On 4/16/2020 at 8:14 AM, Harlock999 said:Do you honestly believe the last four episodes have been truly worthwhile?
Totally. But I live for the world-building, backgrounds, the art, and camera shots. And I enjoyed the slow pace, the caution Ahsoka shows trying to figure out how to navigate this situation as "not a Jedi". I wouldn't say the story arc itself was in the top tier of writing or pacing, but it was top of the middle for sure.
No further comments at this stage (might post some more in-depth thoughts at the end of the arc as a whole) but just stopping by to say - this was an amazing opening episode! Every frame shows the amount of time, effort and care that has gone into it.
IT. WAS. AWESOME .
That shot of the LAAT/i, LAAT/c, and Kom'rks.... Oh it was soo good. It exceeded my expectations, and the extra length was a nice surprise as well.
Bo Katan is still awesome, Ahsoka definitely was too, Rex and the boys were amazing as always. I have 0 complaints and only one minor critique: They overdid Anakin a bit in the opening sequence.
I thought it was great seeing Rook, Gar Saxon, and the Mauldalorians because it's an interesting counter to the clones. Previously, all we've gotten for that are droids, and they are not organics and are not skilled. With the Maulndalorians, it puts the clones on a different footing. Especially once you include Rook and Gar Saxon since they are counterpoints to hero clones like Rex. Saxon's helmet and armor look amazing .
Ahsoka riding crashing troop transports down to the city and slashing the floor with her sabers when landing was so awesome...
1 hour ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:Previously, all we've gotten for that are droids, and they are not organics and are not skilled.
We've had the Umbarans, and various smaller-scale engagements like fighting the Zygerrian slavers.
Just now, Stan Fresh said:We've had the Umbarans, and various smaller-scale engagements like fighting the Zygerrian slavers.
True with the Umbarans. I hadn't thought of them. That was a great arc.
I guess what the Mauldalorians had over them would be the characters like Saxon and Rook.
The Zygerrians weren't really on the same level though, and (as you mentioned) not at the same scale, so I wouldn't count them. I had thought of the Geonosians, but I wasn't counting them for a couple reasons, not least of which being that they used battle droids quite heavily.
On 4/16/2020 at 9:08 AM, Daeglan said:My only issue is some of the weirdly stupid decisions that Trace made...
I actually didn't have a problem with it. (I'm assuming you mean the spice dump...I guess those space whales are going to have a trippy feast... 🙂 )
I mean, they were dumb decisions, but she was a quirky character, a bit naive, out of her element, and close to panic. Her one pride and joy (her ship) was in peril. Now, they could have developed her a bit better leading up to that decision, but every thing in Star Wars is a shortcut/archetype, and there's rarely time for bit characters to be fleshed out fully, so... didn't bother me.
They were stupid in-character decisions, which makes them interesting. She was clearly overwhelmed with the situation and might even have some mental issues with how she talked to herself there and zoned out.
Well, #9 was a total treat. Anybody else catch Depa Billaba and that padawan-who-survives...? 🙂
Just dropping by again to say, “Now that’s more like it.”
LOVED the ninth episode!
2 hours ago, Harlock999 said:Just dropping by again to say, “Now that’s more like it.”
LOVED the ninth episode!
You needed the last 4 to get the context of this 4.
15 hours ago, RuusMarev said:Well, we are in Episode 3 now.. This episode is basically taking place during the opening crawl 😄
When I saw the opening I thought we might get an opening crawl instead of the usual narrator.
4 hours ago, Daeglan said:You needed the last 4 to get the context of this 4.
No. No you didn’t.
The previous story could have (a) been told in one or two installments (with an understood time gap) or (b) been crafted with more interesting characters, situations, and development for Ashoka. But, instead, the last four-parter was a plodding dud that accomplished nothing except for Ashoka to realize “hey, some people don’t really like the Jedi all the time.”
...which is something she could have simply reported to Anakin and/or Rex in this past episode (with the audience assuming a time gap), saving us a world of boredom/pain.
5 hours ago, Harlock999 said:No. No you didn’t.
The previous story could have (a) been told in one or two installments (with an understood time gap) or (b) been crafted with more interesting characters, situations, and development for Ashoka. But, instead, the last four-parter was a plodding dud that accomplished nothing except for Ashoka to realize “hey, some people don’t really like the Jedi all the time.”
...which is something she could have simply reported to Anakin and/or Rex in this past episode (with the audience assuming a time gap), saving us a world of boredom/pain.
While I wouldn’t place Ahsoka’s walkabout in my favorite Clone Wars stories, I felt neither boredom nor pain, so kindly exclude this “me” from “us,” please. Could it have been done in fewer episodes? Sure. There aren’t many arcs from the series that went beyond two episodes that the same can’t be said of. And, I found them interesting enough that I’ve already been mentally doodling ideas for one of my groups to encounter a middle-aged Trace and Rafa Martez.
All of which signifies nothing other than, as always, mileage varies.
Edited by Nytwyng5 hours ago, Harlock999 said:that accomplished nothing except for Ashoka to realize “hey, some people don’t really like the Jedi all the time.”
Well that and it shed more light on the deeper seedier parts of Coruscant and its denizens. And the spice trade. And Kessel. And the Pikes. And a lot more things that I, as a worldbuilding enthusiast, really welcomed.
5 hours ago, Harlock999 said:The previous story could have (a) been told in one or two installments
Yeah, I thought these last four (5-8) were a bit dull as well. Bit of a dud. Not terrible, but felt kind of wasted when there don't seem to be that many episodes left. Are there really only 4 left?! That means only 12 all up?! (well I guess that would be 3 left, since I just watched #9). Too few episodes (if that is true) to be wasting some on the Trace n Rafa stuff.
Also, were Anakin and Obi Wan going to fight that battle at the beginning of Rev o' the Sith? I assume that's what they were going to do... gave it a nice feeling of significance or gravitas... like these episodes now really are starting to matter and aren't just filler. Looking forward to the next 3. Are they going to explain how Rex and a few others escaped Order 66? I assume so.
One of the "Mauldalorians" kind of had Sabine hair... for a second there I thought... but then I did the math... she would have been like 2 years old or something I guess... couple years older than Ezra who was born a few days after this, on "Empire Day".
Just now, Mandalore of the Rings said:Also, were Anakin and Obi Wan going to fight that battle at the beginning of Rev o' the Sith? I assume that's what they were going to do... gave it a nice feeling of significance or gravitas... like these episodes now really are starting to matter and aren't just filler. Looking forward to the next 3. Are they going to explain how Rex and a few others escaped Order 66? I assume so.
Yes on all counts, I believe.
1 minute ago, Mandalore of the Rings said:One of the "Mauldalorians" kind of had Sabine hair... for a second there I thought... but then I did the math... she would have been like 2 years old or something I guess... couple years older than Ezra who was born a few days after this, on "Empire Day".
That's Rook. First introduced in the Son of Dathomir comic book series (canon). Definitely not Sabine unless she ages in reverse.
2 minutes ago, Mandalore of the Rings said:Yeah, I thought these last four (5-8) were a bit dull as well. Bit of a dud. Not terrible, but felt kind of wasted when there don't seem to be that many episodes left. Are there really only 4 left?! That means only 12 all up?! (well I guess that would be 3 left, since I just watched #9). Too few episodes (if that is true) to be wasting some on the Trace n Rafa stuff.
It does look like these last episodes might be longer though, so we may actually get more total watch time than season 6. However, it might have just been the first episode.
I was disappointed with the Trace and Rafa arc, 4 episodes was definitely too long for it. 3 would've probably been enough. When you look at what happened in part 3 of that arc, you could've condensed that into the previous episode. They started off captured, they ended up captured. If you look at what changed, you can probably condense that into the other episodes pretty easily, especially the part about the Mandalorians. I also don't find the arc all that memorable, even compared to minor arcs I last watched several years ago.
13 hours ago, whafrog said:Anybody else catch Depa Billaba and that padawan-who-survives...?
Kanan Potter? Or Harry Dume? Very cool. Maybe he'll get a little screen time in another episode?
23 hours ago, DanteRotterdam said:Ahsoka riding crashing troop transports down to the city and slashing the floor with her sabers when landing was so awesome...
Indeed! That was great.
13 hours ago, Harlock999 said:Just dropping by again to say, “Now that’s more like it.”
Yeah, totally different level of excitement compared to the previous 4. I watched those and thought, "cool, more Star Wars, I guess". Watched these and told my kids "I'm not deleting this episode for sure! Let's watch it again in a couple days!"
Gotta say, most of the final season of Rebels had me feeling like this... Like, oh, I'm kinda sad this is ending, I wish there was more... So it seems CW will finish on a good note.
6 minutes ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:That's Rook.
OK, thanks. Didn't remember her from older CW episodes. Cool character. Maybe she could be the Blacksmith or Forger or whatever that character is called in The Mandalorian. Probably not. Fun seeing Ursa Wren in action. I wonder what that Concord Dawn guy that they befriended in Rebels is up to... I forget his name. He was a cool character too and would be at a good age in this timeline. I think it started with F... hahaha
Fenn Rau! Gave up and looked it up. Another cool character.
4 minutes ago, Mandalore of the Rings said:OK, thanks. Didn't remember her from older CW episodes. Cool character. Maybe she could be the Blacksmith or Forger or whatever that character is called in The Mandalorian. Probably not. Fun seeing Ursa Wren in action. I wonder what that Concord Dawn guy that they befriended in Rebels is up to... I forget his name. He was a cool character too and would be at a good age in this timeline. I think it started with F... hahaha
Yeah, probably not. I know we're Star Wars fans, but not
everything
has to be connected.
Fenn Rau, a member of the Mandalorian Protectors. He flew air support for Depa Billaba and Caleb Dume as the leader of Skull Squadron, a squadron of Fang Fighters. Basically the Canon equivalent of the Cuy'val Dar from what I remember.
Edited by P-47 Thunderbolt5 minutes ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:but not everything has to be connected.
But I thought the Force connected everything and bound everything together (included unfinished plots and minor characters and surprise grand daughters)
Anyone else think Rook Kast looks like a goth Sabine Wren? 😁 😁
2 hours ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:Yeah, probably not. I know we're Star Wars fans, but not everything has to be connected.
This! I'd prefer more episodes or shows where they aren't. People try too hard cram the infinite into such a tiny space.
2 hours ago, whafrog said:People try too hard cram the infinite into such a tiny space.
I agree. I wasn't trying to say I want Blacksmith or whatever she goes by to be someone we already know, was just saying it might turn out that way (like Rey had to be "someone", which I found kind of annoying). We'll see.