THE END IS NIGH! S&S is shipping (Also, gimmie da spoilers!)

By Desslok, in Star Wars: Edge of the Empire RPG

8 hours ago, Nytwyng said:

Got mine last night. When I left, there were about 5 left on the shelf. Along with a single Edge CRB and one Age sourcebook (didn't see which one). Across the board, their FFG RPG stock was either completely gone (Genesys) or really low (L5R).

My flgs doesn’t sell Star Wars rpgs. Curious though what state is this place in?

51 minutes ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

The guns are quad laser cannons, not unlike those on the Falcon, so that doesn't really make sense. Probably just something they forgot to change.

On this version, they are actually twin heavy laser cannons in both the dorsal and ventral turrets. Note that this differs from what Rebels show us (twin medium laser cannons dorsal and single heavy laser cannon ventral).

4 minutes ago, HappyDaze said:

On this version, they are actually twin heavy laser cannons in both the dorsal and ventral turrets. Note that this differs from what Rebels show us (twin medium laser cannons dorsal and single heavy laser cannon ventral).

Oh, my bad. I wonder where I saw those stats? I'd swear I saw them somewhere.

It's also been a while since I watched Rebels, but what makes you say that the lower ones were Mediums?

On 2/26/2020 at 10:20 PM, Rimsen said:

So some people DID play the rebels. Though I can't understand what's wrong with the Majestic Pizza Slices... :D

In Empire at War the Rebels are by far the faction I play as the most followed by the Zahn Consortium and in distant third the Empire. I never play ground battles except when forced too in story campagins.

In the Rebellion PC game I almost always play as rebels

In the X-Wing mini game I have an array of rebel ships, and several Scum ships but no Imperials.

And for the Armada I only play Rebels though I might get soume Republic or Separatist ships.

In games the Rebels almost always get more ships I like.

2 hours ago, Zuldan said:

My flgs doesn’t sell Star Wars rpgs. Curious though what state is this place in?

Plano, TX. They’ve got pretty much the largest selection of games of all types. Their FFG RPG selection was already pretty bare because of their annual “buy 2/get 1 free” sale in the whole store from Thanksgiving to New Year’s. They’d started getting restocked a couple of weeks ago, but the latest RPG line news seems to have created a run on the books.

5 hours ago, Nytwyng said:

Plano, TX. They’ve got pretty much the largest selection of games of all types. Their FFG RPG selection was already pretty bare because of their annual “buy 2/get 1 free” sale in the whole store from Thanksgiving to New Year’s. They’d started getting restocked a couple of weeks ago, but the latest RPG line news seems to have created a run on the books.

What news? I know the inhouse RPG team was let go but is the run an overreaction to the fact future RPG books will be written by external writers or has some other bad news come?

54 minutes ago, RogueCorona said:

What news? I know the inhouse RPG team was let go but is the run an overreaction to the fact future RPG books will be written by external writers or has some other bad news come?

We don't know if future books will happen at all.

There's no reason to believe they won't though.

1 hour ago, RogueCorona said:

There's no reason to believe they won't though.

I see you have hope.....

1 hour ago, RogueCorona said:

There's no reason to believe they won't though.

On the one hand, Kat Ostrander (currently FFG's Director of Story and Setting) saying that RPG development is not in FFG's long-term plans a couple weeks ago.

On the other hand, we've got the anonymous person manning the live chat during this week's FFG Live stream saying that RPGs aren't going away, and an announcement is coming "soonish."

While everyone wants to believe the latter is the case, in practice it looks like most are working under the assumption that, since she was willing to say so publicly, Kat's statement is factual.

11 hours ago, Nytwyng said:

Plano, TX. They’ve got pretty much the largest selection of games of all types. Their FFG RPG selection was already pretty bare because of their annual “buy 2/get 1 free” sale in the whole store from Thanksgiving to New Year’s. They’d started getting restocked a couple of weeks ago, but the latest RPG line news seems to have created a run on the books.

Sounds like a great place! And unfortunately too far for me. Flgs here stick mostly to dnd and even then the selection is usually lacking. Other rpgs are a novelty, core books only. And never sales. I’ve become very familiar with online buying lol.

42 minutes ago, Nytwyng said:

On the one hand, Kat Ostrander (currently FFG's Director of Story and Setting) saying that RPG development is not in FFG's long-term plans a couple weeks ago.

On the other hand, we've got the anonymous person manning the live chat during this week's FFG Live stream saying that RPGs aren't going away, and an announcement is coming "soonish."

While everyone wants to believe the latter is the case, in practice it looks like most are working under the assumption that, since she was willing to say so publicly, Kat's statement is factual.

Right because I'm sure FFG really wants to not get the money they would make from more RPG material...

The ST is complete so there's plenty of room for RPG material focused on that Era. Project Luminous will open up a whole new era. And of course there's no reason they can't do more OT or PT era material. As much as they sell the books for they have to make an incredible profit to cost ratio even splitting the profit with Disney.

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12 minutes ago, RogueCorona said:

Right because I'm sure FFG really wants to not get the money they would make from more RPG material...

The ST is complete so there's plenty of room for RPG material focused on that Era. Project Luminous will open up a whole new era. And of course there's no reason they can't do more OT or PT era material. As much as they sell the books for they have to make an incredible profit to cost ratio even splitting the profit with Disney.

I don't disagree with your logic. And, I'd love to see not just Star Wars, but Genesys and L5R see new material beyond what's already in the pipeline, which has been said will still be released.

But, I'd be a liar if I said that, in the current state of uncertainty, I'm not picking up the L5R material while I can, even though I've not had opportunity to actually play and see if I like this version. Better safe than sorry. It appears that I'm not the only one taking such an approach.

2 hours ago, RogueCorona said:

Right because I'm sure FFG really wants to not get the money they would make from more RPG material...

Who says they would be making money? Profit margins in the RPG industry are notoriously slim.

27 minutes ago, Stan Fresh said:

Who says they would be making money? Profit margins in the RPG industry are notoriously slim.

Everything i have seen indicates they were making money. I just suspect the equity compaany wanted a higher prfit margin than RPGs make.

3 hours ago, Nytwyng said:

On the one hand, Kat Ostrander (currently FFG's Director of Story and Setting) saying that RPG development is not in FFG's long-term plans a couple weeks ago.

On the other hand, we've got the anonymous person manning the live chat during this week's FFG Live stream saying that RPGs aren't going away, and an announcement is coming "soonish."

While everyone wants to believe the latter is the case, in practice it looks like most are working under the assumption that, since she was willing to say so publicly, Kat's statement is factual.

There is a way for the 2 to be somewhat true

If FFG decides to drop some of the lines to focus solely upon their games lines that have been profitable

OFC we still need to have an offcial statement to confirm (am I the only one that finds the fact they didn't issue one despite all the wild speculation infuriating btw?)

Also, asking for spoilers from those who already got the book: what are the Kom'rk gauntlet fighter capabilities like? Live up to its role as a fighter/transport?

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1 hour ago, MB -Fr- said:

what are the Kom'rk gauntlet fighter capabilities like? Live up to its role as a fighter/transport?

Sil 4, speed 4, handling +2, Armor 4, defense 2/-/-/1, crew 4, 24 passengers (and it has 2 months of consumables for everyone!), Short sensors, twin medium lasers front and another set rear, class 1 hyperdrive. It's basically a way better U-wing.

2 hours ago, Daeglan said:

Everything i have seen indicates they were making money. I just suspect the equity compaany wanted a higher prfit margin than RPGs make.

Star Wars RPG is still no. 3 in the market. If they want better margins maybe they should think about selling PDFs as well to smooth out cash flow and supply side issues and a online character builder like hero-lab.

Also organized play would drive sales and build the community.

Basically just mimic Paizo’s sales strategy.

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16 minutes ago, Eoen said:

Star Wars RPG is still no. 3 in the market. If they want better margins maybe they should think about selling PDFs as well to smooth out cash flow and supply side issues and a online character builder like hero-lab.

Also organized play would drive sales and build the community.

Basically just mimic Paizo’s sales strategy.

thanks to EA we cant have PDFs I am shocked they let the dice app be a thing

7 minutes ago, Oldmike1 said:

thanks to EA we cant have PDFs I am shocked they let the dice app be a thing

Why would EA dictate the terms of FFG's license with Lucasfilm?

1 minute ago, Stan Fresh said:

Why would EA dictate the terms of FFG's license with Lucasfilm?

they don't. PDFs are on that side of the license and for some reason no one at lucas has adjusted it...

23 minutes ago, Stan Fresh said:

Why would EA dictate the terms of FFG's license with Lucasfilm?

Why would they even care the entire RPG market makes less in a year than it EA’s budget for development of one video game. They’re never going to make RPG game PDFs.

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16 minutes ago, Stan Fresh said:

Why would EA dictate the terms of FFG's license with Lucasfilm?

although I not seen how it was worded my guess is that as EA has the wording of something like "any game on an electronic device" that maybe why the adventure PDFs are ok

33 minutes ago, Eoen said:

Why would they even care the entire RPG market makes less in a year than it EA’s budget for development of one video game. They’re never going to make RPG game PDFs.

you expect EA, voted several times worst business in the world, and notoriously "these are not loot boxes but surprise mechanics" greedy to make intelligent decisions where money is concerned?

regardless of logic, legalese wording on the license with disney apparently involves all digital and electronic content related to gaming, which covers PDFs, which is why there are only paper versions of the books. And since star wars is a huge cash source, they're very protective of their rights

so we're scr*wed

EA is just across the lake from me, I used to work for one of their ex-VPs of marketing. You are right they are corporate ****.

Still it would never effect their bottom line, they might even get a kickback if FFG had any balls to push the issue.