Making Dooku a necessary take for Jango to play Sep is a nice idea, but probably way too restricting at present.

Scum certainly don't need new Spray pilots but I wouldn't say no. Unless, Boba being a pure clone, the Jango card is identical in every way 😄

Boba and a Vulture swarm.... probably fine....

8 minutes ago, Cuz05 said:

Making Dooku a necessary take for Jango to play Sep is a nice idea, but probably way too restricting at present.

Scum certainly don't need new Spray pilots but I wouldn't say no. Unless, Boba being a pure clone, the Jango card is identical in every way 😄

Boba and a Vulture swarm.... probably fine....

The fact Boba is an unaltered clone leaves some interesting design space for Jango. I feel his ability should be about rerolls or tied to the number of opponents, but not necessarily the same.

Also, he should work with presumably the Young Boba crew/gunner card that he will come with.

Edit: Due to his battle against Obi Wan. I've always felt like his ability should work against Jedi best, but is versatile to go against anyone.

For example I'd have Jangos ability saying something like: After performing an Attack, the Defender must spend a Force Charge, spend a Green Token, or Suffer 1 damage.

35 minutes ago, funwok said:

Saw it on discord -> WT = Working Title? Continental may be a codename for a (at that time) still unnamed ship in lore. Anybody have a guess? 😉

Probably a shuttle of some sort. . .

For the Jango debate, what if they did something like they did back in 1.0?

What if Jango himself is separatist but there are two generics, one separatist and one scum? And what if other named pilots are scum? Could be an interesting way to pull this off, and then make the scum pilots available in a card pack (assuming that the dial/chassis is the same - it probably will be but maybe not)

1 hour ago, GuacCousteau said:

But no one wants an Imperial Firespray

I do.

10 minutes ago, ScummyRebel said:

For the Jango debate, what if they did something like they did back in 1.0?

What if Jango himself is separatist but there are two generics, one separatist and one scum? And what if other named pilots are scum? Could be an interesting way to pull this off, and then make the scum pilots available in a card pack (assuming that the dial/chassis is the same - it probably will be but maybe not)

A card pack I can definitely see them doing at some point. I don't expect the expansion to be cross faction though as they seem to be trying to keep expansions contained to the faction printed on the box. At least as far as I know.

V-Wing could be cool, so long as Obi goes up in price, given his ability in supporting clones.

If it's a direct port to the game (fancy TIE fighter that preceded the A Wing), then a 2 3 3 1 statline with Talent, Missile, and Astromech slots are to be expected on top of a pseudo Vectored Thrusters. A config could replace the missile with payload. A new ship ability would be cool though.

44 minutes ago, Hoarder of Garlic Bread said:

Razorcrest? Assuming the image is real, which is a lot these days.

Nailed it!

BTW, is the Razorcrest the name of the specific ship ("title") or the model? The series is very ambiguous about that.

Hey, the ship model could even be called "Continental", or (most likely) this is just a working title until they figure out the chassis name.

20 minutes ago, Odanan said:

Nailed it!

BTW, is the Razorcrest the name of the specific ship ("title") or the model? The series is very ambiguous about that.

Hey, the ship model could even be called "Continental", or (most likely) this is just a working title until they figure out the chassis name.

Razor Crest is the name of the specific ship of whatever class of gunship it is.

From Starwars.com:

"RAZOR CREST

A former military craft used to patrol local territories in the time before the Empire, the Razor Crest is the Mandalorian's trusty transport and living quarters, as he scours the Outer Rim for fugitives to catch."

Whenever I am not sure what faction would be best for Jango, I always remind myself of this scene and why I think he should be for the Sepratists. This scene is one of the better ones of Episode II, where the stilted acting/ line delivery (imo) enhance the scene due to it being relativity tense. Both Obi-wan and Jango are trying to lean more about each other without revealing too much of their hand. I always though the line " I'm just a simple man trying to make my way in the universe " was Jango trying to feign innocence / plead the 5th, so to speak.

Jango may have been paid well, but there were plenty of reasons for him to side with the Seps. He wasn't doing this just for the money, the man hated Jedi. Compare that with Boba, who was just killing two bounties on Han Solo with one stone (1 from Jabba & 1 from Vader), and only shot at Luke to protect his business venture. In terms of Jango not entirely being "devoted to the (CIS) cause", there are plenty of other pilots in the game whose motives don't line up exactly with their faction. Dash Rendar for the Rebels comes to mind first.

Also, this exchange right here (2 :00) :

" I look forward to seeing them in action. "

"... They'll do their job well, I'll guarantee that ."

That line by Jango always told me that he knew a lot more than what he was letting on. The slight pause before choosing his words, the unblinking eye contact. He knew exactly what purpose the clones were created for.

From a design perspective, Jango would be very interesting addition for the Sepratists to challenge their usual swarm-style listbuilding. New ship with might mean different upgrade slots/etc., as mentioned above - might even have a gunner slot built in. Flying with Maul/Dooku as a wingman or a smaller swarm would be hella cool. Could also function as an excellent Dooku/Grevious/Palp carrier.

Just my thoughts.

34 minutes ago, Hoarder of Garlic Bread said:

V-Wing could be cool, so long as Obi goes up in price, given his ability in supporting clones.

If it's a direct port to the game (fancy TIE fighter that preceded the A Wing), then a 2 3 3 1 statline with Talent, Missile, and Astromech slots are to be expected on top of a pseudo Vectored Thrusters. A config could replace the missile with payload. A new ship ability would be cool though.

Lateral Thrusters : After you perform an action, you may perform a red Barrel Roll action.

6 minutes ago, ImperialAce95 said:

Lateral Thrusters : After you perform an action, you may perform a red Barrel Roll action.

With them being an A-Wing/TIE Fighter Hybrid with it being a progenitor of the latter. I can see that. It reminds you of the A-Wings ability but for Barrel rolls which TIE's are known for.

44 minutes ago, Hoarder of Garlic Bread said:

If [a V-Wing is] a direct port to the game (fancy TIE fighter that preceded the A Wing), then a 2 3 3 1 statline with Talent, Missile, and Astromech slots are to be expected on top of a pseudo Vectored Thrusters. A config could replace the missile with payload. A new ship ability would be cool though.

Sounds about right as a chassis.

6 minutes ago, ImperialAce95 said:

Lateral Thrusters : After you perform an action, you may perform a red Barrel Roll action.

I'd love for someone to get this. It'd feel different enough from Vectored Thrusters or Autothrusters to make a ship seem distinct.

Jango provided the genetic material for the Republic's entire army. I have a hard time aligning him with the Separatists when he was paid to help create the opposing army.

31 minutes ago, ImperialAce95 said:

Also, this exchange right here (2 :00) :

" I look forward to seeing them in action. "

"... They'll do their job well, I'll guarantee that ."

That line by Jango always told me that he knew a lot more than what he was letting on. The slight pause before choosing his words, the unblinking eye contact. He knew exactly what purpose the clones were created for.

Following that understanding, Jango would have been working for Sidious/Palpatine and never been allied with the CIS or the Republic, but rather the man who was playing both sides against each other.

1 hour ago, Skitch_ said:

Razor Crest is the name of the specific ship of whatever class of gunship it is.

From Starwars.com:

"RAZOR CREST

A former military craft used to patrol local territories in the time before the Empire, the Razor Crest is the Mandalorian's trusty transport and living quarters, as he scours the Outer Rim for fugitives to catch."

As far as I remember, once in the series, someone asked the protagonist if his ship was "a" Razor Crest. Or something like this.

OK, here is what I saw in the series that made me feel that "Razor Crest" might be the name of the chassis:

Transcript, Chapter 6 :

I wouldnt mind if the firespray had scum/separatists options and the v wing had republic/empire options. It worked with the scurrg in 1.0. Darth vader flew the v wing in at least two of the new books. It would encourage newer players to branch out and give people in the more settled factions something to buy.

1 minute ago, reqent said:

I wouldnt mind if the firespray had scum/separatists options and the v wing had republic/empire options. It worked with the scurrg in 1.0. Darth vader flew the v wing in at least two of the new books. It would encourage newer players to branch out and give people in the more settled factions something to buy.

Yep, the V-Wing was extensively* used by the Empire in the first years BUT I don't thing FFG will make it double faction. Unfortunately.

* Tarkin himself was a pilot of the ship.

11 minutes ago, reqent said:

I wouldnt mind if the firespray had scum/separatists options and the v wing had republic/empire options. It worked with the scurrg in 1.0. Darth vader flew the v wing in at least two of the new books. It would encourage newer players to branch out and give people in the more settled factions something to buy.

A valid point, although I'd hardly call anything that happened in the later stages of 1.0 a concept that "worked," not least of all Rebel Nym. Still, it could be a cool concept, but it seems like they're straying away from double faction ships in 2.0, with the exception of the Falcon.

45 minutes ago, joeshmoe554 said:

Following that understanding, Jango would have been working for Sidious/Palpatine and never been allied with the CIS or the Republic , but rather the man who was playing both sides against each other.

And following the understanding of following that understanding, we now need a Sith Faction that includes exactly 2 pilots in 2 exactly ships. . . 😲

29 minutes ago, Npmartian said:

A valid point, although I'd hardly call anything that happened in the later stages of 1.0 a concept that "worked," not least of all Rebel Nym. Still, it could be a cool concept, but it seems like they're straying away from double faction ships in 2.0, with the exception of the Falcon.

I should clarify it didn't make people angry that there was a rebel pilot a scum pack. Nymgar haunts me to this day....

7 hours ago, GuacCousteau said:

Eta-2 is a no brainer, obviously. Presumably it's going to be the Republic's elite fighter on par with the E-Wing, Defender and Star Viper.

Is that indicated anywhere? Or just your guessing?

7 hours ago, GuacCousteau said:

Really interesting that the TIE/rb has a lower product number than the LAAT/i, Xi and HMP. Suggests pretty strongly that it was developed before those ships (which makes sense, given that Solo was two years ago now). I wonder why they held it back. Maybe it was always meant to be part of that wave and just never got announced?

Maybe a quality issue with the actual model? Would not be the first time. Cause it is really late. The gameplay design is not really complicated for a slightly slower, slightly beefier TIE with a cannon slot, so the delay must have other causes.

5 hours ago, DexterOnone said:

I think a lot of people are curious about that.

One thought I had was that it could be a translation or autocorrect error, and maybe there’s a possibility that it could be a Consular Class Cruiser as a first huge ship expansion for The Republic... but that’s probably just wishful thinking! 😉

Would be cool, especially as I like to think that there is an unreleased or aborted Huge ship project. As we got the Cargo "Coaxium Injector" 4pts Generic Upgrade in the first Huge ship points pdf. But this card was never released. But maybe the card was terminated after playtesting, and they just forgot to delete it, and the unreleased Huge is just wishful thinking.

The whole "Jango should be CIS, since he fought for Dooku" and "Jango should be Republic, since he was the Clone Template" is really instructive. It teaches us the importance of good editors at every step in the process (from concept to script to final cut).

Don't get me wrong, I've got a lot of love for the films of George Lucas, but **** does he need a team of editors and colaborators checking over his work. It's not big-idea vs fine-detail; a lot of the big-idea stuff needed editing, like the Midichorians and how they interacted with The Whills.

3 hours ago, ImperialAce95 said:

Lateral Thrusters : After you perform an action, you may perform a red Barrel Roll action.

Noice. It can still double repo, but in the opposite order. Plus, the A is superior in most ways, and boost is better than roll, so it fits. Odd ball would love it all the same.

Now on to astromech droids of choice...

53 minutes ago, theBitterFig said:

The whole "Jango should be CIS, since he fought for Dooku" and "Jango should be Republic, since he was the Clone Template" is really instructive. It teaches us the importance of good editors at every step in the process (from concept to script to final cut).

Don't get me wrong, I've got a lot of love for the films of George Lucas, but **** does he need a team of editors and colaborators checking over his work. It's not big-idea vs fine-detail; a lot of the big-idea stuff needed editing, like the Midichorians and how they interacted with The Whills.

What’s wrong with him being a mercenary hired for different jobs?

8 hours ago, ScummyRebel said:

I’m wondering what the continental is.

John Wick expansion