First Stan, you're being a negative Nellie and a very bad part of the community right now. Yes, by all means throw a caveat to new players saying "FFG haven't announced any new books." but to be all "Games dead brah, just thought you should know before you buy" is a very negative take. It's not like the game only has two books, it has a plethora of content for it. Besides, we've been in a similar situation before. If a year from now we've got no announcements, then I think it would be safe to declare the game no longer supported.

Anyway, back on target.

I was surprised when someone told me we had not received stats for the Executor-class Super Star Destroyer so I would love to see stats for that in the book.

27 minutes ago, Ebak said:

First Stan, you're being a negative Nellie and a very bad part of the community right now. Yes, by all means throw a caveat to new players saying "FFG haven't announced any new books." but to be all "Games dead brah, just thought you should know before you buy" is a very negative take. It's not like the game only has two books, it has a plethora of content for it. Besides, we've been in a similar situation before. If a year from now we've got no announcements, then I think it would be safe to declare the game no longer supported.

And you're being a liar who makes up stuff I haven't actually said.

7 hours ago, Stan Fresh said:

No, it's the attitude of someone who has informed himself on the topic and isn't invested in presenting a facade of happiness about the less awesome aspects of the RPG industry, unlike you.

If you are so informed why is it you are all offended for something those who are freelancers are not upset about?

17 minutes ago, Daeglan said:

If you are so informed why is it you are all offended for something those who are freelancers are not upset about?

"offended"

Also, you never answered my questions: Why do you keep accusing me of doing things I haven't done? What is the purpose of such behavior?

I guess you all rather want to argue than speculate on which cool obscure ships might in the book.

14 minutes ago, Stan Fresh said:

"offended"

Also, you never answered my questions: Why do you keep accusing me of doing things I haven't done? What is the purpose of such behavior?

I guess you all rather want to argue than speculate on which cool obscure ships might in the book.

Making a big deal about freelancing that those who are freelancing are not complaining about seems silly. And because you very much have done them.

10 hours ago, Stan Fresh said:

Freelancing lacks most of the benefits that come with steady employment yet it requires the same work. It's exploitative.

Guess what, that person does not have to do it, and they are free to seek better employment elsewhere. Also, if you can create an RPG company that can pay the salary, taxes, and benefits of a large staff of full time employees and make money at the same time, then do it. You might be the only one who has figured out how to make it work long term.

You may be informed in some aspects of rpg creation but there is more to running a business in the real world than the actual typing in a word processor.

50 minutes ago, daggertx said:

Guess what, that person does not have to do it, and they are free to seek better employment elsewhere. Also, if you can create an RPG company that can pay the salary, taxes, and benefits of a large staff of full time employees and make money at the same time, then do it. You might be the only one who has figured out how to make it work long term.

You may be informed in some aspects of rpg creation but there is more to running a business in the real world than the actual typing in a word processor.

exactly.
WotC which is probably the biggest RPG company has to use freelancers to remain in business. Not because they dont want to give full benefits. but because they dont have the revenue stream to be able to operate in that manner.

Back to the original topic: I just received a shipping notice for S&S.

1 hour ago, daggertx said:

Guess what, that person does not have to do it, and they are free to seek better employment elsewhere.

What a vile attitude.

1 hour ago, daggertx said:

Also, if you can create an RPG company that can pay the salary, taxes, and benefits of a large staff of full time employees and make money at the same time, then do it. You might be the only one who has figured out how to make it work long term.

You may be informed in some aspects of rpg creation but there is more to running a business in the real world than the actual typing in a word processor.

Yeah, running a business without exploiting people is soooo hard, so let's not even try.

22 minutes ago, Mistervimes said:

Back to the original topic: I just received a shipping notice for S&S.

Cool. How long did previous books take to get to you?

3 minutes ago, Stan Fresh said:

What a vile attitude.

Yeah, running a business without exploiting people is soooo hard, so let's not even try.

I think it is a vile attitude to assume that someone who voluntarily enters into an arrangement is being exploited. Hint they aren't. both parties are getting something they want more. If they were being involuntarily forced to do something that would be exploitation.

It's nice of you, @Daeglan , to speak for all freelancers everywhere. I'm certain they have proudly ceded their voices to you as their representative.

30 minutes ago, Mistervimes said:

Back to the original topic: I just received a shipping notice for S&S.

Same here

8 minutes ago, Stan Fresh said:

Cool. How long did previous books take to get to you?

Honestly, I don't remember. It seems like it took longer than I would have wanted, but that's understandable.

Just now, Vek Baustrade said:

It's nice of you, @Daeglan , to speak for all freelancers everywhere. I'm certain they have proudly ceded their voices to you as their representative.

Because it is so terrible to tell someone who has decided someone else is being exploited that the arrangement is voluntary and thus not exploitation.

7 minutes ago, Daeglan said:

Because it is so terrible to tell someone who has decided someone else is being exploited that the arrangement is voluntary and thus not exploitation.

Voluntary and exploitative are not mutually exclusive.

2 minutes ago, Stan Fresh said:

Voluntary and exploitative are not mutually exclusive.

can see his point, though

has any of them hinted anywhere anytime they were exploited?

on another note to get back to topic: they recently reprinted dangerous covenant, that doesn't hint at the line ending if old books sell enough to be reprinted

3 minutes ago, MB -Fr- said:

can see his point, though

has any of them hinted anywhere anytime they were exploited?

We're not talking about the past, we're talking about Daeglan's suggestion that the former employees don't need to be rehired, they could just do the same work they did but without the benefits that come with steady employment.

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they recently reprinted dangerous covenant, that doesn't hint at the line ending if old books sell enough to be reprinted

Depends on the timing - people could have been let go while the print job was already contracted.

I'm glad to see reprints, but it's still only circumstancial evidence, one way or another.

3 minutes ago, Stan Fresh said:

Voluntary and exploitative are not mutually exclusive.

It isn't your place to decide if something is exploitative. It is up to the individual entering the arrangement. Your attitude tends to cause a lot of harm to people when you decide for them what it is ok for them to do because you want to protect them from something they never needed you to protect them from.

2 minutes ago, Daeglan said:

It isn't your place to decide if something is exploitative. It is up to the individual entering the arrangement. Your attitude tends to cause a lot of harm to people when you decide for them what it is ok for them to do because you want to protect them from something they never needed you to protect them from.

Okay, now you've completely uncoupled from reality.

Just now, Stan Fresh said:

We're not talking about the past, we're talking about Daeglan's suggestion that the former employees don't need to be rehired, they could just do the same work they did but without the benefits that come with steady employment.

Wow. I never said that. I said we don't necessarily need them to be rehired to continue the line. And we don't. And who knows they might bring in an RPG department down the road. We do not know what is really going on and why decisions are being made. To me it sounds like they are shuffling things around internally for whatever reason they are doing so. We arent privy to the information to make any judgements about what they are doing.

So, anyway: Are we gonna see story hooks for vehicles, like we had in Allies & Adversaries? Do people WANT them?

7 minutes ago, Stan Fresh said:

We're not talking about the past, we're talking about Daeglan's suggestion that the former employees don't need to be rehired, they could just do the same work they did but without the benefits that come with steady employment.

I skimmed the thread and haven't read anything of Daeglan saying that

Moving on

I sure wish for them to have the benefits of steady employment, but I assume they weren't put a gun under their chin "be a freelancer or gtfo"

They would have especially refused that kinda deal since they were fired I think. Since they accepted freelancing afterwards and none of those who accepted or refused went apesh*t on social media against FFG, it's pretty safe to assume they found the deal fair enough, and not too exploitative, more "sorry we can't afford you full time, we'll pay stuff if you still wanna work with us freelance"

If THEY say otherwise, that's another matter

But we're derailing the thread there

There's currently no hint the line is going on, but there's no hint it's ending either. Wait for an official stancebut I'm still personally quite hopeful. now the sequels are finished Disney will likely open the era and the interquel between the OT & ST. Even if not everyone liked the ST (I didn't), some did. And lots of people like the mandalorian.

So there's still a wealth of content to explore and sell

13 minutes ago, Stan Fresh said:

So, anyway: Are we gonna see story hooks for vehicles, like we had in Allies & Adversaries? Do people WANT them?

like flying the falcon for Hondo?

4 minutes ago, MB -Fr- said:

I skimmed the thread and haven't read anything of Daeglan saying that

Moving on

I sure wish for them to have the benefits of steady employment, but I assume they weren't put a gun under their chin "be a freelancer or gtfo"

They would have especially refused that kinda deal since they were fired I think. Since they accepted freelancing afterwards and none of those who accepted or refused went apesh*t on social media against FFG, it's pretty safe to assume they found the deal fair enough, and not too exploitative, more "sorry we can't afford you full time, we'll pay stuff if you still wanna work with us freelance"

If THEY say otherwise, that's another matter

But we're derailing the thread there

There's currently no hint the line is going on, but there's no hint it's ending either. Wait for an official stancebut I'm still personally quite hopeful. now the sequels are finished Disney will likely open the era and the interquel between the OT & ST. Even if not everyone liked the ST (I didn't), some did. And lots of people like the mandalorian.

So there's still a wealth of content to explore and sell

The time between the sequels and the OT is probably still locked due to the mandalorian. but the sequel era is probably now open and I would be surprised if the sequel stuff was already being worked on in whatever capacity they could while waiting for Rise of Skywalker to drop...