Signature allies are some of the strongest cards in the game so to reduce it to just a wild resource is actually pretty big deal. Also, in this specific case, Captain Marvel's best deck imo, is Avengers Leadership which needs Spiderwoman as an Avengers Ally.

That said, the ally is really only important if you care about min-maxing. And if you care about min-maxing then you are probably fine with picking a different hero. If you are a casual group and people are just playing their favorite hero, then your signature ally becoming a resource really isn't going to matter.

It would be nice to see a replacement card because otherwise, I would rather pick a different hero than play the 2 together but that doesn't really bother me and I really can't see them doing it.

Maybe they’ll create “replacement cards” for heroes like they did in Arkham. It could be a way to fix bad heroes like thor as well.

What if the hero’s Alter Ego name differed in some way from the ally subtitle? That would make them playable together, right?

Just now, Palpster said:

What if the hero’s Alter Ego name differed in some way from the ally subtitle? That would make them playable together, right?

But... they’re not gonna do it? It’s definitely still Jessica Drew on that art, so she’ll still be Jessica Drew.

3 hours ago, zeromage said:

Maybe they’ll create “replacement cards” for heroes like they did in Arkham. It could be a way to fix bad heroes like thor as well.

Thor is a fantastic hero with strong abilities and very powerful signature cards.

1 hour ago, SpiderMana said:

But... they’re not gonna do it? It’s definitely still Jessica Drew on that art, so she’ll still be Jessica Drew.

But if they mention “Jessie Drew” or “Ms. Jessica Drew” that would still work 🤷🏼‍♂️

5 minutes ago, Palpster said:

But if they mention “Jessie Drew” or “Ms. Jessica Drew” that would still work 🤷🏼‍♂️

That would defeat the purpose of using subtitles/alter-ego names. The whole point of that system is to avoid having multiples of the same person on the table at once.

There is absolutely nothing stopping you from playing with two Jessica Drew cards at once, if you want. It’s a Co-op game, House-ruling things is totally fine. But the game is not currently designed to have two versions of Jessica Drew on the table at once, regardless of what nickname you feel like giving her.

That’s fair, I guess. We’ll just have to wait and see then.

How would the people who are concerned about this feel if FFG made an official ruling that a hero and ally version of the same character can be in play at the same time (but not two allies or two heroes with the same name)? They could call it the Multiverse Rule or something. Would that fix the issue in your eyes or still be problematic?

29 minutes ago, 2morrow said:

How would the people who are concerned about this feel if FFG made an official ruling that a hero and ally version of the same character can be in play at the same time (but not two allies or two heroes with the same name)? They could call it the Multiverse Rule or something. Would that fix the issue in your eyes or still be problematic?

They aren’t gonna do this. There’s no reason for them to do this. There’s nothing stopping you from playing this way yourself.

The thing some people are completely ignoring is that Spiderwoman is good for Captain Marvel in solo play only! And only in leadership at that. Which should tell people she’s not actually that good unless you can constantly get her back with Make the Call because she wouldn’t normal stick around that much.

In multiplayer her value is lessened because you have an entire other player and their deck working with you! The value lost for Captain Marvel is microscopic compared to gaining a new hero and their 15 signature cards. And the same would be true for Spiderwoman with a Captain Marvel signature ally.

11 minutes ago, Hyperjayman said:

The thing some people are completely ignoring is that Spiderwoman is good for Captain Marvel in solo play only! And only in leadership at that. Which should tell people she’s not actually that good unless you can constantly get her back with Make the Call because she wouldn’t normal stick around that much.

In multiplayer her value is lessened because you have an entire other player and their deck working with you! The value lost for Captain Marvel is microscopic compared to gaining a new hero and their 15 signature cards. And the same would be true for Spiderwoman with a Captain Marvel signature ally.

Confusion is a great status effect, and that’s before the 4 threat removal she can do.

On 3/19/2020 at 4:22 PM, Derrault said:

That would create a backwards compatibility issue. The simplest solution is to include a replacement ally in every hero that was previously a signature ally (or where they become a signature ally).

I would think they would want to avoid another signature ally as 3-player mode is just another issue waiting to happen. They could make a Julia Carpenter , but what happens when you want to run all 3?

Seems to me a cantrip (0 Cost draw a card action) or perhaps a double energy signature card would make more sense. Or simple just a simple action card.

For example a 0 cost action (with alternatively double wild energy) that gives you the AERIAL Trait until the end of turn and lets you draw a card would be a solid idea.

Or perhaps an interesting 2 or 3 cost action.

My speculation by the way is that the two once upon a time bad guys are converted (accessed) to Heroes by unlocking them through the scenarios..similar to unlocking Arwen as an Ally card by completing the two scenarios that ended with Road to Rivendell.

Where is it even said that SpiderWoman and Hawkeye are the next heroes?

19 minutes ago, Supertoe said:

Where is it even said that SpiderWoman and Hawkeye are the next heroes?

Nowhere. 😂

@IceHot42
"My speculation by the way is that the two once upon a time bad guys are converted (accessed) to Heroes by unlocking them through the scenarios..similar to unlocking Arwen as an Ally card by completing the two scenarios that ended with Road to Rivendell."

Like in a Legacy style game? I guess that could be fun if 'unlocking' them was part of a story mode (i.e. depending on the outcome of a scenario, you either play as Hawkeye or Spider-Woman?)

5 hours ago, Supertoe said:

Where is it even said that SpiderWoman and Hawkeye are the next heroes?

Nothing's been confirmed but they're the only Heroes on the front of the box art.

6 hours ago, Derrault said:

Like in a Legacy style game?

They have LotR and Arkham Horror for Legacy games. Marvel Champions is meant for pick up and play.

16 hours ago, SpiderMana said:

Nothing's been confirmed but they're the only Heroes on the front of the box art.

Where is this box art?

14 minutes ago, Supertoe said:

Where is this box art?

Revealed at GAMA (a trade show), it’s posted in the forums and on BGG in threads about the story box.

59 minutes ago, Supertoe said:

Where is this box art?

Has anyone seen this addressed at all today, in the livestream or the article about the box?

It will just become a ressource card.

20 minutes ago, yuccaflo said:

It will just become a ressource card.

Yep. Confirmed in the livestream. The plan is not to let an existing signature ally or nemesis prevent them from releasing a character or villain. So, yes, if you play Spider-Woman and Captain Marvel together, the Spider-Woman ally can only be used as a resource card.