this is going to sound crazy but bear with me: buy an extra KiY expansion, take the 6 next act cards from there and add it to your mythos deck. this will double the chances of drawing an act card. if it's still not enough, you can buy an extra KiY...

Not crazy but not cheap

I thought about it twice before not doing it some months ago

Or you could just draw off the top 40 or so cards from your mythos deck and mix the Next Act cards into that stack.

Veet said:

and what if my second mythos is the story continues.

Veet said:

Stop being so practical and spend your $40.

Avi_dreader said:

Pffft. If that would actually work, Dam would have had Kingsport by now.

I'd go with a deck of 93 (that's the size of a KiY-only mythos).

If you draw The Story Continues, you should shuffle it all again, selecting a new set of 93 cards that include Story Continues and the six Next Acts.

An argument could be made for reshuffling and reusing the same deck of 93 cards. That way, you're not altering the probability of re-drawing a mythos card that you had drawn earlier.

Yeah but I would prefer maximum variability. In a game with 200+ mythos cards, who really wants to see the same ones twice? Also, if your deck turned out to be too Innsmouth-heavy, for example, then you have an idea how Innsmouth-heavy the deck will be after the shuffle.

On the other hand, it would save a shuffle out of the unused cards :-O

Um, okay, though it kind of defeats the point of having a "story continues" card (except for Bast, I suppose). Also, there's ways of keeping your deck from being too Innsmouth heavy. I should come clean and say that I have an anti-dilution mechanic that makes use of these ideas. I'll post about it if I ever find the time.

Yes 93 cards. 40 was just a number I pulled out of the air because I didn't want to look it up.

Tibs method of dealing with the Story Continues actually would give you the same probabilities of running into duplicates as you would get just using an undiluted deck. Of course it has the drawback of being the most work of any method of dealing with it having to sort all the Next Act cards out before shuffling (unless you are using some odd variant in which you are sorting all the expansions and divying them up by ratio).

Veet said:

How do you figure? Let's say you use 93 mythos cards, returning the rest of the cards to the box. Call this the undiluted deck variant. You turn over the first card, which we'll call Card X. On the next turn, you turn over the second card, which is "the story continues." You reshuffle and redraw. At this point, your chances of drawing Card X are 1/93.

Now imagine a second hypothetical situation. Call it Tibs' varient (for lack of a better term). You have (let's say) 150 mythos cards. You use 93 cards for your deck, but do not return the other mythos cards to the box. On the first turn you draw Card X (and let's assume it's not a Next Act Begins card). On the second turn you draw "the story continues." You create a new deck of 93 cards and redraw. At this point, your chances of drawing Card X are 1/150. Therefore, unless I'm missing something, Tibs' method produces different probabilities of redrawing cards than if you used an undiluted deck.

I have an interesting idea regarding The Story Continues and bast to prevent dilution of The Story Continues. I don't know the numbers, so if anyone does please do the following math:

Base mythos deck+Kingsport mythos deck=(?)
The probability of drawing The Story Continues from that=(?)
Take that probability and convert it do dice rolls (for example, rolling 2 dice and getting double 1's. the probability is probably lower though)
With that in mind, and when playing with Bast, roll the amount of dice needed before each Mythos starts, and if it's the desired result, treat the current Mythos as The Story Continues.

Anyone?

No Veet, avec is saying that if you stick to the same 93, you might see any of those 93 again, which would be reminiscent of the older games *sigh*

But avec, even if you were to make a new random 93 each time you got Story Continues, the point is that the six Act cards would still be strewn throughout that set of 93. You may not see any of the other cards again, but... the Next Acts are the ones that really matter!

Tibs said:

Yeah, that's fair enough. I wasn't trying to suggest otherwise.

avec said:

What is the point of having a "story continues" card, anyways? I mean I guess it's to prevent events from only ever happening once, but that seems like the opposite of the story continuing...they should call it "Parts of the story repeat themselves, maybe"

i think it's because the base game has a small mythos deck so it's to prevent the mythos deck from running out?

kroen said:

Maybe. Though with most other games, if you run out of cards you just reshuffle the discard pile and keep going.

avec said:

Touche, my good sir.

Although repeating mythos card is not a problem with all expaniosn. I haven't had the story continues drawn in like... well, ever, not since I had more than 2 expansions...

jgt7771 said:

::Laughter:: didn't you offer to buy it for him? Did he turn it down? ;'D

subochre said:

::Laughter:: nice...

Tibs said:

My apologies I used the incorrect word in my original statement what I MEANT to say was that his method gives you the same chance of repeats as using an unDIVIDED deck with all the expansions.

Avi_dreader said:

He never acknowledged that he even saw the offer. So either he missed it, he REALLY doesn't want Kingsport, or I'm too creepy to disclose a mailing address to. Perhaps all three. >zombie gurgle<

Offer remains on the table, though.

jgt7771 said:

Did you private message him?

Avi_dreader said:

What fun would that be?

Dam's been pretty quiet lately, certainly about Kingsport. In fact, more of us have been cheerleading that he dislikes KH even more than he himself has lately. To be honest, I was just tired of him using the price tag as an excuse: after all this time, even a hobo could have saved fifty extra bucks. So I've removed that excuse, if he chooses to accept the offer.

Personally, I think he's unnerved a bit. It would be hard to maintain his rep as a Kingsport hardass if he were >GASP< wrong.