Hey- I was thinking about the salad approach to list building and how much I think Ember is a cool pilot. That let me to gather a bunch of i4’s in the First order and put together this.

FOurs

(52) "Ember" [TIE/ba Interceptor]
(3) Elusive
Points: 55

(39) "Backdraft" [TIE/sf Fighter]
(2) Fanatical
(4) Advanced Optics
Points: 45

(33) "Scorch" [TIE/fo Fighter]
(2) Fanatical
(4) Advanced Optics
Points: 39

(57) "Recoil" [TIE/vn Silencer]
(2) Predator
Points: 59

Total points: 198

Each one of these ships throws three red dice with fair consistency and has the tools to mod the effectively. One consideration was taking adv optics off of Backdraft or Scorch in order to give Ember pattern analyzer. Thoughts?

Also, there’s a clever fire based name for this squad that I’m missing if someone could help me out. Thanks!

7 hours ago, urbanyeti said:

Also, there’s a clever fire based name for this squad that I’m missing if someone could help me out. Thanks!

Recoil from the Fiery Backdraft?

i would remove fanatical from backdraft and optics from scorch.

then i would asses, having 63 points free, to remove ember to put vonreg

2 hours ago, Manolox said:

i would remove fanatical from backdraft and optics from scorch.

then i would asses, having 63 points free, to remove ember to put vonreg

Probably that'd be a better list, but then it wouldn't be FOurs. This list is kind of a gimmick list of forgotten mid-init FO aces, and swapping to Vonreg--while it makes the list better--probably doesn't really satisfy the same itch.

On 4/2/2020 at 3:54 PM, urbanyeti said:

Each one of these ships throws three red dice with fair consistency and has the tools to mod the effectively. One consideration was taking adv optics off of Backdraft or Scorch in order to give Ember pattern analyzer. Thoughts?

I don't necessarily like Optics on Scorch (I think he's a little too squishy), but I'm not necessarily putting PA on Ember. Personally, I'd cut Recoil for the generic First Order Test pilot with Fanatical. I think it's better and cheaper than Recoil at the same Init, even if it is a bit less interesting. But I guess it wouldn't be cheaper either, since I'd put the Optics I took off of Scorch onto the FOTP. 😛

I've only put in like one game with Pre-Coil, but it felt a lot harder to use that talent than Fanatical typically is on the FOTP. Personally, I enjoy the FOTP more, but to each their own.

Anyhow, the overall list as it stands in how I'd fly it, but there's kind of a few too many points, 3 for me in how I've built it. I kinda lean along with @Manolox that I might not stick with Fanatical on Backdraft. Always seems like it takes too long to activate on SFs, IMHO. So now it's 5 points. That could be Pattern Analyzer on Ember, but I guess I'm not really into Ember with Red moves. To each their own. Maybe I'd bust out an oddball that's inappropriately tempting to me: Trick Shot on Backdraft. I can never get those obstructed shots to work, but in the immortal words of Tinkmaster Overspark: This Time For Sure!

Bitterfig nailed it. It is all about the goofball, the left behinds, the losers (except scorch and backdraft, they’re pretty good). I agree with keeping it light on scorch and BD that frees up some points. Elusive/pattern analyzer on ember is my attempt to compensate for the BA’s propensity for exploding and I also like the reds on the BA dial. That 5k opens a lot of space.

Lot to think about. I could drop recoil (who I like, the ability is not bad) for Cpt Cardinal because apparently they exists as well. Or Striden.