3 minutes ago, NeverTellMeTheOdds said:

Yeah, you can only spend 1 aim token. It would need to be long shot 5 to get to range 7. Still it’s really good.

Ahh sorry missed the spend X aim token part of it ,well I thought it was too good to be true, but still you can wrack up aim tokens for his crack shot turn for up to his 3 hits for that round with up to range 3 and his marksman. I'd say I'd staple overwatch/duck and cover on him along with hunter/offensive push on him , I can see a case for endurance if you don't bring Jyn.

10 minutes ago, syrath said:

Ahh sorry missed the spend X aim token part of it ,well I thought it was too good to be true, but still you can wrack up aim tokens for his crack shot turn for up to his 3 hits for that round with up to range 3 and his marksman. I'd say I'd staple overwatch/duck and cover on him along with hunter/offensive push on him , I can see a case for endurance if you don't bring Jyn.

Yep that’s my loadout with recon intel, I could probably run a 3 or 4 gear, but I doubt I’d ever run anything else.

2 minutes ago, NeverTellMeTheOdds said:

Yep that’s my loadout with recon intel, I could probably run a 3 or 4 gear, but I doubt I’d ever run anything else.

I'd maybe take grappling hooks or environmental not sure you need the triple 're-roll from targeting scopes , it's unlikely you would roll blanks unless you bring no armament, but I'd want that for the pierce alone.

Yeah, I don't think Leia or Veers are likely to get nerfed, but they also have unlimited ranged attacks which can be used to punish snipers and other weak units. The thing about strike team snipers was that you could fit basically all 3 of them in the same space it takes for Cassian (100 points, BTW, to play his rifle) and in a unit slot which is critical. His rifle at least is also cumbersome, which heavily restricts how you play. It means the "hero" snipers are better than the generic ones and can seriously bring the heat on them, but the volume of fire is way, WAY lower for the sniper commanders. Cassian is but one man, and he cannot move and shoot. He's only doing like 2 damage tops per turn other than his Crack Shot turn (and most Hero units have the ability to have a very punishing turn or two with CCs).

The real boon of Cassian and presumably Iden is flexibility. You can make so many decisions at Turn 0, at the table. About to face some Tauns? Give him Hunter and his Sniper and Infiltrate him onto a building or ledge. He'll take some shots as they come in and can soften them up, maybe even pick off a straggler or two. Need for more run and gun? Set him up with his pistol and maybe something like duck and cover or offensive push. Think you're gonna need to climb? He can take Grappling Hooks, and if you don't need it you, can swap to Recon Intel or Environmental Gear maybe.

1 hour ago, NeverTellMeTheOdds said:

Battle lines is your best case scenario for infiltrate, and even then you’re not going to be able to deploy all your infiltrate near each other unless your opponent doesn’t know what they’re doing. God forbid you get long march.

I’d rather have disarray, fortunately, you can plan for such things and stack the decks in your favor just by bidding.

43 minutes ago, syrath said:

Ahh sorry missed the spend X aim token part of it ,well I thought it was too good to be true, but still you can wrack up aim tokens for his crack shot turn for up to his 3 hits for that round with up to range 3 and his marksman. I'd say I'd staple overwatch/duck and cover on him along with hunter/offensive push on him , I can see a case for endurance if you don't bring Jyn.

It lets him move and fire at range 3, which is pretty good unto itself.

2 hours ago, syrath said:

794/800

Cassian Andor (90 + 23 = 113)
--Hunter (6))/Offensive Push, Overwatch (4),/Duck and Cover, Grappling Hooks (3)/Recon Intel, A280-CFE Pistol Config (10)

Jyn Erso (110 + 11 = 121)
--Strict Orders (5), Duck and Cover (4), Recon Intel (2), A-180 Rifle Config (0)

K-2SO (70 + 15 = 85)
--Comms Jammer (5), Jyns SE-14 Blaster (10)

Rebel Veterans (48 + 32 = 80)
--CM-O93 Trooper (26), Overwatch (4), Recon Intel (2)

Rebel Troopers (40 + 0 = 40)

Rebel Troopers (40 + 0 = 40)

Rebel Pathfinders (68 + 28 = 96)
--Pao (22), Duck and Cover (4), Recon Intel (2), A-300 Long Range Config (0)

Rebel Commandos (Strike Team) (20 + 28 = 48)
--DH-447 Sniper (28)

Rebel Pathfinders (68 + 38 = 106)
--Bistan (32), Offensive Push (4), Recon Intel (2), A-300 Long Range Config (0)

1.4 FD Laser Cannon Team (70 + 0 = 70).

I may drop the Cm093_ for 2 hquplinks on the pathfinders

The one I’m going to try out is this. I still have 22 points to play with. Originally it was 2x vets and their MK2s, but I dropped one set for 2 regular rebels units for scenarios.

Leia Organa
Cassian Andor (Offensive Push, Hunter, Recon Intel, A280-CFE Sniper Config)
K-2SO (Comms Jammer, Jyns SE-14 Blaster)
Rebel Veterans (Rebel Comms Technician, Recon Intel, HQ Uplink)
Mark II Medium Blaster Trooper
Rebel Troopers
Rebel Troopers
Rebel Commandos (Strike Team) (DH-447 Sniper)
Rebel Commandos (Strike Team) (DH-447 Sniper)
Tauntaun Riders (Tenacity, HQ Uplink)
Tauntaun Riders (Tenacity, HQ Uplink)

Kudos to the designers and graphics dept on such a strong mood from one picture and a rules text box.

On 3/5/2020 at 1:04 PM, NeverTellMeTheOdds said:

My only complaint about the minis is I wish Cassian wasn’t in the heavy coat. I would have preferred this look.

Too Battlestar Galactica is what they were told

On 3/5/2020 at 3:12 PM, ScummyRebel said:

Now? I have no idea.... I can’t decide what sculpt to use.

Buy 3 packages?

Can you have 3 operatives if you treat Cassian as one with Jyn and take R2, K2, and in your starting list

Cassian to get infiltrate, K2So as codetachment, R2 in the line up? Or does K2 count against your Op total or what does detachment mean? Do they become a unit where you could still take Sabine too?

9 minutes ago, buckero0 said:

Can you have 3 operatives if you treat Cassian as one with Jyn and take R2, K2, and in your starting list

Cassian to get infiltrate, K2So as codetachment, R2 in the line up? Or does K2 count against your Op total or what does detachment mean? Do they become a unit where you could still take Sabine too?

Yes the organization chart is only checks during Force construction

11 minutes ago, buckero0 said:

Can you have 3 operatives if you treat Cassian as one with Jyn and take R2, K2, and in your starting list

Cassian to get infiltrate, K2So as codetachment, R2 in the line up? Or does K2 count against your Op total or what does detachment mean? Do they become a unit where you could still take Sabine too?

Detachment just means that you cannot take the unit with Detachment without including the unit specified by the Detachment ability.

58 minutes ago, buckero0 said:

Can you have 3 operatives if you treat Cassian as one with Jyn and take R2, K2, and in your starting list

Cassian to get infiltrate, K2So as codetachment, R2 in the line up? Or does K2 count against your Op total or what does detachment mean? Do they become a unit where you could still take Sabine too?

You can have 2 other operatives in your list, for list building Cassian is a commander until the point you deploy him, after which he becomes an operative or a commander depending how you deploy him. Note that you can choose him as an operative and still deploy him normally. So yes, before deployment you can have 1 or 2 commanders including Cassian, and up to 2 operatives and then deploy him as an operative to end up with up to 3 operatives. In that latter event you and Cassian was your sole commander you then have to choose a Corp or spec forces unit to promote to commander. Note you couldn't select an operative.

9 minutes ago, syrath said:

Note you couldn't select an operative.

Yeah presumably so you can't just make Cassian/Iden a commander again, but it also prevents some other shenanigans.

1 hour ago, UnitOmega said:

Yeah presumably so you can't just make Cassian/Iden a commander again, but it also prevents some other shenanigans.

So you can't make Operative Luke your commander if you only take Cassian or make K2SO your commander

On 3/6/2020 at 5:08 PM, buckero0 said:

Too Battlestar Galactica is what they were told

Fine this one. Too Marty McFly?

Just a heads up on the recent European championship in 7t h place with 3-1 was a Jyn list with pathfinders and a double ATRT(laser cannons , go figure) they were only beat by one of the 4 people that went 4-0 .

Just goes to show you can do well with an off meta list the rest of the top 8 were the usual shores/tauns with imps bringing bikes, and the rebels varying up leaders/Operatives, one imperial brought a tank instead (no 😎 . Congratulations to Pat if you watch this forum for doing so well with a much derided commander who is dear to s one of our hearts (well at least three of us)

4 hours ago, syrath said:

Just a heads up on the recent European championship in 7t h place with 3-1 was a Jyn list with pathfinders and a double ATRT(laser cannons , go figure) they were only beat by one of the 4 people that went 4-0 .

Just goes to show you can do well with an off meta list the rest of the top 8 were the usual shores/tauns with imps bringing bikes, and the rebels varying up leaders/Operatives, one imperial brought a tank instead (no 😎 . Congratulations to Pat if you watch this forum for doing so well with a much derided commander who is dear to s one of our hearts (well at least three of us)

But wait the talking heads said she is bad 😂 . Anyone interested in joining our club we meet in the basement on Tuesdays

4 minutes ago, Tirion said:

But wait the talking heads said she is bad 😂 . Anyone interested in going or club we meet in the basement on Tuesdays

I got told it was Thursdays no wonder I'm by myself

16 minutes ago, Tirion said:

But wait the talking heads said she is bad 😂 . Anyone interested in joining our club we meet in the basement on Tuesdays

Jyn being harder to run than Leia is true. Jyn being bad isn't. Infiltrate is a newb trap, which is where the stigma against Jyn and Pathfinders started from. It snowballed from there with Danger Sense being worthless for the first attack against the unit.

I personally prefer running Han as I prefer Han's consistent defense to Jyn's suppression dependent defense.

5 hours ago, syrath said:

Just a heads up on the recent European championship in 7t h place with 3-1 was a Jyn list with pathfinders and a double ATRT(laser cannons , go figure) they were only beat by one of the 4 people that went 4-0 .

Just goes to show you can do well with an off meta list the rest of the top 8 were the usual shores/tauns with imps bringing bikes, and the rebels varying up leaders/Operatives, one imperial brought a tank instead (no 😎 . Congratulations to Pat if you watch this forum for doing so well with a much derided commander who is dear to s one of our hearts (well at least three of us)

Is there any information about the battles he won? I read the battle report of the match vs SailorMeni, and Jyn & co. performance was not really brilliant, tbh.

Really blow your opponents away with a Rogue One list (which I will be fielding soon enough).

Jyn: -D&C, -A180 pistol/rifle config

Cassian: -D&C, -A280 CFE

K2SO: -SE-14

Pathfinders: -Pao, -D&C, -SR/LR config

Pathfinders: -Bistan, -SR/LR config

Pathfinders: SR/LR config

Rebel Troopers (x2): -DLT-20A

Rebel Vets: -CM-O93

MKII Med. Blaster

Have fun with this one and make 10 men feel like 100...

27 minutes ago, Dalae said:

Is there any information about the battles he won? I read the battle report of the match vs SailorMeni, and Jyn & co. performance was not really brilliant, tbh.

No idea I'm afraid, it could just have been a string of lucky die rolls that got him there, to be honest, if you look at the tone I'm not being that serious, however I know an Australian list similar to this went 4-0 in a prime a few months back , that had 2 pathfinders , Jyn , 4 rebel troopers , 2 with r5s and one with a z6, triple ATRTs and a sniper strike team. This however was a 10 man tournament, but still it shows it can be done. Given how few people take Jyn to a tournament, it's statistically important, but given I've only seen two examples of it. Still I still maintain she is harder to play rather than just outright bad, because you see such varied reports about her, and I think many of the bad (though I'm sure not all of them) reports come from people who have only given her a few attempts or have just seen her played badly as a result. I've been resoundly beaten st tournaments, but I've also seen her taken a complete beating time and time again and still remain standing, but I learned early on though that infiltrate is a trap if you use it to get too offensive and sit the unit too close to your opponent so that she gets 5 shots into her before you even get any suppression.

1 hour ago, Dalae said:

Is there any information about the battles he won? I read the battle report of the match vs SailorMeni, and Jyn & co. performance was not really brilliant, tbh.

Just because one guy went 3-1 in a field we know nothing about doesn’t mean they’re all of a sudden good. It could also just be a really good player propping up a not very good list.