The Empire is missing a bunch of really good pilots in Hyperspace right now, so I’m having to reach farther and farther to take reliable lists. This is pure theory - I haven’t actually flown this yet.

Pretty much, the goal is to joust Countdown against the strongest lone ship your opponent has, because his ability will always prevent him from taking more than one damage. Fifth Brother and Targeting Computer really help with dice mods.

One he strips a bunch of shields, Maarek and Gideon can start punishing your opponent. Vermeil is mostly there for fire support and maybe as a distraction. Krennic adds a lock, which is helpful.

Main list: (194)

Maarek Stele (45) {53}

•Fire-Control System (2)

•Concussion Missiles (6)

Major Vermeil (49) {53}

•Director Krennic (4)

Countdown (44) {58}

•Targeting Computer (3)

•Fifth Brother (11)

Gideon Hask (30) {30}

Nice.

This list used to run with Vader in the x1, obvious upgrade changes ofc. Vermeil had Death Troopers, I believe, points have changed now.... It was very effective, but Vader is clearly a cut above the rest.

Maarek is good, but not Vader good. It's a lot of points invested in Countdown, for all his resilience 1 vs 1, he has next to none 1 vs more than 1.

You can see where I'm going with this....

I like the variation though, and it has good genes

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3 minutes ago, Cuz05 said:

Nice.

This list used to run with Vader in the x1, obvious upgrade changes ofc. Vermeil had Death Troopers, I believe, points have changed now.... It was very effective, but Vader is clearly a cut above the rest.

Maarek is good, but not Vader good. It's a lot of points invested in Countdown, for all his resilience 1 vs 1, he has next to none 1 vs more than 1.

You can see where I'm going with this....

I like the variation though, and it has good genes

Yeah, I completely agree that Vader is way better and would probably make a better list. The reason I didn’t include him is cause I’ve been flying so much Vader lately (again, he’s really good) that I wanted to try something else. Thank you though! If I ever play this competitively, I’d totally swap for Vader.

Yeah, after looking at Death Troopers, they are better. I’ll swap that. Thanks!

Tbh, I'm favouring ALL of the other x1 piliots over Vader myself atm

I guess I'm just not a big Gideon Hask fan. Seems easy enough to bring a real 3 red dice ship. Probably just personal preference

But if I were trying to replace him with something else, the two upgrades I'd look to cut are Concussion Missiles on Maarek Stele (he doesn't need them: he's got Advanced Targeting Computer as a ship ability), and Director Krennic. Seems like he's already on the way out, though.

So with the same Countdown, Maarek with just FCS, and Vermiel, there's 46 points, 40 if using Death Troopers.

• Without DTs, that's easily enough for either Pure Sabacc or Duchess instead of Gideon. Ved Folso would work with FCS at 46. Technically, Vizier would also fit, if interested in double-Reaper.
• If going Death Troopers, with only 40 points to spare, that could be a Black Squadron Scout or a Passive Sensors Tempest TIE/x1.

Again, just my preferences. I'm not really a stray-TIE kinda player.

I actually do like that. I hadn’t realized I could fit Pure Sabacc. I enjoy flying him

Revised:

Vermeil

Maarek w/ FCS

Countdown as before

Pure Sabacc w/ Ruthless

13 minutes ago, theBitterFig said:

I guess I'm just not a big Gideon Hask fan. Seems easy enough to bring a real 3 red dice ship. Probably just personal preference

But if I were trying to replace him with something else, the two upgrades I'd look to cut are Concussion Missiles on Maarek Stele (he doesn't need them: he's got Advanced Targeting Computer as a ship ability), and Director Krennic. Seems like he's already on the way out, though.

So with the same Countdown, Maarek with just FCS, and Vermiel, there's 46 points, 40 if using Death Troopers.

• Without DTs, that's easily enough for either Pure Sabacc or Duchess instead of Gideon. Ved Folso would work with FCS at 46. Technically, Vizier would also fit, if interested in double-Reaper.
• If going Death Troopers, with only 40 points to spare, that could be a Black Squadron Scout or a Passive Sensors Tempest TIE/x1.

Again, just my preferences. I'm not really a stray-TIE kinda player.