4 minutes ago, Ralgon said:

No idea if it will become meta, but iden/krennic/dt's/inferno (when it gets here) using idens superchage for them on turn 1-2 sounds **** scary

Play possum on turn 1-2, waste their card?

1 hour ago, Djaskim609 said:

Yes, you're such a grown up. Good for you. I'll assume it was your adult rage that interfered with your spelling ability. However, I do have a minor quibble: I didn't call everyone names--I said "some of y'all," the key word here being "some." And I'm really talking about people's behavior and not people themselves.

And I did address points being made. The main complaint seems to be power creep. I wondered why there were no comments about the power creep with the new heavies, especially the republic tank and order sharing clones. Again, I'm sure you were too busy being a mature person and righteously angry at my post to notice that.

I've played this game enough to know that she'll be strong. But OP? I don't think so. She'll have to face the enemy to use her powerful weapons against them, right? She has red defense dice, but no defensive surge; this means she can melt fast to focused fire from the enemy. She'll be good, but not some unstoppable juggernaut. Perhaps a proportionate response would be in order.

As for your last remark, I thought I was supposed to be the childish one. Please don't copyright infringe me.

Actually it's my phone that is trying to help me spell in Swedish and screwing up my English with idiotic auto spelling. However attacking someones spelling ability is of course lovely 😍

I never said she was overpowered and I must say that all I have heard about the tanks is that people think they are powercreep compared to the old vehicles so I don't really get the " No one is talking powercreep with them"

Well since you are an annoying person to talk too, Im gonna leave this thread. Enjoy it

33 minutes ago, Derrault said:

Play possum on turn 1-2, waste their card?

#wastetheirtime2020?

21 minutes ago, jocke01 said:

Actually it's my phone that is trying to help me spell in Swedish and screwing up my English with idiotic auto spelling. However attacking someones spelling ability is of course lovely 😍

I never said she was overpowered and I must say that all I have heard about the tanks is that people think they are powercreep compared to the old vehicles so I don't really get the " No one is talking powercreep with them"

Well since you are an annoying person to talk too, Im gonna leave this thread. Enjoy it

Yeah, well you ought to expect that--after all you @ me first. Sure, you personally didn't say that, but others were and that's why I made my original comment. Me annoying? Perhaps, but only when dealing with self righteous, finger-wagging nags. So sorry.

13 minutes ago, Darth Sanguis said:

#wastetheirtime2020?

I mean, if you know that’s the plan for that turn, every activation should be pretty quick.

6 minutes ago, Derrault said:

I mean, if you know that’s the plan for that turn, every activation should be pretty quick.

It does seem like a card that would be fairly telegraphed too.

It's a good point.

1 hour ago, Derrault said:

Play possum on turn 1-2, waste their card?

Staying beyond r4 for 2 turns could leave you fairly short of objectives by games end, especially when they get to move with action economy.

Iden is interesting to me but I don't agree she is OP. She does act as a little bit of power creep but I have thought a lot of the skirmisher commander type units were over priced. Her 3 pip affects the battlefield but her 1 and 2 pips are effectively short range operative style command cards. Short range means for her to use those she has to get somewhat close. That could expose her to Jedi, focus fire, etc. (the same problem skirmisher commander types all have). With her droid she has shield 1 regenerating and an extra health, with red saves. Outside of high damage pierce weapons she is really quite tanky. Her sniper rifle could be a little bit of a trap, because in theory she can shoot and buff at long range but in reality she only does that one turn and if for an entire game someone dedicates 115pts to 2 black pierce 1, I will take that. Fun unit and costed well enough to include.

I do wonder why her sniper gun doesn't have Cumbersome but Cassians does but then I noticed Cassian has reconfigure and she is stuck with the gun you bring.

1 hour ago, Ralgon said:

Staying beyond r4 for 2 turns could leave you fairly short of objectives by games end, especially when they get to move with action economy.

And that’s assuming you can keep every single unit out of LOS at r4.

In her grey and white armor next to Veers every time I play imps will be like a buddy cop movie. I can’t wait.

12 minutes ago, TauntaunScout said:

In her grey and white armor next to Veers every time I play imps will be like a buddy cop movie. I can’t wait.

This is actually the first mini other than Sabine that I'm kind of intimidated to paint. so much fine detail.

17 minutes ago, Darth Sanguis said:

This is actually the first mini other than Sabine that I'm kind of intimidated to paint. so much fine detail.

Off white primer. Drybrush the armor white. Paint the fabric and gun grey. Give the whole model a grey wash. Give the gun a black wash. Fix any egregious errors. Bingo bango bongo, Bob's your uncle, model's on the table.

29 minutes ago, TauntaunScout said:

Off white primer. Drybrush the armor white. Paint the fabric and gun grey. Give the whole model a grey wash. Give the gun a black wash. Fix any egregious errors. Bingo bango bongo, Bob's your uncle, model's on the table.

I hope I'm not hijacking this into a painting thread, but..

This is a dumb question, but grey wash is different than like... Nuln Oil, right? Will this prevent the whole "I just perfectly and finally got white to appear now time to wash noooesnowitsallgrey" nonsense I keep dealing with? I'm *really* hating white armor at this point, I just can't figure it out.

Any recommendations for a good grey wash?

3 minutes ago, Varulfr said:

I hope I'm not hijacking this into a painting thread, but..

This is a dumb question, but grey wash is different than like... Nuln Oil, right? Will this prevent the whole "I just perfectly and finally got white to appear now time to wash noooesnowitsallgrey" nonsense I keep dealing with? I'm *really* hating white armor at this point, I just can't figure it out.

Any recommendations for a good grey wash?

Yes. I have to get back to you though.

5 minutes ago, Varulfr said:

I hope I'm not hijacking this into a painting thread, but..

This is a dumb question, but grey wash is different than like... Nuln Oil, right? Will this prevent the whole "I just perfectly and finally got white to appear now time to wash noooesnowitsallgrey" nonsense I keep dealing with? I'm *really* hating white armor at this point, I just can't figure it out.

Any recommendations for a good grey wash?

You could use the white contrast paint from GW, or just be precise in you application of the wash. Don't hit the whole model, just the recessed parts you want shaded.

30 minutes ago, Varulfr said:

I hope I'm not hijacking this into a painting thread, but..

This is a dumb question, but grey wash is different than like... Nuln Oil, right? Will this prevent the whole "I just perfectly and finally got white to appear now time to wash noooesnowitsallgrey" nonsense I keep dealing with? I'm *really* hating white armor at this point, I just can't figure it out.

Any recommendations for a good grey wash?

25 minutes ago, Caimheul1313 said:

You could use the white contrast paint from GW, or just be precise in you application of the wash. Don't hit the whole model, just the recessed parts you want shaded.

I second this.

The method I've been using is:

1.) Prime in Vallejo white spray
2.) Let cure for 12 hours
3.) Thin GW's apothecary white contrast at about 70-80% paint to 20-30% water (the higher % paint the darker the grey stain)
4.) Apply a heavy coat of the thinned contrast, use a dry brush tip to remove excess where needed, then allow to dry.
5.) Use contrast templar black to apply gun and under armor joints, allow to dry
6.) Add any details.
7.) Spray varnish (I use Vallejo for the gloss, Army painter for matte) and allow to cure for 12 hours
8.) Base as desired

pictures below:

10 minutes ago, Darth Sanguis said:

I second this.

The method I've been using is:

1.) Prime in Vallejo white spray
2.) Let cure for 12 hours
3.) Thin GW's apothecary white contrast at about 70-80% paint to 20-30% water (the higher % paint the darker the grey stain)
4.) Apply a heavy coat of the thinned contrast, use a dry brush tip to remove excess where needed, then allow to dry.
5.) Use contrast templar black to apply gun and under armor joints, allow to dry
6.) Add any details.
7.) Spray varnish (I use Vallejo for the gloss, Army painter for matte) and allow to cure for 12 hours
8.) Base as desired

pictures below:

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I have a very similar method, it works. I like to praxeti white dry brush after the "white" contrast.

39 minutes ago, Varulfr said:

I hope I'm not hijacking this into a painting thread, but..

This is a dumb question, but grey wash is different than like... Nuln Oil, right? Will this prevent the whole "I just perfectly and finally got white to appear now time to wash noooesnowitsallgrey" nonsense I keep dealing with? I'm *really* hating white armor at this point, I just can't figure it out.

Any recommendations for a good grey wash?

I'd recommend getting Lamian Medium, spelling might be slightly off, but mix that 1 to 1 with the Nuln Oil and that helps a lot.

7 hours ago, Ralgon said:

Staying beyond r4 for 2 turns could leave you fairly short of objectives by games end, especially when they get to move with action economy.

Well, behind solid cover would do, but yeah, that’s the counter play right? Hoping your opponent simply won’t try to oppose you.

On 3/13/2020 at 1:19 PM, Varulfr said:

Any recommendations for a good grey wash?

I use lotsa medium with a drop of black ink. Then some water, and a teeny tiny amount of dish soap. I may add other colors to it if I need a blue grey for example.

Go to an art store, buy inks with dropper lids, and a 8 oz thing of matte acrylic medium. Changed my life.

Lahmian Medium is like Citadel Tape Measures or Citadel PVA Glue. No need for that expense.

On 3/13/2020 at 1:19 PM, Varulfr said:

I hope I'm not hijacking this into a painting thread, but..

This is a dumb question, but grey wash is different than like... Nuln Oil, right? Will this prevent the whole "I just perfectly and finally got white to appear now time to wash noooesnowitsallgrey" nonsense I keep dealing with? I'm *really* hating white armor at this point, I just can't figure it out.

Any recommendations for a good grey wash?

I was under the impression that Nuln Oil is just black acrylic paint thinned with water, not Grey.

27 minutes ago, Derrault said:

I was under the impression that Nuln Oil is just black acrylic paint thinned with water, not Grey.

I think its an ink not a paint.... same difference though for your point.

57 minutes ago, Tirion said:

I think its an ink not a paint.... same difference though for your point.

Checked Citadel, it’s an acrylic (water-based paint).

Here is a Clone Trooper that I painted with Contrast Apothecary White next to a stormtrooper shaded with Nuln Oil. The contrast paint has a lot of grey in it and creates several layers of tone. The Nuln Oil has a lot more black in it.

49 minutes ago, Sharkbelly said:

Here is a Clone Trooper that I painted with Contrast Apothecary White next to a stormtrooper shaded with Nuln Oil. The contrast paint has a lot of grey in it and creates several layers of tone. The Nuln Oil has a lot more black in it.

Drybrush over the top?