3 Force Users Walk into a Cantina

By AceSolo5, in Star Wars: Force and Destiny RPG

Ok...

I have 3 Force users in my new campaign (no other players). They’d like it to be set in the time period of The Mandolorian.

just wondered how people envisaged the situation for Force Users in this period? Are they still hunted? Are they starting to come to the forefront again?

Any ideas/thoughts would be welcome as at the moment... I’ve got very little to work with 🤣 😱 😐

I think the Imperial remnants would be struggling just to hold on to power. Force users would be potential assets in that regard, not targets for elimination.

Less X-Men and more Avengers Civil War, if that tells you anything.

I think it depends personally.

On one hand, it's difficult to shake up all the misinformation that the Jedi have been subjected to for a good twenty years and I imagine a large chunk of people blame, even hate them for starting the Clone Wars. On other side, there are people who disbelieve the Emperor's lies and hold Luke up as a bastion of good people, having slain the Sith in one sitting. So I doubt there will be a universal hunt, but like any good poltical demography, there are bound to be plenty of stupid people on both sides that claim the other is just wrong. I mean, if that wasn't the case there certainly wouldn't have been a First Order, that funding had to come from some place of legitimacy and it was indicated that the business persons likely had a very big hand in supporting the first order right up to it's inception as those people were likely all killed when Star Killer Base first fired, given that an entire solar system was full of habitable systems key to running the republic were completely wiped out. I'm sure one of Leia's books deals with exactly this; there are plenty of imperial holdouts who cling onto their way of life.

The short answer? Both is correct. Some people assume force users are somehow virtues, others hate them passionately and would have nothing more to do with them but burying them six feet under and a lot of leeway between those two extremes. I'm willing to wager that most people, bounty hunters included, don't really know or care about the differences between a Jedi, a emergent or anyone else; if someone is paying to hand force users in they will be happy to collect.

1 hour ago, LordBritish said:

I think it depends personally.

On one hand, it's difficult to shake up all the misinformation that the Jedi have been subjected to for a good twenty years and I imagine a large chunk of people blame, even hate them for starting the Clone Wars. On other side, there are people who disbelieve the Emperor's lies and hold Luke up as a bastion of good people, having slain the Sith in one sitting. So I doubt there will be a universal hunt, but like any good poltical demography, there are bound to be plenty of stupid people on both sides that claim the other is just wrong. I mean, if that wasn't the case there certainly wouldn't have been a First Order, that funding had to come from some place of legitimacy and it was indicated that the business persons likely had a very big hand in supporting the first order right up to it's inception as those people were likely all killed when Star Killer Base first fired, given that an entire solar system was full of habitable systems key to running the republic were completely wiped out. I'm sure one of Leia's books deals with exactly this; there are plenty of imperial holdouts who cling onto their way of life.

The short answer? Both is correct. Some people assume force users are somehow virtues, others hate them passionately and would have nothing more to do with them but burying them six feet under and a lot of leeway between those two extremes. I'm willing to wager that most people, bounty hunters included, don't really know or care about the differences between a Jedi, a emergent or anyone else; if someone is paying to hand force users in they will be happy to collect.

If you look at the last couple episodes i think most people have no clue what a force user is. The Mandalorian had no clue. While the Armoror remembered. So those born After Order 66 likely think they are a myth at best. Those born before are probably like Lord British said. Some blame them for what happened. Some see them as saviors.

With the Empire out of power, there's no galaxy-wide government-sponsored hunt for Force users, Jedi or not. So at least your three PCs won't have to worry about Imperial-sanctioned hunters (be they Inquisitors or something else) breathing down their necks just because they can use the Force.

As for the attitude the rest of the galaxy's denizens will have... that's very much going to vary, as LordBritish mentioned. Granted, not everyone knows what the Force even is (assuming the principle cast of the Mandalorian aren't just especially clueless in that regard*). There's probably so much folk lore about the Force that a lot of people may not necessarily recognize Force powers as being the Force. For some, the Force is simply the name of the religious doctrine those crackpot Jedi followed before the Empire wiped them out, so when seeing mystical abilities actually used, they'd refer to is "magic" and not make the connection that it's the same Force that the Jedi worshipped.

It's probably also worth mentioning that we don't really know what Luke is up to in that particular time frame. He could very well have "retired" from active galactic adventuring to focus on further mastering his Force abilities and expanding his understanding and comprehension of the Jedi and their beliefs, the later of which was something that his crash-course training under Yoda didn't provide much of. So it may well be that Luke is talked about in past tense, as this great hero of the Rebellion that professed to be a member of a defunct religious sect that somehow managed to topple both Vader and the Emperor at the same time.

Another element to consider is the Church of the Force. I don't think there's much official information, but with the Empire's fall, said organization started to operate more in the open, trying to preserve and recover as much lore about the Force and the Jedi in particular as possible. With your campaign only being a few years after the Empire's fall, they probably haven't done much to get the word out about the Force, but they very likely do exist, and might be an organization your PCs encounter.

*Personally, I think that show went too far with the cast having zero clue about the Force; if anything the Ugnaught should have known what the Force was and called it as such. It almost feels like it's an overreaction on Favreau's part to avoid having the series associated with Jedi or the Skywalker Saga to not have anyone clue in that The Child is using the Force, especially as all of the principles are old enough to have at least been children during the Clone Wars, when the Jedi were a rather prominent thing, even if not very many folks actually met a Jedi, especially if you lived on the Outer Rim. Heck, even old spacers would likely be chatting about the Force, especially as Luke Skywalker came to prominence as one of the Rebellion's greatest heroes, and Luke was never shy about his belief in the Force.

Many thanks for the responses, gives me a few ideas to work with.

Particularly like the idea that Force Users could now been seen as assets by Imperial Warlords, puts a different spin on things I think... also gives a reason for Bounty Hunters to still be looking for them.

After all, in this period, Imperial resources are likely to be scattered and/or minimal so it makes perfect sense for them to employ experts in hunting to bring these assets in. In the meantime they can concentrate on consolidating any base of power that they have.

Have to admit I'd also forgotten all about The Church of the Force... I'm starting the characters out as fairly low level (not sure whether to kick off at Knight Level or not yet) and The Church could be a useful resource for them as either an ally or as a teacher.

Excellent... Cheers guys 😃

Even in the time of the Republic, when Jedi were involved in the government and got involved in various situations across the galaxy....few people understood the Jedi and their power. Fewer yet actually saw it in action. Jedi didn't swing lightsabers in public on a daily basis. They also didn't use force powers all willy nilly to get better deals on space apples at the space farmer's market.

The vast majority of people probably saw the Jedi as just some sort of government advisors. Silly people wearing cloaks and hanging out in libraries and temples all day. Religious think tanks that had government influence.

After the clone wars, these shadowy people all but vanished. 20 years have gone by since the last of their kind had been spotted. If you are 20 or under, you might likely have never heard of them. Even if you are say 35 or under, it's unlikely you know about them unless you directly witnessed them or were specifically told by your parents. The random crackpot or two that tell stories about Jedi probably come off like some guy telling you about the time he saw the loch ness monster or bigfoot. Even if you are say 50 years old, and were in your late 20s during the clone wars....your most striking impression of the Jedi would be religious government advisers that acted as generals in the war. You were told they turned against the government in a coup, but still, the idea of their powers and lightsabers isn't something that was really well known.

A robed figure with a lightsaber post Ep6 would just be seen as some oddball with a quirky weapon. I doubt most people would even connect the dots between you and the Jedi.

High ranking Imperial officials would be weary of any reports of you in their territory, and would like to gain control of you somehow. High ranking rebels would also likewise want to recruit you. Luke would be wanting to start his Jedi school, so he might be paying attention. High ranking powerful crime syndicate members might be aware of Jedi and again want to use you for their own purposes.

All in all, I don't think you'd garner any more attention than a Mandalorian, a wookiee with armor and a giant vibroaxe, or any other over-the-top armored/armed member of an RPG group.

18 hours ago, kmanweiss said:

High ranking Imperial officials would be weary of any reports of you in their territory, and would like to gain control of you somehow.

I don't know if this is a case of DYA or something else, but it's more likely that they'd be wary .

There would have to be a lot of long, boring reports on the characters before the officials would become weary.

4 hours ago, Bellona said:

I don't know if this is a case of DYA or something else, but it's more likely that they'd be wary .

There would have to be a lot of long, boring reports on the characters before the officials would become weary.

LOL, yes, thank you, wary would be correct.

Of course if you have 3 jedi in a system causing continual problems from some Imperial warlord, he may become weary.

None of the following numbers are definitive. However...

Star Wars: The Essential Atlas states there are 50 million inhabited systems and 100 quadrillion sentients across the galaxy. Another source suggests there were about 10,000 Jedi at the time of Order 66.

In other words, the galaxy is a really, really big place. Only a relative few would have any interaction with the Jedi -- an ascetic religious order of protectors that most often worked behind the scenes and played little if any public role. Even before the fall of the Republic, Jedi were likely regarded as mysterious or even legendary by many.