On 2/29/2020 at 3:08 AM, Sturn said:Still waiting for a shipped statement from from Amazon. Kinda got me worried I'm gonna get a "Sorry" message instead.
So Amazon still says "Arriving Tuesday", but it's showing as not shipped yet. That Amazon Prime 2-day shipping better kick in I'm getting jittery.
1 hour ago, Eoen said:Why would they even care the entire RPG market makes less in a year than it EA’s budget for development of one video game. They’re never going to make RPG game PDFs.
I’d wager they don’t care one way or the other about the pen and paper RPG market. However, freeing up PDFs would require both the tabletop and electronic/video gaming contracts‘ terms to be renegotiated. Assuming, for a moment, that all three involved parties (FFG, EA, and LFL) feel it’s worth sitting down at the same time to do so, EA has absolutely no incentive to do so. Getting the terms of the contract changed to do something that has no benefit or drawback for EA also opens the door to changes that net a negative impact to EA. It’s happened before when the toy license was renegotiated years ago, so there’s precedent. I don’t see what’s in it for EA to go to that table.
43 minutes ago, Nytwyng said:I’d wager they don’t care one way or the other about the pen and paper RPG market. However, freeing up PDFs would require both the tabletop and electronic/video gaming contracts‘ terms to be renegotiated. Assuming, for a moment, that all three involved parties (FFG, EA, and LFL) feel it’s worth sitting down at the same time to do so, EA has absolutely no incentive to do so. Getting the terms of the contract changed to do something that has no benefit or drawback for EA also opens the door to changes that net a negative impact to EA. It’s happened before when the toy license was renegotiated years ago, so there’s precedent. I don’t see what’s in it for EA to go to that table.
especially given their less than stellar score with the star wars franchise these last years
let us also remember that they are at the source of the current loot boxes/gambling controversy with battlefront 2,shut down several projects that were well received, etc...
up until recent fallen order, their results were pretty abysmal. No doubt they would be a lot less enthousiastic about renegociating the license than disney would be
1 hour ago, Nytwyng said:I’d wager they don’t care one way or the other about the pen and paper RPG market. However, freeing up PDFs would require both the tabletop and electronic/video gaming contracts‘ terms to be renegotiated. Assuming, for a moment, that all three involved parties (FFG, EA, and LFL) feel it’s worth sitting down at the same time to do so, EA has absolutely no incentive to do so. Getting the terms of the contract changed to do something that has no benefit or drawback for EA also opens the door to changes that net a negative impact to EA. It’s happened before when the toy license was renegotiated years ago, so there’s precedent. I don’t see what’s in it for EA to go to that table.
Your just laying out a case for the elimination of all lawyers world wide 😈.
On another note...I see that Fully Operational's Haven-class mobile space dock has been renamed the Harbor-class mobile space dock for Starships and Speeders.
The Illustration of the Marauder-Class Assault Corvette has people walking outside of the ship at a base I assume, the ships compliment says 177 crew, the scale seems wrong. There’s no way 177 people of that size are fitting in that ship.
Edited by Eoen25 minutes ago, Eoen said:There’s no way 177 people of that size are fitting in that ship.
Well... not with THAT attitude.
6 minutes ago, KalEl814 said:Well... not with THAT attitude.
Packed in tomato sauce like sardines maybe. 😎😜
Just now, Eoen said:Packed in tomato sauce like sardines maybe. 😎😜
They sell 55 gallon drums of personal lubricant on amazon, I'm just out here to tell you that if there's a will, there's a way.
Just now, KalEl814 said:They sell 55 gallon drums of personal lubricant on amazon, I'm just out here to tell you that if there's a will, there's a way.
I went to the circus when I was a kid, maybe it’s like a clown car.
I totally want a Skyblade-330 Swoop for my real life. Can one of you engineers hurry up an invent repulser tech?
Edited by Eoen57 minutes ago, Eoen said:The Illustration of the Marauder-Class Assault Corvette has people walking outside of the ship at a base I assume, the ships compliment says 177 crew, the scale seems wrong. There’s no way 177 people of that size are fitting in that ship.
Don't forget that there are supposed to be 12 fighters and 2 shuttles packed into that thing too.
Probably just scaled poorly in the picture. It's listed as nearly 200 meters long from stem to stern, and 130 wide (about equivalent to three football fields, two next to each other and one slapped cross-ways in front). Should be able to easily fit 170 people and a couple shuttles, though the squadron of fighter might be pushing it a little bit (though I think they could manage).
The picture of it in the EotE CRB is definitely way too small. It comes out to roughly 30 meters with a quick comparison to the figures nearby. Is this the same picture as the one in SaS?
7 hours ago, MB -Fr- said:you expect EA, voted several times worst business in the world, and notoriously "these are not loot boxes but surprise mechanics" greedy to make intelligent decisions where money is concerned?
regardless of logic, legalese wording on the license with disney apparently involves all digital and electronic content related to gaming, which covers PDFs, which is why there are only paper versions of the books. And since star wars is a huge cash source, they're very protective of their rights
so we're scr*wed
The thing is, that's Lucasfilm's decision, not EA's.
28 minutes ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:Is this the same picture as the one in SaS?
Yeah, it is, I didn’t realize that it was published before.
Oh, I guess it must be at Kenner scale.
Edited by Eoen40 minutes ago, Stan Fresh said:The thing is, that's Lucasfilm's decision, not EA's.
nope, that's not how the law & contracts work
legal terms on the license agreement are binding, lucasfilm can't force EA to allow another company digital content because this would be breach of contract subject to massive penalties, until current license term is over
1 hour ago, Stan Fresh said:The thing is, that's Lucasfilm's decision, not EA's.
But that can only happen during contract renewals and Lucas has to find it worth while to engage a lawyer to make those changes. It didnt under WotC and hasnt under FFG.. i find it unlikely to change. I suppose if we wrote the licensing dept maybe it might convince them...
Edited by Daeglan7 hours ago, MB -Fr- said:nope, that's not how the law & contracts work
legal terms on the license agreement are binding, lucasfilm can't force EA to allow another company digital content because this would be breach of contract subject to massive penalties, until current license term is over
Who decided on licensing video games out to EA?
5 minutes ago, Stan Fresh said:Who decided on licensing video games out to EA?
Probably the same people who shut down lucas arts...
3 hours ago, Daeglan said:Probably the same people who shut down lucas arts...
My point is, the license was ultimately Lucasfilm's decision, not EA's.
7 minutes ago, Stan Fresh said:My point is, the license was ultimately Lucasfilm's decision, not EA's.
It's a negotiation, and Lucasfilm rolled a few Threat.
1 hour ago, Stan Fresh said:My point is, the license was ultimately Lucasfilm's decision, not EA's.
you don't understand: the decision has already been done years ago, the terms of the agreement are set, there's no more room for negotiation until the term of the contract, unless EA & disney decide it conjointly.
And given the huge cash cow that is the star wars license EA isn't going to risk renegotiating before end of term, with all the other game companies that would compete (especially as, since I already pointed, they haven't a stellar track record)
contract signed, ink dried, we gotta live with the consequences until end of license term. Lucasfilm & Disney have no more say into EA's decision unless they f*** up so badly it breaks the contract
1 minute ago, MB -Fr- said:you don't understand: the decision has already been done years ago, the terms of the agreement are set, there's no more room for negotiation until the term of the contract, unless EA & disney decide it conjointly.
That's literally what I'm talking about.
4 minutes ago, Stan Fresh said:
That's literally what I'm talking about.
then I am afraid I misunderstood your wording, you seemed to me to suggest that Lucasfilm & Disney still had a say in what happens
7 minutes ago, MB -Fr- said:then I am afraid I misunderstood your wording, you seemed to me to suggest that Lucasfilm & Disney still had a say in what happens
I was reacting to someone (don't remember if it was you) shaking their fist in anger at EA, which seems misguided. I'm well aware of the timing here.