Puritan, I suppose. Anything remotely heretical gets burned, and let the emperor sort it all out.
Radical or Puritan Poll.
Morangias said:
The Machine Cult is not amused by petty factions of the Inquisition. Only one way exists, the way of the Machine God. Death to Omnissiah's enemies!
**** right. Except, of course, that the Mechanicus is split by just as much ideological factionism as the Ordos. Fortunately, if anyone calls us on our hypocrisy, we'll take their toys off them...
I've swung both ways in my time*, but I've had most fun with moderate puritanism
Radicalism is fun for a while, but eventually its better to just outright play a chaos worshipper
*he said with a grin.
Morangias said:
The Machine Cult is not amused by petty factions of the Inquisition. Only one way exists, the way of the Machine God. Death to Omnissiah's enemies!
"++CORPUS FINIS++MACHINA MAGNUS++POTESTAS OMNISSIAH++OMNISSIAH VULT++DEATH TO THE ENEMIES OF THE MACHINE-GOD++CORPUS FINIS..."
Also, to actually be helpful:
I play a definite Cult Mechanicus character in my primary character. He (it?) does NOT believe the Emperor is an aspect of the Omnissiah, because as a Magos he has seen the "truth" (that has been mentioned in Titanicus). He believes that the Omnissiah is separate from, and more powerful than, the dead Flesh-God.
Needless to say, I have the Rival (Imperial Cult) and Enemy (Ecclesiarchy) talents, but the Inquisition won't (hasn't yet) interfered in intra-Mechanicus matters.
I would have to say my Schola Progenium Adept is neither puritan nor radical. Things need to be burned, scourged, killed whatever, that's what the Guardsmen, Assassin and Tech Priest are for. She's out to collect that "knowledge" that souldn't be out there and put it somewhere where it won't be a problem in the future (ie give it to Inquisition). Muties, cultists, and xenos are inconsequential to getting that "Book of Summoning Unspeakable Horror" out of circulation and put in a deep vault somewhere. Granted if they're trying to kill her, well she'll oblige them with a quick death but oh well it's self defense.
Magos Militant Arcturus said:
Also, to actually be helpful:
I play a definite Cult Mechanicus character in my primary character. He (it?) does NOT believe the Emperor is an aspect of the Omnissiah, because as a Magos he has seen the "truth" (that has been mentioned in Titanicus). He believes that the Omnissiah is separate from, and more powerful than, the dead Flesh-God.
Needless to say, I have the Rival (Imperial Cult) and Enemy (Ecclesiarchy) talents, but the Inquisition won't (hasn't yet) interfered in intra-Mechanicus matters.
Sounds like a groovy concept. What is the 'truth' in Titanicus? Looks like another book for me to keep an eye out for, then...
'Course, the Inquisition might leave you alone, but I'd watch your back around your sect mates. Start running around telling people that the Emperor isn't the Machine God's avatar, and you'll probably wake up one morning as a shiny new servitor. Probably one assigned to latrine duty...
Seraphael said:
Magos Militant Arcturus said:
Also, to actually be helpful:
I play a definite Cult Mechanicus character in my primary character. He (it?) does NOT believe the Emperor is an aspect of the Omnissiah, because as a Magos he has seen the "truth" (that has been mentioned in Titanicus). He believes that the Omnissiah is separate from, and more powerful than, the dead Flesh-God.
Needless to say, I have the Rival (Imperial Cult) and Enemy (Ecclesiarchy) talents, but the Inquisition won't (hasn't yet) interfered in intra-Mechanicus matters.
Sounds like a groovy concept. What is the 'truth' in Titanicus? Looks like another book for me to keep an eye out for, then...
'Course, the Inquisition might leave you alone, but I'd watch your back around your sect mates. Start running around telling people that the Emperor isn't the Machine God's avatar, and you'll probably wake up one morning as a shiny new servitor. Probably one assigned to latrine duty...
In Titanicus, there's a Schism between two sects of the Mechanicus. On the Forge-World Orestes, a Chaos attack has forced the Adeptus Mechanicus to open vaults of ancient, forbidden knowledge to beat them.
Somewhere in those vaults, a datum is found (or a collection of data) which, when one of the Adepts sees it, compels him to spread it around to the others: it is "irrefutable proof" that the Emperor and the Omnissiah are unrelated and in fact in opposition.
The only way a civil war is averted is through the deterrence of the pair of Titan Legions which are stationed there. The Legion from Mars already knew that the Emperor and the Omnissiah were not the same, but the Mechanicus has long kept that fact secret. The Legion from Orestes was in opposition, and only very careful diplomatic maneuvering prevented civil war...
Although the planetary PDF (under the command of the Imperial Governor, not the Admech) did besiege the main forge-stack.
Yep, looks like another book for me to be picking up then! Cheers for the info
"Xanthite" (because a weapon is a weapon, no matter who or what made it and a gun never corrupted anyone, it is our thoughts that turn us from the Divine Light of our Beloved God-Emperor) with a bit of Ocularian (because knowledge IS power)... And, after all the Emperor in all his Infinite Wisdom (Blessed be His name!) did create the Adeptus Astartes [genetically enhanced ( mutated ) humans] and gifted us with all manner of new, life improving technologies (knowledge).
So yes, I guess I'll have to agree... Puritan in though, Radical in deed.
Blighted Scholastica Adept.
A mild radical. She believes that knowledge is inherently neutral, but would much rather destroy a daemon than try to enslave it. Of course, she is a bit too fascinated by Psykers and, indeed, spends most of her time studying our local psyker to see if there's some component needed to develop those very same powers.
Another aspect that would mark her a radical is her willingness to go undercover amongst heretics, gather information on them before making a plan on how to utterly destroy them. She's starting to suspect that her Inquisitor is a radical, however, since he requested that they retrieve Xeno-artifacts rather than destroy them. Of course, she's in no position to deny their Inquisitor anything.
She
did
regret having performed all those mnemonic excersises when they first saw a site of an attempted daemonic summoning. She was asked to read the inscriptions and tell the others what "those stranges symbols" meant. She's been a bit... nervous since them.
Of course, when the influence of the Ruinous Powers became apparent, a famous line was uttered by our local Cleric: "Daemons!? They can't do that! We're the Ordo
Xeno
!"
xD
Magos Militant Arcturus said:
Seraphael said:
Magos Militant Arcturus said:
Also, to actually be helpful:
I play a definite Cult Mechanicus character in my primary character. He (it?) does NOT believe the Emperor is an aspect of the Omnissiah, because as a Magos he has seen the "truth" (that has been mentioned in Titanicus). He believes that the Omnissiah is separate from, and more powerful than, the dead Flesh-God.
Needless to say, I have the Rival (Imperial Cult) and Enemy (Ecclesiarchy) talents, but the Inquisition won't (hasn't yet) interfered in intra-Mechanicus matters.
Sounds like a groovy concept. What is the 'truth' in Titanicus? Looks like another book for me to keep an eye out for, then...
'Course, the Inquisition might leave you alone, but I'd watch your back around your sect mates. Start running around telling people that the Emperor isn't the Machine God's avatar, and you'll probably wake up one morning as a shiny new servitor. Probably one assigned to latrine duty...
In Titanicus, there's a Schism between two sects of the Mechanicus. On the Forge-World Orestes, a Chaos attack has forced the Adeptus Mechanicus to open vaults of ancient, forbidden knowledge to beat them.
Somewhere in those vaults, a datum is found (or a collection of data) which, when one of the Adepts sees it, compels him to spread it around to the others: it is "irrefutable proof" that the Emperor and the Omnissiah are unrelated and in fact in opposition.
The only way a civil war is averted is through the deterrence of the pair of Titan Legions which are stationed there. The Legion from Mars already knew that the Emperor and the Omnissiah were not the same, but the Mechanicus has long kept that fact secret. The Legion from Orestes was in opposition, and only very careful diplomatic maneuvering prevented civil war...
Although the planetary PDF (under the command of the Imperial Governor, not the Admech) did besiege the main forge-stack.
If you read Titanicus for the "truth" you should also read the HH: Mechanicus, for more "truth". It's a solid debate of whether or not the Emperor is the Omnissiah aspect of the Machine God, and here is the reason.
I have a friend who has his master's degree in math, in one of his classes, he was shown how to prove AND disprove the existence of god with Math. Now, imagine someone writing a thesis on just one aspect of that (for the case of titanicus it is the disproof of god through math). Now, imagine that history and time (10,000+ of time) happens... and in 10,000 years, someone finds this mathematical proof. The proof is solid, logical, and uses things that, at that point, only the Ad Mech really works with fluidly. That guy gets up and says, "Oh blessed machine god... there is no god, I have proof!" That doesn't actually make it truth, or at least, anymore truth than that there is a god
Just food for thought on that subject (and again, read Titanicus' horus heresy twin, Mechanicus, as the events in that book are not distorted by 10,000 years of brutal suppression).
As for my Inquisitor, he's a Radical Ordo Xenos Inquisitor.
Kyorou said:
Moderate Radical for me.
@Illithidelderbrain : the expression "Lawful Stupid" comes to mind.
In more ways than you can imagine
However, "The General" is hardly stupid, he's quite canny when necessary. I think he's a little scared and falling back on old training to compensate. I intend to drag that out of him and make him face his fears. He'll be stronger for it in the end......
My psyker started out as grey, thinks his boss is shades of grey but pretty white.
A few ranks later and i'm cussing like a trooper and pretending to be a chaos cultist to get inside cults and happy to display a contempt for the imperium with as many lies as i can think of and tossing powers left and right with next to no negative consequences, and those couple of times a 9 Has been rolled the over all effect has managed to increase what i set out to do (Why use Spasm to stop your foe momentarily when you can summon a gust of warp stenched wind to throw them around and concuss them for a few rounds for example!).
I've got away with a mere 3 corruption points in rank 1-4, same with insanity until i got a mental boost from a xeno psyker to god like levels and took a mere 3 points additional insanity taking me to a lowly 6!
My character simply sees himself as a tool for the emperor to shine through and its all going swell so far.
Sadly the Cleric (my characters handler/chosen executioner) is madly in love with my character, though being refused and ignored at Every possibly chance, that she's got twice as much insanity and corruption compared to me, though even then it's still very light.
I do see him having a huge fall soon if anythung bad happens to the love interest//cleric, lots of dark pacts and the like.
But until that happens he's quitr happy for the cleric to consider him a Saint of some type, after al he'll happily heal anyone that's injured with his "emperor given and taint free uberl33t powarhz".
Yes, he's slipping to radical whether he wants to or not, and he'll drag the rest of the group with him seeing as he's some how managed to convince the high ups he's good enough to be in charge of the cell of accolytes...
this will (hopefully) end very badly!
And for the group i run, despite the newly sanctioned Inquisitor is a firm radical, the group remain positively devoutly puritan regardless of what that may do to the plot
To be honest it depends who I'm playing with, if the Interrogator is in the party, I am the second in command and will take a bullet for the numero uno. If there is a book of unknown origins, I burn it, a chest that might have taint, burn it. I am the apex puritan. However if he's not around my assassin usually fights non stop with either a tech-priest or cleric(both played by the same person) and I am the epitome of a radical, going beyond radical and right into heresy. But I'm also a bit of a psyko, who justifies burning down a bar, killing everyone inside, and robbing it, walking across the street to the brothel that the person we're after is in, gunning down everyone inside, robbing it, and getting the target. With the help of the guardsman who likes to shoot things we have now become a cell only dispatched to take care of the worst botched jobs that other cells have screwed up. We are therefore usually radicals to the extreme who will use any means needed to achieve or goals just sort of selling our souls to the ruinous dark ones.
Even the most staunch Puritans cross the line. It's the simple fact of being an Inquisitor that you will eventually become radical. But I'm definitely with the Istvaanian faction. It makes sense especially in the Imperium of Man. War will always come to humanity and conflict is constant. The only way that we will survive is through fighting. All of the greatest achievements have been brought about by loss, toil, destruction, warfare, etc. But if I would also have a concentration on the Ordos themselves. The Inquisition is a strange organization full of fractured groups that are always bickering and fighting. I want the strongest to come out of the mess instead of the weakest.
When my character was first starting out he was a Puritan. Now that he's been in play for about a year and a half and has ascended to Inquisitor (story in FanFic), he's a cautious Xanthite. Cautious because his first Inquisitor was a very hard-core Xanthite and performed some truly awful atrocities in the name of the Emperor. Logically, he believes you should use whatever tools are at your disposal to get rid of your enemies, but there's still enough humanity in him to want to avoid, you know, creating a human Dorian Gray's painting to take any corruption in his stead.
Of course, he's sitting squarely on 40 insanity right now, too.
My primary NPC Inquisitor is a good old fashion Ordo Malleus Radical of the Obolationist Faction. Very much one with the mentality of "If I'm damned, I'll make sure that with that situation, the rest of the Imperium isn't in the process."
While currently, another character whom I've been kicking around is a Thorian instructed Inquisitor. Though once or twice he's been willing to work with the Eldar in purging heresies that get too close to humanity. Which isn't too bad for a Ordo Hereticus Inquisitor I think.
I'm pretty sure my character is one of the most classic Puritans of her group at this point. By and large she is an Amalthan in mindset, no doubt influenced by her solid Imperial origin... She is a Cadian noble! The common soldiers are overachieving hardcore badasses who make jokes at Death's expense (sometimes literally) and then deliver the punchline with a kick in his bony groin for good measure: It requires men and women of adamant will and integrity to lead such a culture, and House Van Eisen has ever risen to the challenge! She has some sympathies for the Recongregator cause, but aside from Astrid Skane, every one of their faction come across as anarchists masquerading as romantics. "Tear everything down and then we will rebuild... uh.... something ... in it's place.... eventually.... maybe?" is dangerous folly to a literally born-and-bred Imperial warrior.
Kylen, Shibby and Filidan already mentioned their characters.
John (Schola Guardsman) is a true credit to the Drill Abbots: He is borderline Monodominant, not to mention severely damaged goods at this point. He is over 60 IP and somewhere in the teens for CP, complete with a phobia of heights, compulsive prayer and a rather disturbing malignancy that has him addicted to oil! (He is full cyber-rez)
Ami (former Imperial World, now Mindcleansed Psyker) started off as a complicated mess of paranoia, teenage hormones, brattiness and general Psyker weirdness. Since her (surprisingly complicated and unusual) "rebirth" she is much more of a hardcore soldier-girl but booze still makes her panties fly across the room... Ami is not aware enough yet of Inquisition politics to belong to any faction just yet, but she definately belongs somewhere in the Radical camp.
Tanya (Noble Cleric) started off as the raver/party girl "black sheep" of her House and even now this is a fairly accurate description of her. While before these were the activities of a spoiled noble who was shipped of to a convent now they are more of a coping mechanism. Frequent traumatization by psykers and assorted varieties of "dead stuff" (including "plain dead", "undead", "cyber-animated dead" and "Daemon-puppet dead" so far) have somewhat unhinged our little social butterfly. She started with the Tarsus Chantry background package and has since drifted all the way into the militant branch of the Cleric career tree. Tanya REALLY likes fire and has been collecting Hatered talents (especially Psykers!) like they are Pokemon... Tanya is over 30 IP and has a phobia of "dead stuff" to show for it and well over 20 CP without so much as a single psychic power! She is probably somewhere in the middle of a jumbled mess of Monodominant and several of the more violent Radical factions ideals. If she ever gets her hands on the Ludmillan Manifesto she would be a potential recruit for the Red Redemption or possibly Witch Finder Rykehuss at this point in the story. Of course she still dyes her hair in semi-random wild colours because it amuses her whims.
Guess who gets to wrangle this herd of cats on missions?
RADICAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A weapon is a weapon...if your afraid of corruption from using it but its the best bet to get the job done...then go find a Null and make them use it for you
Barring that...stop sniveling and whinning about corruption and just use it for the minimum needed time...then go wash off and stick your head in the church for a few weeks of dedicated praying etc....to remove the problem or at least lessen it and consider it a necessary sacrifice for the greater good of the imperium and the Emperor...no sacrifice is too great for the Emperor
As for the more subtle methods...get the xenos and heretics to fight eachother...set them up and watch them tear eachother apart ( leaving the Imperium alone in the process ) and then take out whoever the winner is after the fight....