Having done a bit of research as I have been having fun designing ships, I have discovered that it would be pretty easy to make Scum more than just a catch-all faction. There are 3 large criminal organizations that could be quite easily represented as sub-factions, and moreover, open up some design space for sub-faction specific ships:

Black Sun:

• CloakShape fighter
• Ixiyen-class fast attack craft
• Kihraxz-class light fighter (technically, this ship is EXCLUSIVE to the Black Sun syndicate}
• Vaksai
• Rihkxyrk-class assault fighter
• StarViper-class attack platform
• Supa Fighter
• Y-wing starfighters
• Z-95 Headhunter

Hutt Cartel:

• Alpha-3 Nimbus V-Wing starfighter
• CloakShape fighter
• G1-M4-C Dunelizard fighter
• HH-87 Starhopper
• Intruder-class starfighter
• M12-L Kimogila Heavy
• M22-T Krayt Gunship
• M3-A Scyk Fighter
• Skyfighter
• Y-wing starfighters
• Z-95 Headhunter

Zann Consortium:

• StarViper-class attack platform (equipped with buzz droids)
• StarViper M-2 fighters
• Skipray Blastboat
• TIE/LN starfighter (originally Empire)
• TIE/sa bomber (originally Empire)
• TIE/D Defender (originally Empire)
• A-Wing (originally Rebel)
• Rihkxyrk Assault Fighter

The Zann stuff would be kinda crazy fun in terms of mixing up a bunch of stuff that is traditionally unaffiliated with each other.

It would seem like a great project that could be a card pack that re-organizes the existing ships into the new sub-factions, supported by brand new ship releases.

and then there's bounty hunters, pirates, mandalorians, and minor criminal enterprises/families/cartels(like the crymorah).

I'd think this thing better accomplished with some sort of squadron mechanics/keywords instead of going full on "new" factions. This sort of thing is what I thought we'd see from future card packs.

2 minutes ago, Frimmel said:

I'd think this thing better accomplished with some sort of squadron mechanics/keywords instead of going full on "new" factions. This sort of thing is what I thought we'd see from future card packs.

So, my intention was sub-factions (which is how I stated it above}. However, I just was having too much fun with the card creator and made "faction-style" cards because I felt like it.

Still, you would want to do something about the Zann Consortium so as not to make A-Wings, TIEs, et. al. suddenly Scum ships.

4 minutes ago, Cerebrawl said:

and then there's bounty hunters, pirates, mandalorians, and minor criminal enterprises/families/cartels(like the crymorah).

The Mandalorian certainly would allow FFG to flesh out a Bounty Hunter's Guild.

And just for pirating fun, I was working on DIY stuff:

Maybe add "Black Sun" keywords to some pilots in Scum. Ex. A general Kihraxz, and also one that's specifically Black Sun. Then, add titles/pilot abilities that only work with Black Sun so that anyone can run a Kihraxz, but Black Sun has a better version and some good unique pilots with Black Sun synergies, such as something like Gavin Darklighter but only for Black Sun ships. Each faction could get a specific sub-theme, like a lot of Hutt Cartel pilots having extra illicit slots or having Weapon Hardpoint while the general scum versions do not to emphasize their cartel smuggling and heavily modified ships.

I do love this whole concept. I don't see it ever arriving as deep and glorious as it could be, but still.

3 hours ago, Darth Meanie said:

So, my intention was sub-factions (which is how I stated it above}. However, I just was having too much fun with the card creator and made "faction-style" cards because I felt like it.

Fair enough. Shouldn't have took a leek in your Cheerios. 🍺

4 hours ago, Darth Meanie said:

Intruder-class starfighter

Iirc this design is absolutely ancient. As in pre-Darth Revan ancient.

1 hour ago, Hiemfire said:

Iirc this design is absolutely ancient. As in pre-Darth Revan ancient.

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Intruder-class_starfighter

Plenty of latitude for design on that one!!

47 minutes ago, Hiemfire said:

Iirc this design is absolutely ancient. As in pre-Darth Revan ancient.

Nah, about 1k BBY, while Revan was almost 4k BBY. Still ancient by the time of the galactic civil war though.

There's some really cool ships that are older. Like the Liberator-class, Spearpoint, FT-6 Pike, etc. (Those 3 are all galactic republic though).

3 hours ago, Cuz05 said:

I do love this whole concept. I don't see it ever arriving as deep and glorious as it could be, but still.

Yeah.

Still, it would be a great Card Pack + Model idea. Once a year, come up with one of the missing ship designs, and couple it with a card pack that plays with the idea of one of the sub-factions and existing models. Then do it again the next year for a new sub-faction.

It would be a great way to Make Old New Again.

I can dream. Walt said so.

9 hours ago, Darth Meanie said:

Having done a bit of research as I have been having fun designing ships, I have discovered that it would be pretty easy to make Scum more than just a catch-all faction. There are 3 large criminal organizations that could be quite easily represented as sub-factions, and moreover, open up some design space for sub-faction specific ships:

Black Sun:

• CloakShape fighter
• Ixiyen-class fast attack craft
• Kihraxz-class light fighter (technically, this ship is EXCLUSIVE to the Black Sun syndicate}
• Vaksai
• Rihkxyrk-class assault fighter
• StarViper-class attack platform
• Supa Fighter
• Y-wing starfighters
• Z-95 Headhunter

Hutt Cartel:

• Alpha-3 Nimbus V-Wing starfighter
• CloakShape fighter
• G1-M4-C Dunelizard fighter
• HH-87 Starhopper
• Intruder-class starfighter
• M12-L Kimogila Heavy
• M22-T Krayt Gunship
• M3-A Scyk Fighter
• Skyfighter
• Y-wing starfighters
• Z-95 Headhunter

Zann Consortium:

• StarViper-class attack platform (equipped with buzz droids)
• StarViper M-2 fighters
• Skipray Blastboat
• TIE/LN starfighter (originally Empire)
• TIE/sa bomber (originally Empire)
• TIE/D Defender (originally Empire)
• A-Wing (originally Rebel)
• Rihkxyrk Assault Fighter

The Zann stuff would be kinda crazy fun in terms of mixing up a bunch of stuff that is traditionally unaffiliated with each other.

It would seem like a great project that could be a card pack that re-organizes the existing ships into the new sub-factions, supported by brand new ship releases.

Where the **** did these stats come from? Supa Fighters have FAR more than 2 firepower and Dunelizards are basically Hutt X-Wings.

IMO if Scum are going to be viable for future expansions, they will need to be split up. For the same reasons they split up Resistance and First Order, they will have a much easier time in game design if they dont have to continuously check back on pilots from Wave 4 1.0 to see if they are OP.

How will they do it? No idea, Scum were my go to faction for a long time, I would love to get them back on the table.

39 minutes ago, KCDodger said:

Where the **** did these stats come from? Supa Fighters have FAR more than 2 firepower and Dunelizards are basically Hutt X-Wings.

Wow, if those pissed him off, this will really kink his hose. Then again, he seems to want everything to have 3 attack. . .

30 minutes ago, Darth Meanie said:

Wow, if those pissed him off, this will really kink his hose. Then again, he seems to want everything to have 3 attack. . .

Ok, criticize her if you want, but don't misgender her.

5 hours ago, Darth Meanie said:

Wow, if those pissed him off, this will really kink his hose. Then again, he seems to want everything to have 3 attack. . .

Her, thank you.

4 hours ago, gryffindorhouse said:

Ok, criticize her if you want, but don't misgender her.

YO THANKS! You rock!

9 hours ago, Cerebrawl said:

and then there's bounty hunters, pirates, mandalorians, and minor criminal enterprises/families/cartels(like the crymorah).

Those are the Villainy faction ...

1 hour ago, KCDodger said:

Her, thank you.

YO THANKS! You rock!

Sorry. I had no idea. 😞

4 hours ago, Darth Meanie said:

Sorry. I had no idea. 😞

You are excused my friend.

21 hours ago, Darth Meanie said:

Sorry. I had no idea. 😞

When one does not say if they are him or her it’s our natural state to assume the person is the same sex as us. Also given the ratio of female to male players it makes this assumption feel all the more natural.

On 4/2/2020 at 9:48 PM, Archangelspiv said:

When one does not say if they are him or her it’s our natural state to assume the person is the same sex as us. Also given the ratio of female to male players it makes this assumption feel all the more natural.

I mean I always just use they/them when I don't know.