25 minutes ago, whafrog said:

It's just that, for a historical-political-anthropological junkie, the PT is far more satisfying, and still contains all the above.

Unfortunately, this is the part that turns most of the public off.

Personally, I loved the plot of the prequels, it’s the dialogue in the romance scenes that I don’t like. I blame Lucas for that, both Christian Hayden and Natalie Portman have performed better since the AoC, working with other directors.

American Graffiti was probably the best dialog of any of the Lucas films.

46 minutes ago, Eoen said:

Unfortunately, this is the part that turns most of the public off.

Personally, I loved the plot of the prequels, it’s the dialogue in the romance scenes that I don’t like. I blame Lucas for that, both Christian Hayden and Natalie Portman have performed better since the AoC, working with other directors.

American Graffiti was probably the best dialog of any of the Lucas films.

Lucas is a terrible director. He is an awesome Producer when those under him are willing to give him some pushback on bad ideas.

2 hours ago, Daeglan said:

Lucas is a terrible director. He is an awesome Producer when those under him are willing to give him some pushback on bad ideas.

Lucas is absolutely a world class producer, and astute business man, he built an entire industry around one film franchise.

***Spoiler*** episode 3

"Oh, that wasn't part of the plan. Those things can fly"

Those enhanced B1s are much better flyers than they are ground troops. Now their design makes a lot more since to me.

I guess everyone got off track about season 7 episode 1 as it looks like the Kaminos played around with mutations and the Clones and so you can do a campaign with mutated clones as a special arc trooper group.

This week's episode was probably the best yet! I think it had the most original content, and the clip of the Republic swooping in on the facility was just gorgeous . I've missed Clone Wars so much. Oh it's beautiful. And we got our first preview of jetpack combat!! I'm so excited for the Mandalore episodes!

Some parts of Kessel have trees! A royal family!

Yeah, that surprised me too... Definitely an even bigger departure from the Legends version than Solo. Quite interesting.

I'm still enjoying it, but this arc with Ahsoka hasn't been all that good in my estimation. It's probably a combination of Ahsoka being out of her element, at least 66% of the characters being idiots at least 66% of the time, and no clones.

I think they look good, but does anyone else think they aged Ahsoka and Yularen a bit too quickly?

It’s 3-4 years after the start of the clone wars she’s gone from 14 to 18, and at least human women mature a lot in those years.

Yolaran, has to be in his late 40’s to early 50’s.

I also wonder if this episode takes place before the season 6 episode where Anakin and Kenobi visit Obadia? The leader of the Pikes is a different Pike.

5 minutes ago, Eoen said:

It’s 3-4 years after the start of the clone wars she’s gone from 14 to 18, and at least human women mature a lot in those years.

Yolaran, has to be in his late 40’s to early 50’s.

I'm not referring to season 1 to season 7, I'm referring to season 5 to season 7. It just seems like a pretty big jump. Wouldn't question the jump between 1 and 7.

6 minutes ago, Eoen said:

I also wonder if this episode takes place before the season 6 episode where Anakin and Kenobi visit Obadia? The leader of the Pikes is a different Pike.

No, I'm pretty sure that isn't the case. I doubt that the leader of a galaxy-spanning syndicate would meet with entry-level smugglers. That would be the local Pyke shipping manager or whatever, or someone who just handles the day-to-day operations on Oba Diah.

46 minutes ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

I'm not referring to season 1 to season 7, I'm referring to season 5 to season 7. It just seems like a pretty big jump. Wouldn't question the jump between 1 and 7.

Well stress can age a person, just look at how American Presidents age so much in office like Obama looked a lot older at the end of his 8 years (or maybe that’s the effects of the satanic pacts politicians make?).

5 minutes ago, Eoen said:

Well stress can age a person, just look at how American Presidents age so much in office like Obama looked a lot older at the end of his 8 years.

Like I said. I wouldn't question the difference between seasons 1 and 7, it's the significant change in just the couple months between 5 and 7 that strikes me as odd. (plus, I doubt montral growth is affected by stress)

58 minutes ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

Like I said. I wouldn't question the difference between seasons 1 and 7, it's the significant change in just the couple months between 5 and 7 that strikes me as odd. (plus, I doubt montral growth is affected by stress)

Your discounting the fact that in season 5 Ashoka is noticeably older as well. Not to mention the terrorism trial went through.

Also the animators have all gotten 8 years older.

I just skimmed through some season 5 episodes it looks like the same character model to me, the montrails look really close. Maybe it’s her wardrobe change you picking up on, short skirts have a tendency to make women look younger.

7 minutes ago, Eoen said:

Your discounting the fact that in season 5 Ashoka is noticeably older as well. Not to mention the terrorism trial went through.

No, I'm not at all. Every couple seasons, they aged her a bit. Seasons 5-7 (the space of a couple months), her montrals grow a full two stripes longer, and that comes out to about 5-6 inches or so (about 2-3 inches a month). That can't really be attributed to stress. At the end of season 5, they come down to about her chest. In season 7, they almost reach her belt which is just above her hips.
Looking at Ahsoka season 1 vs. 3 (when they updated the models for the main characters), there is a bit of a change. Season 3 to 5, I'm not sure how much changes, but it looks like a little bit. Season 5-7 is a huge jump.

Don't get me wrong, I think she looks great and they did a phenomenal job, it's just a bit jarring.

Yularen graying is different, but it still feels like a jump to me.

9 minutes ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

No, I'm not at all. Every couple seasons, they aged her a bit. Seasons 5-7 (the space of a couple months), her montrals grow a full two stripes longer, and that comes out to about 5-6 inches or so (about 2-3 inches a month). That can't really be attributed to stress. At the end of season 5, they come down to about her chest. In season 7, they almost reach her belt which is just above her hips.
Looking at Ahsoka season 1 vs. 3 (when they updated the models for the main characters), there is a bit of a change. Season 3 to 5, I'm not sure how much changes, but it looks like a little bit. Season 5-7 is a huge jump.

Don't get me wrong, I think she looks great and they did a phenomenal job, it's just a bit jarring.

Yularen graying is different, but it still feels like a jump to me.

That last picture I agree but it’s also the season finale, that could be months away chronologically, human women mature rapidly in their late teens.

Also they are likely trying to bridge her look in The Clone Wars and how she appears in Rebels 16 years later.

Just now, Eoen said:

That last picture I agree but it’s also the season finale, that could be months away chronologically.

It can't. The timeline is too condensed. The Jedi Temple bombing happened in 19 BBY. Order 66 happened in the 2nd month of 19 BBY. Plus, that was simply the best picture. There were other pictures from the two released episodes that had the same montral length and number of stripes, they just weren't as good for referencing length in comparison to her body.

(extrapolated by cross-referencing with the First Battle of Geonosis and the Battle of Yavin to convert GRS to BBY)

8 minutes ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

It can't. The timeline is too condensed. The Jedi Temple bombing happened in 19 BBY. Order 66 happened in the 2nd month of 19 BBY. Plus, that was simply the best picture. There were other pictures from the two released episodes that had the same montral length and number of stripes, they just weren't as good for referencing length in comparison to her body.

(extrapolated by cross-referencing with the First Battle of Geonosis and the Battle of Yavin to convert GRS to BBY)

The general timeline of Star Wars has never made much sense, they are always retconning the chronology, or throwing it out, it’s almost as bad as the Marvel timeline. It would help if they actually had an in universe calendar instead of counting backwards from a New Hope.

36 minutes ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

No, I'm not at all. Every couple seasons, they aged her a bit. Seasons 5-7 (the space of a couple months), her montrals grow a full two stripes longer, and that comes out to about 5-6 inches or so (about 2-3 inches a month). That can't really be attributed to stress. At the end of season 5, they come down to about her chest. In season 7, they almost reach her belt which is just above her hips.
Looking at Ahsoka season 1 vs. 3 (when they updated the models for the main characters), there is a bit of a change. Season 3 to 5, I'm not sure how much changes, but it looks like a little bit. Season 5-7 is a huge jump.

Don't get me wrong, I think she looks great and they did a phenomenal job, it's just a bit jarring.

Yularen graying is different, but it still feels like a jump to me.

No. But that kind of growth is normal. Look at how much some teenagers grow in a couple months.

1 minute ago, Daeglan said:

No. But that kind of growth is normal. Look at how much some teenagers grow in a couple months.

Hard to disprove when we don't know Togruta physiology, but 6 inches in 2 months seems quite extreme, especially given the otherwise slow growth of her lekku* over the previous 2-3 years. (she's ~17 in season 7)

Could be that they don't start really growing until the Togruta in question is about 17, and then they begin growing rapidly until they reach their adult length.

23 minutes ago, Eoen said:

The general timeline of Star Wars has never made much sense, they are always retconning the chronology, or throwing it out, it’s almost as bad as the Marvel timeline. It would help if they actually had an in universe calendar instead of counting backwards from a New Hope.

Legends did, at least. The Great ReSynchronization was the Legends dating method, and many Clone Wars battles have dates attached to them, though that's largely for books and not the Clone Wars show (Battle of Jabiim, Battle of Atraken, etc. etc.). For my purposes, I typically convert those timings to BBY using the Battle of Yavin as a bench mark since it was the 0 mark for BBY and also has a date attached for the GRS. Then I try to deduce where events that don't have a precise date fit into the timeline, and fortunately, I don't have to do that very often.

In the Thrawn novels, Luke actually references and complains about how frequently the dating systems are shifted based on who is in power and how confusing it makes dating things.

Someday, I would love for someone (or a bunch of someones) to sit down and come up with an entirely new dating system predating the High Republic era by a couple thousand years and work everything into the timeline with precise dates. Even better would be if the Battle of Yavin conveniently happened on New Years Day.
That is a book I would definitely buy.

*Turns out they are actually called lekku, not montrals. Montrals are the horn-like things on top. My bad. Always had that confused.

1 hour ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

Hard to disprove when we don't know Togruta physiology, but 6 inches in 2 months seems quite extreme, especially given the otherwise slow growth of her lekku* over the previous 2-3 years. (she's ~17 in season 7)

Could be that they don't start really growing until the Togruta in question is about 17, and then they begin growing rapidly until they reach their adult length.

Legends did, at least. The Great ReSynchronization was the Legends dating method, and many Clone Wars battles have dates attached to them, though that's largely for books and not the Clone Wars show (Battle of Jabiim, Battle of Atraken, etc. etc.). For my purposes, I typically convert those timings to BBY using the Battle of Yavin as a bench mark since it was the 0 mark for BBY and also has a date attached for the GRS. Then I try to deduce where events that don't have a precise date fit into the timeline, and fortunately, I don't have to do that very often.

In the Thrawn novels, Luke actually references and complains about how frequently the dating systems are shifted based on who is in power and how confusing it makes dating things.

Someday, I would love for someone (or a bunch of someones) to sit down and come up with an entirely new dating system predating the High Republic era by a couple thousand years and work everything into the timeline with precise dates. Even better would be if the Battle of Yavin conveniently happened on New Years Day.
That is a book I would definitely buy.

*Turns out they are actually called lekku, not montrals. Montrals are the horn-like things on top. My bad. Always had that confused.

I have friends who grew 6 inches in 2 months so I dont find it so odd

7 hours ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

Yeah, that surprised me too... Definitely an even bigger departure from the Legends version than Solo.

I'm fine with that. I've never been a big fan of Space Potato that KJA inflicted upon us for decades

Filoni's Revenge!

Really enjoyed the latest episode. But the choice of Kessel was great. The first episode of Rebels made it very clear how little 3D space Disney was going to pay animators for. The shots of Kessel were so disjointed, no great sweeping pans, just a far shot and then everything after was a tight shot. Nice to see a full view of it all in classic TCW fashion.

I think Ursula Wren is in the latest episode with Bo Katan in a short scene.

5 hours ago, Eoen said:

I think Ursula Wren in the latest episode with Bo Katan in a short scene.

Maybe...

That scene was definitely the best part of this whole story arc so far. I gotta say this arc feels like filler while we wait for the Mandalore arc.

2 hours ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

Maybe...

That scene was definitely the best part of this whole story arc so far. I gotta say this arc feels like filler while we wait for the Mandalore arc.

There was plenty of action in this episode. I love the Pykes I'm glad there's more show's with them. Its to bad the son of Dathomir episodes are never getting animated.