1 hour ago, Alzer said:

other employees.

LIES!

1 hour ago, Alzer said:

The entire Armada design and implementation team

DECEPTION!

Every day, more lies.

Nobody designs Armada. One day the cards and models just started appearing at FFG HQ; it couldn’t be explained. Smelling an opportunity to exploit the sheeple, FFG packaged and sold the components, along with a cobbled-together ruleset.

But one day, something changed. The flow of components slowed to a trickle, and never in time for the holidays. The formatting for the cards became MEGA NOT GOOD HURTS MY EYES. And some began to see through the lies of the Jedi.

Now, a fledgling Rebel movement is brewing within the unquestioning ranks of support. It falls to them to expose the shocking truth about the wave 9 development process: there isn’t one. There never has been.

The fate of the galaxy rests in their hands...

11 hours ago, Ardaedhel said:

L et me make sure I understand this. You think that Gernes spent Thursday night feverishly drafting and mocking up the core set commander cards because... there was a mad post on the forum?

I could legit see Brookes doing this though tbf

3 hours ago, geek19 said:

It sounds like what you really want is for us all to admit you're both right and truly the only person who knows anything about Armada, kerning, upgrade cards, the motivations of FFG, and that you have a healthy interest in these subjects.

Improving those cards was therapeutic for me. I thought to myself, "I could continue being upset about those wonky cards, venting on the forum, and getting annoyed by all the suck-up sheeple flocking to FFG's defense... Or I could spend a little of my free time and fix them, so they look like the Armada cards that I'm familiar with."

After I completed the latter option, I felt much better. 😁

And I must admit that it is quite gratifying to see that my lack of faith in people was 100% justified.

Is there info about clone wars ships beyond this?

2 minutes ago, Blail Blerg said:

Is there info about clone wars ships beyond this?

Not so far released.

1 hour ago, Reavern said:

Improving those cards was therapeutic for me. I thought to myself, "I could continue being upset about those wonky cards, venting on the forum, and getting annoyed by all the suck-up sheeple flocking to FFG's defense... Or I could spend a little of my free time and fix them, so they look like the Armada cards that I'm familiar with."

After I completed the latter option, I felt much better. 😁

And I must admit that it is quite gratifying to see that my lack of faith in people was 100% justified.

I haven't seen chronic insults like this from one user since the Flotilla Wars. Cut it out, dude.

1 hour ago, Ginkapo said:

I could legit see Brookes doing this though tbf

Nah. Information release is out of the hands of the Dev team. All marketing.

Learned that the hard way when we had Brooks guest on AFFM.

1 hour ago, Reavern said:

Improving those cards was therapeutic for me. I thought to myself, "I could continue being upset about those wonky cards, venting on the forum, and getting annoyed by all the suck-up sheeple flocking to FFG's defense... Or I could spend a little of my free time and fix them, so they look like the Armada cards that I'm familiar with."

After I completed the latter option, I felt much better. 😁

And I must admit that it is quite gratifying to see that my lack of faith in people was 100% justified.

Sheeple? This ain't 4-chan or Infowars mate.

What insider info do you have that we should take any heed of what you say?

Go troll X-Wing and let the rest of us enjoy getting some news.

1 hour ago, Reavern said:

Improving those cards was therapeutic for me. I thought to myself, "I could continue being upset about those wonky cards, venting on the forum, and getting annoyed by all the suck-up sheeple flocking to FFG's defense... Or I could spend a little of my free time and fix them, so they look like the Armada cards that I'm familiar with."

After I completed the latter option, I felt much better. 😁

And I must admit that it is quite gratifying to see that my lack of faith in people was 100% justified.

So your argument is basically these can't possibly be the final abilities because the text doesn't look quite right. Cool. See you at release when the abilities are unchanged.

8 minutes ago, Truthiness said:

So your argument is basically these can't possibly be the final abilities because the text doesn't look quite right. Cool. See you at release when the abilities are unchanged.

Are you illiterate or are you being willfully ignorant?

I previously stated that I believed the abilities described on those 4 upgrade cards are real (although they could be tweaked before printing). However, I've consistently stated that the description text is poorly formatted and aligned -- as if they'd been hastily mocked up overnight by someone other than the professional graphical designer(s) who made all of the previous Armada upgrade cards. I don't believe for a moment when the Clone Wars Armada upgrade cards are printed and released in Q4 2020 ( hopefully , PLEASE make it happen!), those 4 cards will appear identical as they do in the OP of this thread.

Don't bother admitting you were wrong when CWA is released; I don't care now and I'm not going to care then. All I do care about is that Clone Wars Armada's printed upgrade cards look the way they should, which is how they've always looked.

1 hour ago, Blail Blerg said:

Is there info about clone wars ships beyond this?

Unfortunately, no.

All Armada fans were hoping for big news about Clone Wars Armada during the Thursday livestream, since it was in lieu of FFG's presentation for AdeptiCon. Instead, all we got from FFG was 3 art pics from Clone Wars.

FFG has not told us anything about what ships (and squadrons) will be in the Clone Wars Armada core set or released in Wave 1 or 2.

24 minutes ago, Reavern said:

Unfortunately, no.

All Armada fans were hoping for big news about Clone Wars Armada during the Thursday livestream, since it was in lieu of FFG's presentation for AdeptiCon. Instead, all we got from FFG was 3 art pics from Clone Wars.

FFG has not told us anything about what ships (and squadrons) will be in the Clone Wars Armada core set or released in Wave 1 or 2.

Blind guess but I think that the core set will be an Acclamator and 2 Consular cruisers vs 2 Munificent frigates. Wave 2 will be a Venator Star Destroyer vs a Providence carrier/destroyer. The first teaser image was 2 Consulars escorting an Acclamator so that seems like a reasonable bet, and Munificents were the backbone of CIS Navy, they were used in almost every Clone Wars episode.

1 hour ago, Piratical Moustache said:

Blind guess but I think that the core set will be an Acclamator and 2 Consular cruisers vs 2 Munificent frigates. Wave 2 will be a Venator Star Destroyer vs a Providence carrier/destroyer. The first teaser image was 2 Consulars escorting an Acclamator so that seems like a reasonable bet, and Munificents were the backbone of CIS Navy, they were used in almost every Clone Wars episode.

I also saw the Clone Wars teaser pic a month or so ago. I agree it's probable that the CWA core set will include an Acclamator and a Charger C70 corvette (the combat retrofit of the Consular cruiser), but I doubt it will have two C70s (unless they're a flotilla). Two Munificent frigates are possible -- I hope that FFG sells them in pairs, like the Hammerhead Corvettes.

If CWA Wave 1 follows Armada's pattern exactly, it should include a 3rd ship for the Republic and a 2nd for the Separatists, as well as the Fighter Squadron 1 packs for each faction. Ideally, there will be 3 ships per faction. It's unclear what those ships would be if they're not the Venator and Providence. I hope FFG doesn't release Clone Wars versions of any of the existing Armada ships, like the Arquitens or Pelta, in Wave 1 of CWA -- that would be really disappointing. The CIS Recuscant light destroyer is a possibility. It would be great if FFG broke the mold and released the Venator and Providence in Wave 1 because everyone will want them right away.

I would be great if FFG finally informed us of these things with a Clone Wars Armada announcement, rather than making us wait until the end of July for GenCon 2020 -- which is probably going to be cancelled.

2 hours ago, Reavern said:

Are you illiterate or are you being willfully ignorant?

I previously stated that I believed the abilities described on those 4 upgrade cards are real (although they could be tweaked before printing). However, I've consistently stated that the description text is poorly formatted and aligned -- as if they'd been hastily mocked up overnight by someone other than the professional graphical designer(s) who made all of the previous Armada upgrade cards. I don't believe for a moment when the Clone Wars Armada upgrade cards are printed and released in Q4 2020 ( hopefully , PLEASE make it happen!), those 4 cards will appear identical as they do in the OP of this thread.

Don't bother admitting you were wrong when CWA is released; I don't care now and I'm not going to care then. All I do care about is that Clone Wars Armada's printed upgrade cards look the way they should, which is how they've always looked.

Nothing you've been saying makes any sense, so my apologies for not understanding your pointless rambling. You're making ridiculously inflammatory insults over...what? The formating being different? Why are you so obsessed with this?

3 minutes ago, Truthiness said:

Nothing you've been saying makes any sense, so my apologies for not understanding your pointless rambling. You're making ridiculously inflammatory insults over...what? The formating being different? Why are you so obsessed with this?

"Some men aren't looking for anything logical, like card previews . They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the forums burn.”

24 minutes ago, Admiral Calkins said:

"Some men aren't looking for anything logical, like card previews . They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the forums burn.”

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1 hour ago, Truthiness said:

Nothing you've been saying makes any sense, so my apologies for not understanding your pointless rambling. You're making ridiculously inflammatory insults over...what? The formating being different? Why are you so obsessed with this?

"One of these things is not like the others. One of these things doesn't belong. Can you tell which thing is not like the other...?"

2 minutes ago, Reavern said:

"One of these things is not like the others. One of these things doesn't belong. Can you tell which thing is not like the other...?"

Obi-Wan Kenobi because I'm pretty sure he is for a faction that hasn't been released yet...

9 minutes ago, Reavern said:

"One of these things is not like the others. One of these things doesn't belong. Can you tell which thing is not like the other...?"

I refer you to your earlier post, and ask that you take your own advice.

On 3/28/2020 at 1:15 AM, Reavern said:

thank you 🙂

12 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:

I refer you to your earlier post, and ask that you take your own advice.

thank you 🙂

Interesting. I expected Grievous to be core. If Kraken is core, then Grievous will probably be on the Malevolence or Invisible Hand expansions

29 minutes ago, Reavern said:

"One of these things is not like the others. One of these things doesn't belong. Can you tell which thing is not like the other...?"

The artwork tells the story of this thread. In the midst of an explosive reveal Tarkin notices something amiss. Dodonna strains to recall whether a commander icon exists. Are these new cards authentic? Obi-Wan, deep in thought, reviewing his physical cards. Commander Cody carefully measuring proportion, word count, and font. Finally Screed, in a great triumph, is certain he has ascertained the truth. The card designs are an old design but they check out.

In all fairness, though, the images of the cards are noticeably different. In width, and formatting.

That doesn’t clearly mean anything, and it’s not justification for the indecent behavior, but it is true.

34 minutes ago, Muelmuel said:

Interesting. I expected Grievous to be core. If Kraken is core, then Grievous will probably be on the Malevolence or Invisible Hand expansions

That's an interesting hypothesis of the meaning behind those 4 cards.

It would be surprising that the CWA core set included Kraken as the CIS Commander instead of a more popular character, like General Grievous, Count Dooku, or Admiral Trench.

Then again, the Armada core set had General Dodonna, so there is precedence for this.

My prediction is that since General Grievous and Count Dooku are both associated with the Invisible Hand (Providence-class destroyer/carrier), Grievous is more likely to be the CIS Commander that will come with the Malevolence (Subjugator-class heavy cruiser), and Dooku will be the CIS Commander included with the Providence.

Unfortunately, that could mean we'll be waiting for Grievous for a while, because I can't imagine FFG will release the Subjugator in Wave 1 or 2. There are more recognizable Separatist ships, which are more likely for Waves 1 and 2. Also, the Subjugator will presumably be at least as large and expensive ($$) as a Starhawk, so I doubt they'll be releasing that one very soon -- as much as we'd want it and gladly pay for it. 😁 My prediction is the Lucrehulk will be released before the Subjugator -- and Nute Gunray seems like the obvious choice for Commander of that ship expansion.

Therefore, we'll probably see Grievous as a Fighter Squadron Ace sooner than we'll seen him as a Commander. Perhaps also a Grievous Board Party, probably with the Recuscant light destroyer.

Although, it's possible that FFG will choose not to make the Commanders thematic with the Clone Wars ship expansions. I suppose they could include Grievous with the Munificent star frigate. That would be a logical choice since the Munificent is practically guaranteed to be in Wave 1, and Grievous is arguably the most anticipated CIS Commander.

1 minute ago, Reavern said:

Although, it's possible that FFG will choose not to make the Commanders thematic with the Clone Wars ship expansion. I suppose they could include Grievous with the Munificent star frigate. That would be a logical choice since the Munificent is practically guaranteed to be in Wave 1, and Grievous is arguably the most anticipated CIS Commander.

He also used one as his flagship, briefly.

There are a lot of options for Grievous, and it would be surprising for the first seen CIS commander, purpose built for the role in and out of universe, to wait long.

1 minute ago, The Jabbawookie said:

He also used one as his flagship, briefly.

There are a lot of options for Grievous, and it would be surprising for the first seen CIS commander, purpose built for the role in and out of universe, to wait long.

I'm certain Grievous was on a Munificent in multiple episodes of TCW. I recall the one wherein Anakin deployed AT-TEs on asteroids and shot Grievous' Munificents in the rear. Grievous was also on a Munificent for the Battle of Rishi Moon and subsequent Battle of Kamino.

I agree and would be shocked if General Grievous (Commander) wasn't released in Wave 1.

The question is: What CIS Commander would be included with the Malevolence (Subjugator), if not General Grievous? I can't think of any other character who'd be thematic. It might end up being an unrelated CIS Commander, sorta like how Motti was in the Victory Star Destroyer ship expansion and Tagge was in the Imperial Assault Carriers expansion.

Of course, this is all assuming that FFG releases the Subjugator at all. It could be a challenging plastic miniature to manufacture, akin to the SSD.