I can think of fewer things in my childhood that still give me as much joy today, as watching Wedge and Lando blow the **** out of the Deathstar 2. And knowing all those Impies died horribly in space.
And if the debris rained down and destroyed the Ewoks, they wouldn't have been dancing along to their Yub-Yub song in celebration of defeating the Emperor's finest troops, and helping destroy the Empire.
Edited by coastcityo29 minutes ago, coastcityo said:I can think of fewer things in my childhood that still give me as much joy today, as watching Wedge and Lando blow the **** out of the Deathstar 2. And knowing all those Impies died horribly in space.
And if the debris rained down and destroyed the Ewoks, they wouldn't have been dancing along to their Yub-Yub song in celebration of defeating the Emperor's finest troops, and helping destroy the Empire.
Simple. The debris was bombarding the other side of the planet, and the Ewoks aren't quite doomed... yet.
Though it will be a more painful end than the Imperial deep-space vaporization.
Grumbleduke's excellent link:
On 4/20/2020 at 12:45 PM, Grumbleduke said:I'll just leave this here .
On 4/20/2020 at 7:43 PM, xanderf said:Not even that - space appears to be almost breathable, there, with a mask (citation: asteroid scene in ESB when the Falcon crew thought they were walking around on an asteroid).
Still, that doesn't necessarily preclude it being our universe - just a galaxy of unusually dense gases, that never expanded to the point where 'space' ends up the vacuum it is in ours.
Technically they are inside a worm at that time, not just on an asteroid
On 4/27/2020 at 9:25 AM, DScipio said:The Long range guns "arc" because the writers suck. So how do we solve that? Right: The new 3 Movies just dont exist. Disney canon is Disney canon, no Star Wars Fan can or should accept it (because nothing makes Sense anymore with the new canon)
They would arc in the presence of a strong gravity field. They were approaching a planet. This is the same barest of handwaving given to a lot of other sci-fi so people can relax and enjoy it
Its also possible they originally made the shots go straight, but something looked wrong or unnatural in the shots, so the effects were redone with blasts that arc.
Saying “the writers suck” is too simplistic.
That being said, I never cared for the arcing either.
Blaming the writers is madness either-way.
Does anyone think a writer puts in the script: Exterior. Battlefield. Lots of Mud. Oh, and blazing laser shots are arcing through the sky like a mortar or something. I'm going for a real World War One kind of vibe.
Surely the blame must rest with the Director and the creators of the visual effects?
We're talking Solo, right?
If the enemy are entrenched (which seems to be the case) then having weapons that fire in straight lines would be unhelpful. If you are bombarding trenches you need some kind of ordnance that falls from above. Presumably the defenders have some kind of shield over their heads, which prevents orbital bombardment. So some kind of "laser-mortar" needs to be used - it can be deployed under the shield, then used to bombard the trenches nearby.
In Phantom we see the gungans use "laser catapults" - some kind of force field containing a ball of energy that has some kind of mass. Why can't the imperial ground forces have something similar?
On 4/27/2020 at 9:25 AM, DScipio said:The Long range guns "arc" because the writers suck. So how do we solve that? Right: The new 3 Movies just dont exist. Disney canon is Disney canon, no Star Wars Fan can or should accept it (because nothing makes Sense anymore with the new canon)
Sorry, but this is an asinine statement. There are plenty of things to dislike with the sequel trilogy and how Disney has handled it (just like there were issues with the prequel trilogy/just like there were with the special edition of the originals), and there's a way to have a discussion about it.
Encouraging fans to just ignore it and not accept it is just being toxic for toxicity sake.
Everyone gets it: the Original Trilogy is the best. But Star Wars is bigger than the Original (unaltered) Trilogy.
And if you were being sarcastic/ironic, and I simply misread, totally my bad.
Even if the Death Star chunks were towed to a safe orbit (or at least an orbit that really only sucked for the OTHER moon to travel into), there's absolutely no way that Endor wasn't bombarded by all the parts of the section facing Endor. It was all essentially rocket-propelled in all directions by the blast. It would have hit the moon at around the same time as the blast wave or just afterwards, meaning that ships towing pieces away would be in the blast wave, too.
At least in A New Hope they could have evacuated the base on the moon before it orbited around Yavin and into/through the debris field.
It's like believing it's possible that the mothership from Independence day blew up without raining down all over Earth, rather than the conveniently stable debris orbit from the second movie, and how all the 10-mile wide city-destroyers didn't just fall the 1/4 mile straight down onto the cities like gravity would cause, rather than gently shifting sideways into perfectly safe locations (except all those nearby locations are likely going to be densely populated suburbs, too).
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3 hours ago, SithLrd88 said:Sorry, but this is an asinine statement. There are plenty of things to dislike with the sequel trilogy and how Disney has handled it (just like there were issues with the prequel trilogy/just like there were with the special edition of the originals), and there's a way to have a discussion about it.
In my experience, that's been a hard thing to do even offline . Some of the most heated discussions I've seen among normally calm, likeable people were over the sequels. Like, almost to blows.
It's worse than politics or religion for some.
Which isn't to say I support the "shun Disney canon" school of thought. It's just best for people to keep their mouths shut about the whole thing until 5 or 10 years pass and things aren't taken so seriously. Which is what most of the more moderate viewpoints do anyway.
3 hours ago, LTD said:We're talking Solo, right?
No, this was The Last Jedi; during the space-chase sequence the long-range shots from the First Order fleet to the Resistance arc. In space. Far from planets.
Had it been on the ground, that would be fine; we don't know how Star Wars's energy weapons work, no reason why they shouldn't be affected by gravity.
Plus, in the case of TLJ, blaming the director over the writer doesn't help.
Still, it's no Moonraker. As far as films completely failing to understand space physics, that one is spectacular.