Just ran into a strange situation. YASB 2.0 is showing a cost of 8 points for VTG whereas FFG is showing 10 points. Anyone else notice this?

Ya might be on a older variation of YASB. Just checked and it still comes up 10 for me.

1 hour ago, KiraYamatoSF said:

Ya might be on a older variation of YASB. Just checked and it still comes up 10 for me.

How can that be? Aren't you directed to the latest version when you log in? The only change made was having to reset my password. Numbnuts here accidentally erased it.

You are right! Went in and re-tagged the site and I'm getting the correct point cost. Strange.

21 minutes ago, Stoneface said:

How can that be? Aren't you directed to the latest version when you log in? The only change made was having to reset my password. Numbnuts here accidentally erased it.

You are right! Went in and re-tagged the site and I'm getting the correct point cost. Strange.

Somebody within this past week used a link from Vassal and it took him to a older version of YASB. So you definitely aren't the only one who gets this kind of issue.

There's sort of two YASB 2.0:

• https://raithos.github.io is the standard version, uses the current points.
• However, because it's handy whenever there is an update, there is also https://raithos.github.io/old/ which uses the last update's points.

I'll tell you what the cost is: Never worth it without a way to get double mods.

Just now, KCDodger said:

I'll tell you what the cost is: Never worth it without a way to get double mods.

Now this is a poster after my heart.

3 hours ago, Blail Blerg said:

Now this is a poster after my heart.

It just isn't worth anything! Ooh, you can shoot twice, very cool- have fun with that null result. Now it's viable if you have perceptive copilot but how many ships can take a turret, VTG, perceptive, AND make it worth using all of those at once, JUST to get off two reliable shots? For those points you can drag along two ships with the same dice and much easier mods.

VTG sucks an entire ***.

1 hour ago, KCDodger said:

It just isn't worth anything! Ooh, you can shoot twice, very cool- have fun with that null result. Now it's viable if you have perceptive copilot but how many ships can take a turret, VTG, perceptive, AND make it worth using all of those at once, JUST to get off two reliable shots? For those points you can drag along two ships with the same dice and much easier mods.

VTG sucks an entire ***.

My same thought after trying it on res bomber. Yes you can add per cop but after vtg it’s already too expensive.

The problem is that it’s effect is extraordinary good. It’s kind of a multiplicative effect and it’s benched by lack of easy double mods. If something changes it becomes so irritating goodly that you’ll wish we never had the upgrade in the first place.

I fee fee like we should simply restrict vtg to non limited pilots to avoid silly combo wings. Then you get cool generics.

And you can price or watch the faction specific versions like Bistan with a keener eye.

8 hours ago, Blail Blerg said:

I fee fee like we should simply restrict vtg to non limited pilots to avoid silly combo wings. Then you get cool generics.

It's like you actually want turrets to be good!

6 hours ago, Blail Blerg said:

I fee fee like we should simply restrict vtg to non limited pilots to avoid silly combo wings. Then you get cool generics

DreadLoks was out this time last year. Drea didn't have VTG. It caused a **** storm an a half...

4 hours ago, Hiemfire said:

DreadLoks was out this time last year. Drea didn't have VTG. It caused a **** storm an a half...

Good point.

But then again 5Y VTG was a thing before too. So should any of those be possible?

5 hours ago, KCDodger said:

It's like you actually want turrets to be good!

You do not seriously think I could resist the unlimited firepower of multiple attacks could you?

4 hours ago, Blail Blerg said:

You do not seriously think I could resist the unlimited firepower of multiple attacks could you?

Of course not. Who can?