8 hours ago, Church14 said:

Only the aces are any good

Isn’t that what we already have? #sarcasm

Eh, I don’t think it’s problematic for a generic to get defense tokens per se. Like I said, I’m a little wary about masses of Scatter tokens, but that’s an issue that could be dealt with, or simply avoided.

Remember, anything is balanced if costed correctly.

1 hour ago, Cpt ObVus said:

Eh, I don’t think it’s problematic for a generic to get defense tokens per se. Like I said, I’m a little wary about masses of Scatter tokens, but that’s an issue that could be dealt with, or simply avoided.

Remember, anything is balanced if costed correctly.

The problem with generics having defense tokens is that they're represented by a single card, so there's no way to tell which squadron the defense token belongs to.

6 hours ago, Formynder4 said:

The problem with generics having defense tokens is that they're represented by a single card, so there's no way to tell which squadron the defense token belongs to.

That’s true. Hadn’t considered that.

7 hours ago, Formynder4 said:

The problem with generics having defense tokens is that they're represented by a single card, so there's no way to tell which squadron the defense token belongs to.

You could do a shared pool, a single brace for one kind of generic squadron. Maybe Scatter for the faster lower hull ones?

Also make a generic offcier:

"When you activate a generic squadron, you may exhaust this card. If the first squadron you activate does not have a [Brace] token, it gains a [Brace] token."

3 hours ago, eliteone said:

You could do a shared pool, a single brace for one kind of generic squadron. Maybe Scatter for the faster lower hull ones?

Also make a generic offcier:

"When you activate a generic squadron, you may exhaust this card. If the first squadron you activate does not have a [Brace] token, it gains a [Brace] token."

You could simplify that down to an upgrade that comes with a defense token that is worded similar to Jan.

”Place one brace token on this card. When a friendly squadron at distance 1-2 is defending, they may use this token as if it were their own.”

You could specialize it further maybe, making it only apply to 4 hull or less squadrons or ones with a Specific keyword.

16 hours ago, Formynder4 said:

The problem with generics having defense tokens is that they're represented by a single card, so there's no way to tell which squadron the defense token belongs to.

Ohey! I was Ninja'd! 😄

6 hours ago, Church14 said:

You could simplify that down to an upgrade that comes with a defense token that is worded similar to Jan.

”Place one brace token on this card. When a friendly squadron at distance 1-2 is defending, they may use this token as if it were their own.”

You could specialize it further maybe, making it only apply to 4 hull or less squadrons or ones with a Specific keyword.

That would be cool - then you could have a ton of flexibility, similiar to the 'Command Fixer' officers,

One to give a brace to generic squads with Escort and / or Grit

One to give an evade to generic sqauds with Swarm (and text that states: this token may be used to cancel one die at distance X when defending against a squadron/ship)

etc etc. it can be played around with but that would be a cool idea.

I’m late to the party on this, but I feel making a new thread wouldn’t be appropriate. I noticed a couple of weeks back while rewatching the Gencon 2020 In Flight Report that while showing off the republic starter art of Plo Koon was shown on one of the images shown, and Admiral Trench was shown on one of the CIS images. The original post on this thread shows off Kenobi and Kracken as admiral cards, which many seem to think means that they (Kenobi and Kracken) are going to be THE admirals in the starter boxes. However, after noticing Trench and Plo Koon in the IFR I began to wonder if each starter would come with two admirals. What do you guys think? I’m not really an active player as there isn’t a SWA group in my area, but I do have the original starter and to me it makes some sense to me that with single faction starters that there would be more customization in each faction’s starter to make the price point and to encourage fleet building in new players

I’ll link the IFR here, but I don’t know how to link the vids with time stamps so you’ll have to scroll to the time yourselves (sorry). Plo Koon- 13:47, Admiral Trench- 14:56

22 hours ago, redleader002 said:

I’m late to the party on this, but I feel making a new thread wouldn’t be appropriate. I noticed a couple of weeks back while rewatching the Gencon 2020 In Flight Report that while showing off the republic starter art of Plo Koon was shown on one of the images shown, and Admiral Trench was shown on one of the CIS images. The original post on this thread shows off Kenobi and Kracken as admiral cards, which many seem to think means that they (Kenobi and Kracken) are going to be THE admirals in the starter boxes. However, after noticing Trench and Plo Koon in the IFR I began to wonder if each starter would come with two admirals. What do you guys think? I’m not really an active player as there isn’t a SWA group in my area, but I do have the original starter and to me it makes some sense to me that with single faction starters that there would be more customization in each faction’s starter to make the price point and to encourage fleet building in new players

I’ll link the IFR here, but I don’t know how to link the vids with time stamps so you’ll have to scroll to the time yourselves (sorry). Plo Koon- 13:47, Admiral Trench- 14:56

We know now from the German rulebooks put up that Plo Koon is a Delta-7 ace. It’s not impossible, but I highly doubt FFG would put a commander that is also a unique squad in the first wave or two. CIS and GAR are going to be strapped for options initially as it is

Also, at least for the Republic, we saw the spoiled Obi-Wan Commander on Discord and then Bail Organa Commander in the republic starter pack article. Separatist-wise, we only know Kraken.

On 10/25/2020 at 11:00 AM, Church14 said:

We know now from the German rulebooks put up that Plo Koon is a Delta-7 ace. It’s not impossible, but I highly doubt FFG would put a commander that is also a unique squad in the first wave or two. CIS and GAR are going to be strapped for options initially as it is

Perhaps for Plo Koon, but the German leaks also revealed that Anakin Skywalker is the Y-Wing Ace, and I think the odds of Anakin being the Commander in the Wave 2 Venator expansion are very high . I think it's 75% Anakin, 20% Admiral Wullf Yularen, and 5% anyone else.

Darth Vader was the Commander in the ISD expansion, so it's only fitting that Anakin would be in the Venator expansion. And early in Armada's life cycle, there was the exact same problem of Darth Vader being a squadron ace in Wave 1's Imp Fighter Squadrons I and a Commander in Wave 2's large ship. I don't think that will stop FFG from doing it.

Plo Koon definitely should be a Republic Commander, but I'm glad he's a Delta-7 Ace first.

Regarding the Republic and Separatists' lack of Commander options early on, the main cause of this problem is that FFG is not releasing ship expansions for the two ships in the faction Fleet Starters in Wave 1. They did with the original Core set in Wave 1, but inexplicably not this time. Even with the 2 Commanders in the Fleet Starters, the Republic and Separatists are being shorted 1 Commander in Wave 1, which is a lot worse this time because they could be facing the Empire or Rebels, which have 13 and 11 Commanders, respectively.

To compensate for this, it would be great if FFG included 2 Commanders in the Wave 2 ship expansions; at least for each large ship expansion.

14 hours ago, Revan Reborn said:

Perhaps for Plo Koon, but the German leaks also revealed that Anakin Skywalker is the Y-Wing Ace, and I think the odds of Anakin being the Commander in the Wave 2 Venator expansion are very high . I think it's 75% Anakin, 20% Admiral Wullf Yularen, and 5% anyone else.

Anakin was everywhere and could really be released on any ship. Yularen was really just the Venator. So i expect Yularen to be in that release.

14 hours ago, Revan Reborn said:

Darth Vader was the Commander in the ISD expansion, so it's only fitting that Anakin would be in the Venator expansion. And early in Armada's life cycle, there was the exact same problem of Darth Vader being a squadron ace in Wave 1's Imp Fighter Squadrons I and a Commander in Wave 2's large ship. I don't think that will stop FFG from doing it.

It’s a different case here. Vader was the ISD commander when both factions had limited options. He came on the ship that opened up Imperial list building too. Now, we have two fleshed out factions and two trying to get up to speed. I see Anakin coming later on the stealth ship. I don’t have a good idea when a Plo Koon commander would be.

32 minutes ago, Church14 said:

Anakin was everywhere and could really be released on any ship. Yularen was really just the Venator. So i expect Yularen to be in that release.

The one exception is if they release a stealth ship, but it seems unlikely they wouldn't have Yularen by wave 2 (when Anakin at least exists as an ace, which is a more iconic role for him.)

5 hours ago, Church14 said:

Anakin was everywhere and could really be released on any ship. Yularen was really just the Venator. So i expect Yularen to be in that release.

There's certainly a chance that Yularen will be the Commander in the Venator expansion, but I'll be surprised if it isn't Anakin. I think FFG will give players every reason to buy the Venator, which includes Commander Anakin Skywalker.

5 hours ago, Church14 said:

It’s a different case here. Vader was the ISD commander when both factions had limited options. He came on the ship that opened up Imperial list building too. Now, we have two fleshed out factions and two trying to get up to speed. I see Anakin coming later on the stealth ship. I don’t have a good idea when a Plo Koon commander would be.

Considering that Clone Wars Waves 1 and 2 cover most of the canon Clone Wars ships, I don't think it will be long wait for the Republic Stealth Ship. I predict Wave 3, or Wave 4, at the latest. Because aside from releasing the Starter-ship expansions -- which may or may not be a Wave -- there's really only the Republic Arquitens and the Stealth Ship left.

Also, Yularen accompanied Anakin aboard the Stealth Ship during the battle versus Admiral Trench, so it could just as easily be Commander Yularen included in the Republic Stealth Ship expansion. IMO it's more likely that FFG will include a lesser known Commander, i.e. Yularen, on a lesser known ship, i.e. the Republic Stealth Ship.

4 hours ago, The Jabbawookie said:

The one exception is if they release a stealth ship, but it seems unlikely they wouldn't have Yularen by wave 2 (when Anakin at least exists as an ace, which is a more iconic role for him.)

If I recall correctly, Anakin only flew the Y-Wing in one episode: Shadow of Malevolence . So I don't consider Y-Wing Ace as being Anakin's "iconic role". Anakin was depicted flying the Delta-7, the Azure Angel (his customized Delta-7), the Twilight, and the Eta-2 Actis more often than the Y-Wing.

I think FFG simply chose the Y-Wing because Anakin was the only Jedi who piloted it in TCW, and the Y-Wing needed an Ace squadron.

On a side note, Ahsoka Tano was Anakin's turret gunner in the Y-Wing for that mission. If Anakin had to be the Y-Wing's Ace, it would've been more thematic to include Ahsoka too, and given their Ace squadron some really powerful abilities. At the very least they should get Counter X.

Technically, all Republic Y-Wings should have Counter X because, unlike the Rebel Y-Wings, they had manned turrets for anti-fighter protection. But it seems like Republic Y-Wings only have Bomber and Heavy, just like the Rebel version.

They're also Hull 6 despite that the Republic Y-Wings have the hullplating, which should provide greater protection than the stripped down Rebel version. It's a little disappointing that FFG didn't make the two bomber squadrons more distinctive from each other.