The Princess Bride and the Scruffy Groom

By Cpt.Kirk006, in X-Wing Squad Lists

Extended format.

Looking for thoughts and suggestions on the following build.

I have played it once and it felt great with the passing of calcs from K2SO and Leia a having Nien Numb to shed the stress. Lia's ability isn't the greatest but works well passing a focus that could be turned into an evade via Jyn Erso to provide Han a mod of choice when he cant use Lando. Clusters to widen the Arc and provide a possible bonus attack works ok also. and HP so that Han and Leia can ini kill I5's and in the crucial moment when Leia may be in trouble can punish the I6 or maybe ini kill it.

I am welcome to any thoughts and or suggestions as this may be a fun extended list for a local extended tournament in the foreseeable future.

Modified YT-1300 Light Freighter - •Han Solo - 102
•Han Solo - Scoundrel for Hire[/i] (80)
Trick Shot (4)
Cluster Missiles (5)
•K-2SO (8)
•Lando Calrissian (2)
•Millennium Falcon (3)

Modified YT-1300 Light Freighter - •Leia Organa - 94
•Leia Organa - There Is Another (79)
Cluster Missiles (5)
•Jyn Erso (2)
•Nien Nunb (5)
Heightened Perception (3)

Total: 196/200

I hank you all in advance,

Live long and ................ may the force be with you.

I guess I just have preferences when it comes to Falcons. None of it should be seen as anything other than how someone else takes their coffee. Not better or worse, just different.

R2-D2 seems like the most important upgrade for Han to me. Why fly Extended Han without Artoo? I'm also not a huge Han/Lando fan. I think Han always wants a Focus, so only the focus+focus and focus+evade results are any good, and that's not too high a chance of it. And I want Engine Upgrades, since large base Boost is amazing on a turret, and not being tethered to blue moves is great. Right now, you can't really use K2-SO after a boost. K2 is great when you get block-trained, however. But I love that Leia and Han naturally have really open dials (even more open if they Engine Upgrade)...

To each their own...

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I suppose, though, that Cluster Missiles could easily be cut along with bid for Engine Upgrades. Have the clusters worked out well for you? I suppose they probably could be handy against larger ship count lists... But if they aren't working wonders, having white boosts is great.

Again, more preferences, not anything better.

1 hour ago, theBitterFig said:

I guess I just have preferences when it comes to Falcons. None of it should be seen as anything other than how someone else takes their coffee. Not better or worse, just different.

I really like this statement. It is so true.

I agree Han with R2-D2 is great and I have played the old Fat Han before the nerf. Also White boosts due to engine upgrade are also excellent.

I really just wanted to change up the flavor of my coffee and fly these two a little different. The great thing about K2-SO is that 0-3 range. so unless both Falcons boosted the rnd before you can choose to give that extra mod to the one that did not.

Clusters worked out nice but I still need to get more games in with the pair as one game does not provide enough info. 5+ ship count lists are prevalent and I think the clusters partially address this.

Also as much as I like engine upgrade if you block the Falcon no boost and CIS swarms FOCHO and IMPswarms can block them up. Last Week I kept a Falcon pinned down and blocked up with my CIS swarm for 3 turns it was a bad day for that Falcon as the rest of the swarm ate up the falcon.

Again more games and play testing and tinkering around my next game with them I will drop the clusters on Han and give him the engine upgrade and let Leia be for the small bid of 2 and see how that goes.

Thank you for your thoughts and enjoy your Coffee

One thing I've been theory crafting with K2 on Falcon Aces is that if you also take Sense/Intel/Cassian you can set a red maneuver then look at dials and if you don't like where that red maneuver ends up you can use K2 for calc+focus to "bail out" of the S-loop maneuver and do a 2 straight instead. Add Kanan for clearing said stress and keeping the next maneuver open. I haven't put any table time in it yet, but I'm going to try Leia with Sense, K2, and Kanan.

10 hours ago, nitrobenz said:

I haven't put any table time in it yet, but I'm going to try Leia with Sense, K2, and Kanan.

Nitrobenz.

I like the idea you put forward I will have to put it on the table also, in theory it could be pretty good.

Who would you run as Leia's partner or partners with that build.

14 hours ago, nitrobenz said:

One thing I've been theory crafting with K2 on Falcon Aces is that if you also take Sense/Intel/Cassian you can set a red maneuver then look at dials and if you don't like where that red maneuver ends up you can use K2 for calc+focus to "bail out" of the S-loop maneuver and do a 2 straight instead. Add Kanan for clearing said stress and keeping the next maneuver open. I haven't put any table time in it yet, but I'm going to try Leia with Sense, K2, and Kanan.

My only issue with that Kanan/K2/Sense trick is that Sense/Cassian on Leia is cheaper and probably a bit more flexible. Peek with Sense to guess correct with Cassian to change the dial, not just to a 2-straight you'll need to use Kanan to clear stress, but to anything. Plus you can have started on a move which isn't red.

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*edit* Possible Implementation:

  • Leia (Sense, Cassian, Engine Upgrade, Millennium Falcon or Hull Upgrade) 100
  • Han Solo (R2-D2, Engine Upgrade, Hull Upgrade) 100
Edited by theBitterFig
13 hours ago, Cpt.Kirk006 said:

Who would you run as Leia's partner or partners with that build.

The list I have waiting in the box just happens to be a Double Falcon list:

RA. Double falcon K2

(80) Han Solo [Modified YT-1300 Light Freighter]
(12) Kanan Jarrus
(8) K-2SO
(7) Engine Upgrade
Points: 107

(79) Leia Organa [Modified YT-1300 Light Freighter]
(6) Cassian Andor
(5) Sense
(3) Millennium Falcon
Points: 93

Total points: 200

I had a similar thought to @theBitterFig that CasSense is cheaper+more flexible, but why not double down? Han gets the K2+Kanan combo and just relies on Leia to peek at dials and inform whether K2 is needed that turn.

Every turn Leia used Sense to look at one dial and if you like that one you can split Cassian to look at a different dial to give K2 more info. Cassian is a +1pt bargain when compared to Informant since he can check out any dial in range and can potentially change yours. CasSense & K2 in the same squad gives a lot of potential flexibility.

I might be odd, but I really like my Falcons naked. Leaves enough points for a decent third ship! Leia and Han could've brought Arvel into the bedroom, for instance...

@nitrobenz

The list looks interesting will have to give it a spin and compare. The nice thing is Cassian and sense also provide some info that compensate's for the lack of bid.

@Greebwahn

I'd rather keep Leia and Han clothed when playing on the table in public but for casual play why not invite a third.

8 hours ago, Cpt.Kirk006 said:

The nice thing is Cassian and sense also provide some info that compensate's for the lack of bid.

Its reminiscent of the strategy for taking a smaller bid with Passive Sensors Vader.