Is it possible to use the Profundity effect to equip Bail to a small ship? Bail can only be used on a medium or large ship, but generally fleet building restrictions only apply during fleet building...

No, you can't. At least I don't see any evidence indicating that that restriction only applies for fleet building.

It cannot.

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Size-Restricted Upgrade Card Trait: A ship cannot equip an upgrade card if that ship is not of a size class specified by that upgrade card's size-restriction trait.

Profundity:

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...At the start of any round, you may deploy the set-aside ship at distance 1. You may un-equip up to 1 [Commander] and 1 [Officer] upgrade cards and equip them to it (if able).

So you are still actively equipping during the game. Since you're equipping, you have to check if it can be equipped, which Bail cannot.

36 minutes ago, Lemmiwinks86 said:

No, you can't. At least I don't see any evidence indicating that that restriction only applies for fleet building.

Well there is precedence, specifically officers or upgrade cards that give additional upgrade card slots such as tua. If vader kills tua your ship doesnt loose ecms.

9 minutes ago, Astrodar said:

It cannot.

Profundity:

So you are still actively equipping during the game. Since you're equipping, you have to check if it can be equipped, which Bail cannot.

So you are saying because of the use of the word "equip" this is not possible. Hmm. Where is that size restricted upgrade card trait quote from? Cheers

5 minutes ago, RapidReload said:

Where is that size restricted upgrade card trait quote from? Cheers

The Rules Sheet for the Profundity.


And indeed, any other expansion that has a Size-Restricted card.

3 minutes ago, RapidReload said:

So you are saying because of the use of the word "equip" this is not possible. Hmm. Where is that size restricted upgrade card trait quote from? Cheers

Exactly. Since you are using an effect (“equip”) you must still abide by the rules of that effect.

The size restriction rule is in any expansion insert that contained one of those cards. In this case, I had the Chimera insert handy, though the Profundity insert should have it as well.

What about discarded officers like Lando?

discarded officers are no longer considered in play. So nope.

Whoops, I was wrong, you can move them but then you have a discarded officer on the small ship.

This makes the officer aspect to Profundity rather useless, but oh well. I cant find an officer that I am allowed and would want to switch to the Hammerhead.

4 hours ago, RapidReload said:

This makes the officer aspect to Profundity rather useless

It is a bit useless, but it's also not the main point of Profundity. Now it is a bit more useful with the Raddus changes (you can move Raddus onto the Profundity-dropped ship and then drop in the Raddus-ship from that), but there aren't many officers you'd want to move across.

In a year or so of playing Profundity regularly, I think I used it a couple of times - moving Lando onto the hammerhead to give it a better chance of surviving when second player. But generally if there was an officer you want on the dropped ship, you'd put them there from the start.

1 minute ago, Grumbleduke said:

It is a bit useless, but it's also not the main point of Profundity. Now it is a bit more useful with the Raddus changes (you can move Raddus onto the Profundity-dropped ship and then drop in the Raddus-ship from that), but there aren't many officers you'd want to move across.

In a year or so of playing Profundity regularly, I think I used it a couple of times - moving Lando onto the hammerhead to give it a better chance of surviving when second player. But generally if there was an officer you want on the dropped ship, you'd put them there from the start.

That, and you give up the officer slot on the profundity.

12 hours ago, Karneck said:

discarded officers are no longer considered in play. So nope.

Please update KARM then because I was asked the same question yesterday and was looking up the Karnacks Anecdotes Regarding Mooses for guidance.

The one time I used Profundity, I won the game by 5 MOV, because I'd managed to shove Adar Tallon out with it, preserving his points as the Profundity Exploded...

Very Niche.

But Memorable to me.

2 hours ago, Drasnighta said:

The one time I used Profundity, I won the game by 5 MOV, because I'd managed to shove Adar Tallon out with it, preserving his points as the Profundity Exploded...

Very Niche.

But Memorable to me.

Well, if you are building a list that intends to save the officer points in this way, you are already expecting Prof to die, which admittedly it often does, but still :-).

Just for argument's sake and to be really exhaustive, if there was an officer that would activate at the start of the round and that was an exhaust, could you activate him, move him to the HH and use him again? Would he be equipped exhausted?

4 hours ago, RealVeers said:

Please update KARM then because I was asked the same question yesterday and was looking up the Karnacks Anecdotes Regarding Mooses for guidance.

Wait nope, I was wrong.
@RapidReload and @RealVeers

You can move the discarded officer, but it remains discarded. This is because a discarded card still counts for points to the ship it is equipped too when/if a ship is destroyed. The officer does remain discarded though.

And yes. Moving an officer that was exhausted, would not unexhaust that officer.