~~~ Clone Wars & Article Predictions ~~~

By eliteone, in Star Wars: Armada

I can feel the preview article for Clone Wars brewing. I predict it will be published within the next two weeks.

As many have guessed before; Clone Wars will release with a Core Set containing the Republic and Separatist factions. Anakin Skywalker will be included as an Ace. I also predict Clone Wars factions Wave 1 will ship alongside the Core Set, barring unforeseen circumstances. In addition to one ship for both new factions, Wave 1 will also include squadron packs for each new faction. Wave 2 has a tentative release date and will include the faction's flotillas.

We will eventually see Commander Yoda, and Commander Dooku. You'll see a push for both these factions to really specialize in having upgrades that strengthen the 'weaker' commands, like ConFire and Engineering.

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All I want is Admiral Trench commanding a fleet of Recusant-class Light Destroyers with 134 points in Vulture Droid squadrons... preferably by Wave 2.

Alright, here’s the prediction game: what commanders are in the core set?

Original core was Tarkin and Dodonna. Both were pretty high up in their respective forces. Both showed up onscreen in ANH.

Following the same patterns and assuming they tap the Clone Wars cartoon as their main source, I’m betting on Yularen and Grievous.

6 minutes ago, Church14 said:

Alright, here’s the prediction game: what commanders are in the core set?

Gonna go with General Kenobi and Kraken.

15 minutes ago, Admiral Calkins said:

Gonna go with General Kenobi and Kraken.

Solid prediction.

I would imagine that it's going to be hard to run a Clone Wars fleet against a GCW fleet to begin with because you're so constrained with the ships and squadrons you can choose.

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This guy was in only one episode of the Clone Wars (Jedi Crash) but TF-1726 should be a commander bundled with the Munificent frigate. He impatiently shoots down Aayla Secura's Venator with B2-RP droids onboard because the battle has gone 4 minutes longer than he anticipated.

"This is taking too long. Destroy that cruiser."
"But sir, there are still hundreds of droids on board!"
"I don't care."
"Roger, roger."
TF-1726 AND A B1 BATTLE DROID

Based his utter disregard of other droids and ship losses in pursuit of victory I think that he should get rerolls by damaging friendly ships or squadrons, or something involving friendly fire for a bonus. I think that is likely that at least a couple T-series tactical droids will be commanders once the big names like Dooku and Grievous are released so why not this guy?

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16 minutes ago, flatpackhamster said:

I would imagine that it's going to be hard to run a Clone Wars fleet against a GCW fleet to begin with because you're so constrained with the ships and squadrons you can choose.

Agreed. FFG wiil probably get enough product out right away to put togehter a 400pt. feet, but then your options consist of just those ships that get you to 400....

I have a feeling we are in the calm before the Armada storm. I predict we see Core Set, Wave I & II all released within a calendar year.

Let's be "FFG Release Date Generous" and say CW Core Set is at retail Feb 2021. Wave I follows no more than 3-months later, Wave II is the same. It's possible, however unlikely, that the players also get Wave III by Feb 2022. And while that's a glass-half-full prediction, it'll still be a year from in-hands to having a robust fleet versatility with the new factions. On the other hand, I do have a fleet with four Raiders, two Goz and a Kittens.

4 minutes ago, Piratical Moustache said:

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This guy was in only one episode of the Clone Wars (Jedi Crash) but TF-1726 should be a commander bundled with the Munificent frigate. He impatiently shoots down Aayla Secura's Venator with B2-RP droids onboard because the battle has gone 4 minutes longer than he anticipated.

"This is taking too long. Destroy that cruiser."
"But sir, there are still hundreds of droids on board!"
"I don't care."
"Roger, roger."
TF-1726 AND A B1 BATTLE DROID

Based his utter disregard of other droids and ship losses in pursuit of victory I think that he should get rerolls by damaging friendly ships or squadrons, or something involving friendly fire for a bonus. I think that is likely that at least a couple T-series tactical droids will be commanders once the big names like Dooku and Grievous are released so why not this guy?

Is that the Tactical Droid guy? My memory of CW series is hazy, but I do remember I really liked that droid.

44 minutes ago, flatpackhamster said:

I would imagine that it's going to be hard to run a Clone Wars fleet against a GCW fleet to begin with because you're so constrained with the ships and squadrons you can choose.

If they do 2 waves in short order, that would be probably 4 ships and 4-8 squadrons types in a side. That’s a good start for tourney lists. Not the depth of Rebel or Imp, but a good start if the first 2 waves are flexible ships.

Cease and Desist notice from the larger thread

7 minutes ago, Ginkapo said:

Cease and Desist notice from the larger thread

I try to abide by community standrads and not encourage Necro'd threads. :P

If all goes to plan, I intend to build the following:

  • Munificent -class frigate (x2)
  • Providence -class cruiser
  • Lucrehulk -class cruiser
  • Subjugator -class heavy cruiser
  • Vulture droids (just so many)

Will these synergize well with each other? Will they form a competent (and complete) fleet? I have no idea, but this would more than scratch my prequel-era itch, so I don't need anything more. I'm excited to play as nefarious corporate entities though, I must say.

1 hour ago, Rmcarrier1 said:

If all goes to plan, I intend to build the following:

  • Munificent -class frigate (x2)
  • Providence -class cruiser
  • Lucrehulk -class cruiser
  • Subjugator -class heavy cruiser
  • Vulture droids (just so many)

Will these synergize well with each other? Will they form a competent (and complete) fleet? I have no idea, but this would more than scratch my prequel-era itch, so I don't need anything more. I'm excited to play as nefarious corporate entities though, I must say.

I doubt that all of those ships will be able to fit in a 400pt list because Lucrehulk-class battleships and Subjugator-class heavy cruisers are almost certainly Huge Ships. I hope that Munificent-class frigates are cheap in points because I want to be able to run 4+ at a time like you see in the Clone Wars episodes.

4 minutes ago, Piratical Moustache said:

I doubt that all of those ships will be able to fit in a 400pt list because Lucrehulk-class battleships and Subjugator-class heavy cruisers are almost certainly Huge Ships. I hope that Munificent-class frigates are cheap in points because I want to be able to run 4+ at a time like you see in the Clone Wars episodes.

I agree with you. If I wasn't clear, these are the expansions I plan to buy; I don't anticipate being able to field all of them in a single match. 😊

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Added emoji. ;)

I wouldn't necessarily expect a new core, taking X-Wing 2.0 as precedent. If we get one, my money is on Munificent with 6 vulture squadrons vs Charger C70 and Arquitens with 4 V-19 squadrons, replicating the 1 medium + 6 squadrons vs 2 small +4 squadrons from the original core.

I do however think that faction packs with a medium, a small and a couple of fighters are more likely. So I'd say V-19s, C70 and Acvlamator for the clones and Diamond, Munificent and Vultures for the Droids.

1 hour ago, LennoxPoodle said:

I wouldn't necessarily expect a new core, taking X-Wing 2.0 as precedent. If we get one, my money is on Munificent with 6 vulture squadrons vs Charger C70 and Arquitens with 4 V-19 squadrons, replicating the 1 medium + 6 squadrons vs 2 small +4 squadrons from the original core.

I do however think that faction packs with a medium, a small and a couple of fighters are more likely. So I'd say V-19s, C70 and Acvlamator for the clones and Diamond, Munificent and Vultures for the Droids.

That sounds like the Runewars route. They initially release a core with 2 armies. Later, for the third and fourth factions, they released Army packs and an essentials pack.

The essentials pack was rules, terrain, templates, dice, and no units. Army packs were basically just units and upgrades.

I sure hope the commander is not a droid from the shows but a main villain from the movies. Grievous fits the most I think. Dooku after that.

I can see the droids being a good filing out of the story for commanders, they just don't comprise the same level of badassery that both Grievous and Dooku would provide. Sadly, I don't think asajj was a commander.

3 hours ago, Blail Blerg said:

I sure hope the commander is not a droid from the shows but a main villain from the movies. Grievous fits the most I think. Dooku after that.

I can see the droids being a good filing out of the story for commanders, they just don't comprise the same level of badassery that both Grievous and Dooku would provide. Sadly, I don't think asajj was a commander.

I'm really excited for Armada to expand. TBH, I'm not a huge CW nerd as I am for OT Star Wars, likely because a lot of the games and media I consumed as a kid were always OT related - the video games, the books, the LEGO...

anyway, CW will put on the table a lot more variety and match-ups that will play out in ways I can only imagine right now. I'm not bored with the current state of Armada, but I do have my preferred play styles and favorites for Rebels and Imps, and to learn how to use and adapt my style/favs is probably what I am most looking forward to.

Just to help everyone get into a Prequels mood:

On 4/28/2020 at 5:21 PM, Piratical Moustache said:

Lucrehulk-class battleships and Subjugator-class heavy cruisers are almost certainly Huge Ships.

I'm skeptical. Yes, they're larger than any Large ships we currently have, but they're much, much smaller than the one Huge ship. Even with a sliding scale, I think they'd probably look better Large. Personally, I hope FFG allows the SSD to just stay a unique oddity.

On 4/28/2020 at 4:19 PM, eliteone said:

You'll see a push for both these factions to really specialize in having upgrades that strengthen the 'weaker' commands, like ConFire and Engineering.

I dunno about that - the capital ships of the Clone Wars era tended to be somewhat more fighter oriented than in the GCW didn’t they?

A lot of people seem to expect that if there’s a Clone Wars Core Set it’ll be asymmetrical, size-wise, like the original. I’m not convinced. In the original box the asymmetry reflected that of the forces - the Empire and the Rebellion weren’t evenly matched, the Rebellion didn’t have a proper navy of dedicated warships. In the Clone Wars both sides do.

As for commanders, I predict Windu and Dooku. The logic being the Clone Wars starts with Attack of the Clones, and they’re the ones we see leading the respective forces in that film.

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For commanders off the bat my predictions:

separatists: Trench, Grievous, Durd in addition to those announced

republic: Anakin, windu, yoda in addition to announced.

Other named cards: plo kloon, anakin, kenobi(all aces), Asoka,

gonna be hard to finds separatist aces or unique officers except the commanders.

9 hours ago, Packerman29 said:

For commanders off the bat my predictions:

separatists: Trench, Grievous, Durd in addition to those announced

republic: Anakin, windu, yoda in addition to announced.

Other named cards: plo kloon, anakin, kenobi(all aces), Asoka,

gonna be hard to finds separatist aces or unique officers except the commanders.

Maybe Ventress, Darth Maul?

I could see Maul as an Ace that uses Raid & Cloak, similiar to Kanan. Or maybe a reverse cloak; "After you cloak, if you did not attack this round, you may perform an attack" - give him Bomber with black/blue.

Ventress...I really don't know, officer slot? Maybe she could work similair to RHB and RLB, she always likes a good ambush. "You may set aside 1 squadron on this card. When a friendly squadron at distance 1-4 is destroyed, you may discard this card and place the set aside squadron within distance 1 of the destroyed squadron."