Other than the usual stolen Imperial shuttles (like the Lambda) and old Clone Wars shuttles, were there any standard shuttles widely used by the Rebels? I know we see a lot of light freighters repurposed as shuttles, but that's not really the same thing.
Rebel Shuttles
Building shuttles seems a waste of cash for the rebels they only have so much light freighters and or stolen imp shuttles seem to most likely all they have
A lot of rebels ships are stolen imp ships some so common like the nebulon B that many think they are rebel ships
40 minutes ago, Oldmike1 said:Building shuttles seems a waste of cash for the rebels
Shuttles are the best small craft option for transporting large numbers of people over relatively short distances. This includes combat missions, personnel recovery/evacuations, and even just routine personnel movement (I don't picture two MonCal cruisers docking all that often to exchange crew).
1 minute ago, HappyDaze said:Shuttles are the best small craft option for transporting large numbers of people over relatively short distances. This includes combat missions, personnel recovery/evacuations, and even just routine personnel movement (I don't picture two MonCal cruisers docking all that often to exchange crew).
sure. but that doesnt mean they would build them. they steal them. Because stolen imperial shuttles allow them to get closer
Just now, Daeglan said:sure. but that doesnt mean they would build them. they steal them. Because stolen imperial shuttles allow them to get closer
Are there no MonCal shuttles? What about Sulustian-built SoruSuub shuttles?
Just now, HappyDaze said:Are there no MonCal shuttles? What about Sulustian-built SoruSuub shuttles?
i havent seen any. doesnt mean they dont exist just that we havent seen them that i am aware of.
As with most things, I suspect the Alliance makes do with what it can get. Outside of certain core forces, like SpecForce and the Starfighter Corps, standardisation is something that they really can't achieve.
I doubt they designed and produced new series and models shuttles, but they definitely repurposed older and other types of ships to this purpose.
Different groups would have different ships, some with a more varied and disparate "fleet" than others, depending on location, access, and organisation.
Any old shuttle would probably be used if found. As a general rule they're probably stripped of anything not essential and useful, to maximise space, efficiency, and ease of maintenance. From repaired or found Sheathipede-class , to earlier models of the U-55 orbital loadlifters (Resistance shuttles in TLJ, but it's not unreasonable to think that earlier versions existed), which isn't too unlike the GX1 short hauler (they are reminiscent of each other aesthetically, according to my eyes) , U-Wings that were optimised for moving personnel (not unlike the Empire utilising TIE Bombers to move personnel), modified Star Commuter 2000 s, stolen Sentinel landing crafts , old dug-up Maxillipede shuttles , repurposed H-2 executive shuttles , Nu-class transports , Theta-class T-2c shuttles , Taylander shuttles , E-50 Landseer , stolen remnant Aka'jor-class shuttles ... the list goes on I'm sure.
Lots to take from in other words.
I thought the U Wing was their in combat shuttle for troops. I would think they would use any shuttle they could get their hands on for most uses.
22 minutes ago, tank0625 said:I thought the U Wing was their in combat shuttle for troops. I would think they would use any shuttle they could get their hands on for most uses.
This is what I immediately imagined. They are a military rebellion after all. For example, they aren't going to be using unarmed civilian shuttles unless they are incognito, which means they could be in anything available.
So for a military rebellion, shuttle equates to "combat troop transport" like the U-wing when doing a raid. They aren't worried about going for stealth on a raid so they pull out their best combat ships with X/Y-wings also obviously known for the rebels in support.
Not wanting to be recognized immediately? Having a "Rebel Shuttle Type A" probably wouldn't be very smart since the Imperials will eventually catch on. It would be kinda like a fleet of MonCalamari ships trying to quietly fly about the Galaxy after the MonCals joined the Rebellion. So instead, we've twice seen a stolen Imperial shuttle when going for infiltration of Imperial areas. They also could easily use a random transport like a YT-1300 repurposed as a shuttle with cargo bays converted to passenger hauling so it blends in.
46 minutes ago, tank0625 said:I thought the U Wing was their in combat shuttle for troops. I would think they would use any shuttle they could get their hands on for most uses.
The U-wing is actually pretty crappy at that job compared to almost every other example we've seen stats for in the game. It's poorly armored and doesn't carry nearly enough troops. If that's the alternative, I can see why the Rebels are thrilled to get their hands on Lambdas.
15 minutes ago, Sturn said:Not wanting to be recognized immediately? Having a "Rebel Shuttle Type A" probably wouldn't be very smart since the Imperials will eventually catch on. It would be kinda like a fleet of MonCalamari ships trying to quietly fly about the Galaxy after the MonCals joined the Rebellion. So instead, we've twice seen a stolen Imperial shuttle when going for infiltration of Imperial areas. They also could easily use a random transport like a YT-1300 repurposed as a shuttle with cargo bays converted to passenger hauling so it blends in.
IIRC, the entry for the MonCal light freighter, the MC-18 (not sure why it's hyphenated and not simply MC18 like the rest of the MonCal ships), mentions this issue.
4 minutes ago, HappyDaze said:The U-wing is actually pretty crappy at that job compared to almost every other example we've seen stats for in the game. It's poorly armored and doesn't carry nearly enough troops. If that's the alternative, I can see why the Rebels are thrilled to get their hands on Lambdas.
The U-Wing is a Huey. It carries about the same number of troops.
Just now, Daeglan said:The U-Wing is a Huey. It carries about the same number of troops.
And it's crap for ships that generally don't land but list 2 shuttles and 250 troops (e.g., Neutron Star -class Bulk Cruiser). It would take forever to get your troops down in sufficient numbers.
3 minutes ago, HappyDaze said:And it's crap for ships that generally don't land but list 2 shuttles and 250 troops (e.g., Neutron Star -class Bulk Cruiser). It would take forever to get your troops down in sufficient numbers.
You are trying to compare a huey to a LCAC. they serve different functions and jobs.
57 minutes ago, Daeglan said:You are trying to compare a huey to a LCAC. they serve different functions and jobs.
Then I'm obviously not looking for the "Rebel huey."
There may well be something along Huey in SW legends, but if you look a canon then I don't think you will find much. Look at the scenes for Yavin IV and Hoth. If there are any such transports then they will be seen there.
The U-Wing would be the closest thing?
13 minutes ago, HappyDaze said:Then I'm obviously not looking for the "Rebel huey."
4 minutes ago, Andreievitch said:There may well be something along Huey in SW legends, but if you look a canon then I don't think you will find much. Look at the scenes for Yavin IV and Hoth. If there are any such transports then they will be seen there.
The U-Wing would be the closest thing?
the U-Wing and the LAATI are the 2 closest. though a LAATI is more like a Hind.
The Sentinel and the ship imperial Cargo ship from Rogue are the closest to an LCAC if LCAC is the type of craft Happy is looking for...
1 hour ago, Daeglan said:
the U-Wing and the LAATI are the 2 closest. though a LAATI is more like a Hind.
The Sentinel and the ship imperial Cargo ship from Rogue are the closest to an LCAC if LCAC is the type of craft Happy is looking for...
The Rebels would be quite interested in getting a few Kom'rk-class ships from the Death Watch. Those carry three times the troops of a U-wing (for up to 2 months) along with better armor, handling, and hyperdrive.
However, lacking that, the Lambda really can serve this role with a transport capacity of up to 20. Sentinel-class would be even better for troop carrying, and then there are those leftovers from the Clone Wars (but not the Sheathipede, it's back to U-wing capacity despite being better in many ways).
3 hours ago, HappyDaze said:And it's crap for ships that generally don't land but list 2 shuttles and 250 troops (e.g., Neutron Star -class Bulk Cruiser). It would take forever to get your troops down in sufficient numbers.
Ok THAT kind of shuttle. You're not looking for something small. There are many Imperial ones to be stolen. If not, a civilian large shuttle? At least 50+ passengers? Don't want to make something new?
The Taylander shuttle may meet your requirements? The description mentions Rebel use. No stats I could find on number of passengers though and I don't know if it's stated for FFG anywhere? It might be larger then what you wanted since it seems more like a transport then just a shuttle attached to a larger ship.
The Star Commuter seems ok. Civilian ship. 25 passengers. But if you are using it for combat troop transport it doesn't seem appropriate.
34 minutes ago, Sturn said:Ok THAT kind of shuttle. You're not looking for something small. There are many Imperial ones to be stolen. If not, a civilian large shuttle? At least 50+ passengers? Don't want to make something new?
The Taylander shuttle may meet your requirements? The description mentions Rebel use. No stats I could find on number of passengers though and I don't know if it's stated for FFG anywhere? It might be larger then what you wanted since it seems more like a transport then just a shuttle attached to a larger ship.
The Star Commuter seems ok. Civilian ship. 25 passengers. But if you are using it for combat troop transport it doesn't seem appropriate.
The CR-20 comes yo mind https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/CR-20_troop_carrier/Legends and we have stats somewhere in the books...
The Engineer Sourcebook, Fully Operational, has stats for the Caisson-class Troop Carrier, referred to as "a derivative of the CR-20."
How about the Star Speeder 3000 from Star Tours. At first I thought I would be funny. But after thinking about it, I think it would make a good shuttle. I just don't know of any stats for it.
Desperate Allies talks about the Rebels using surplus https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Kappa-class_shuttle but for the most part it's light freighters instead of shuttle - which I think is talked about in the old D6 Rebel Alliance Sourcebooks
On 3/2/2020 at 10:06 PM, P-47 Thunderbolt said:The Engineer Sourcebook, Fully Operational, has stats for the Caisson-class Troop Carrier, referred to as "a derivative of the CR-20."
I really like the Caisson , but I really think it has an error in it's stats. The text for it notes that it carries 20 combat engineers while the stat line for passengers says 40 combat engineers. I think the original version of the CR-20 troop carrier carried 40 troops, but the Caisson should probably only carry 20 since it also packs in a Silhouette 3 support vehicle.