1, which is difficult, but probably possible. The idea that one could get 8 tokens is indeed ridiculous.

Without preordainding ennemy position i-e without Baze or Han, the best is 6 tokens replacing Baze by Perco in my previous rebel list

and barring the Moldy Crow the best achievabable is probably 5 :

a two-crew transport with an advanced droid brain crew and PerCo does a calculate action, gets coordinated a focus action by the second ship, and gets another token via some other trick

What are the upgrades that can pass tokens ? (Or generate them on the non-coordinating ship

So far I have :

K2SO

0-0-0 but it would need a 3rd crew slot, and an ennemy ship

Amylin Holdo

Darth Sidious (republic lacks a two crew ship, sadly)

R4-P44 (needs an ennemy)

C1-10P gives an action, but gives stress before the action phase

Ahsoka Tano gives an action

TA-175

Kraken keeps a token from last turn

Minister Tua give one more action, but the Empire doesn't have acces to an advanced droid

Same for Grand Inquisitor, and it needs an ennemy

Anyone else?

*Edit*

Assuming the upcoming laat has 2 crew and a gunner, laat(c3po, PerCo, Ashoka) and arc(Sidious) with lower init can get 1 reinforce, 3 focus, 2 calculate, so 6 as well

Edited by AbsatSolo
Laat ?
9 hours ago, AbsatSolo said:

I'll play :)

-Lothal Rebel (vcx-100), with Baze Malbus and Perceptive Copilot

-Blue Squadron Scout (U-wing), carrying K2SO ans Jyn Erso

The VCX gets a calculate from K2SO in system phase, does a blue manoeuvre to get within range 1 of 2 ennemy ships, reinforces, and is coordinated a red focus action, wich give it 3 focus token, plus 1 evade from PC->Jyn Erso

And I'll do better :

-Rebel scout (HWK-290), with Baze Malbus, Angled Deflectors, Moldy Crow

-Blue Squadron Scout (U-wing), carrying K2SO ans Jyn Erso

It works exactly the same, but the Crow already has two focus tokens from previous turns

Final result : 4 focus, 1 evade, 1 reinforce, 1 calculate

Makes me think that I have never, ever used Baze Malbus in one of my lists...

You're second list with the hawk/uwing was the same one I came up with. However I had perceptive copilot instead of Baze. Bonus points for getting an extra focus and shaving points!

It is a shame Baze never sees the table :( and a shame Chirrut never got a crew card.

On 7/15/2020 at 12:18 AM, TBot said:

a shame Chirrut never got a crew card

Been saying this. Needs to play nice with red focus or a use for focus tokens at R1 for optimal synergy.

Wouldn't even have to have a force point.

Maybe "While you defend at range one, if you are stressed, you may convert one blank result to a focus result for each focus token you have."

Might be a little too reliable to be allowed though. That's some intense mods.

Edited by ClassicalMoser
On 7/15/2020 at 1:18 AM, TBot said:

a shame Chirrut never got a crew card.

Chirrut Imwe. Crew. Rebel Only. 1 [force charge], recurring.

While you perform a focus action, you must treat it as purple.

Intentional synergy with Base, sorta. Rebel crew ships don't have linked red focuses, right? Even if they did get that, I feel this wouldn't be out of control.

Edited by Ablazoned
2 hours ago, Ablazoned said:

While you perform a focus action, you must treat it as purple.

Intentional synergy with Base, sorta.

Actually it would completely turn off Baze's ability:

Quote

While you perform a [focus] action, you may treat it as red.

Must always takes precedence, and if it's not treated as red, you don't get the extra focus tokens. Even if Baze were also a must, in the presence of multiple requirements, it always defaults to the most restrictive, which in this case is purple. Do replacement effects kick in here? Given the must text I would think not, since he never got the opportunity to treat it as Red in the first place.

Not really sure how it's an advantage anyway, to be perfectly honest. Being able to spend the force instead of taking stress? If that's what you had in mind, what if:

Chirrut Imwe. Crew. Rebel Only. 1 [force charge], recurring.

While you would perform a red action, you may treat it as purple.

This could grant him a little extra utility on an Attack Shuttle or U-Wing, and would make him quite good on the Falcon (purple boost!) or ARC (purple barrel roll!). Obviously there's the same utility with Baze there too, but I kind of like the idea of a guy who's like an overpriced Tactical Officer/Engine Upgrade/Expert Handling, but with situational extra utility.

Sort of like Ezra Bridger, the overpriced VTG with situational extra utility... 😢

Fun thought: If we ever got Ezra in a trainer RZ-1, this version of Chirrut could make him like a lousy I3 CLT Jedi.

Edited by ClassicalMoser
1 hour ago, ClassicalMoser said:

Chirrut Imwe. Crew. Rebel Only. 1 [force charge], recurring.

While you would perform a red action, you may treat it as purple.

Yours is better than mine, and more flexible. I might take your advice about baze and change it to this:

after you perform a red action, you may spend 1 [force] to remove 1 stress token.

or potentially even make it a range 0-2 ability...

Edited by Ablazoned
15 hours ago, ClassicalMoser said:

Chirrut Imwe. Crew. Rebel Only. 1 [force charge], recurring.

While you would perform a red action, you may treat it as purple

I like it, but it might have some unforeseen powerful interactions, I'm going to try to break it. I'll be back.

EDIT, Here is what I've found that could use this:

  • Debris Gambit
  • Sqaud Leader
  • Baze Malbus crew
  • ARC-170
    • Barrel Roll
  • Attack Shuttle
    • Barrel Roll link to Evade
  • Auzituck
    • Barrel Roll
  • Y-Wing
    • Barrel Roll
    • Reload
  • HWK-290
    • Focus link to Rotate
    • Lock link to Rotate
    • Boost
    • Daredevil + Engine Upgrade Boost
    • Jam
  • YT-1300
    • Boost
  • U-Wing
    • Coordinate
  • YT-2400
    • Barrel Roll
Edited by 5050Saint
2 hours ago, 5050Saint said:

HWK-290

  • Focus link to Rotate
  • Lock link to Rotate
  • Boost
  • Daredevil + Engine Upgrade Boost
  • Jam

Niiiiiiice...

I'LL TAKE IT!

One Vulture using all 7 of his mates calcs probably doesn't count eh? Slip a little Tac Relay biz in there and one lucky droid probably has access to about a zillion tokens....

I can imagine some kind of Manaroo, IG, Moldy Palob, PerCo, Debris Gambit, Squad Leader MGT nonsense but I can't be bothered to think it all out because it seems super not worth it :D