15 minutes ago, buckero0 said:

Carl Weathers. He's in the Mandalorian as the bounty hunter handler

Donny, you're out of your element...

GOT LCG is over after worlds and many people i know are running around like the sky is falling. I hear People saying FFG is junking all their competitive games, but I have not seen anyone in the industry say such a thing.

39 minutes ago, Mokoshkana said:

Are you saying you dislike the aesthetic of the troop choices being authentic to the environments in which they operated in the movies?

Yes, because in the table they AREN'T in the proper environments, and, as I said before, to mix snowtroopers with a dewback is completely ridiculous and is only possible when the game you have designed doesn't take into consideration the aesthetics, so, it is a card game (or board game) disguised as a wargame so that you got very expensive tokens. The whole result takes out suspension of disbelief. In star wars, normal soldiers DO wear snowtrooper vests when operating in harsh climate, they are NOT a different unit just because they wear a skirt. These kind of design decisions are only taken by persons that don't care about the lore and pretend they are playing a star wars game that could perfectly be a star wars chess. They don't care about the proper representation of a distinctive planet or the proper details of the units... they only care about stats. And of course it is completely abstract to pretend that a person that wears snowtrooper armour do jump better through obstacles. makes NO sense. If you only consider the card and not what it means... then you are playing a card game. It is again a combo abstract decision that doesn't have NOTHING to do with stormtroopers fighting in winter environment. And... why can't I have a thematic army where snowtroopers ride speederbikes? why can't I choose an e-web if it is not manned by a person that is in cold gear?? To pretend that a different armour is enough to provide a completely different unit with different stats - and even special weapons!- is absurd and inconsistent with what we have seen in star wars. These are abstract rules that don't allow thematic armies.

40 minutes ago, TauntaunScout said:

Fine. I want it to be more immersive and *gasp* more of a simulation, yes, even though it has space wizards. People shouldn’t gain aim tokens through osmosis for example. There’s too much to keep track of in Legion and it doesn’t feel like the SW universe to me. The way say, a game of DBA feels exactly like reading first hand accounts of ancient warfare.

Individual results may vary.

I want double envelopment, interlocking fields of fire, and feigned retreats. Not abstract token-synergies.

I mean, you can get those things. Positioning from two directions makes it much more likely that the target won’t have cover from one of the two; and there’s no reason you can’t pretend to run away, it’s just unlikely that anyone is going to give chase? That does really depend on someone making a blunder.

So to summarize: this is a salt thread for people who don’t like rules and want it to die.

got it.

42 minutes ago, Tubb said:

Yes, because in the table they AREN'T in the proper environments, and, as I said before, to mix snowtroopers with a dewback is completely ridiculous and is only possible when the game you have designed doesn't take into consideration the aesthetics, so, it is a card game (or board game) disguised as a wargame so that you got very expensive tokens. The whole result takes out suspension of disbelief. In star wars, normal soldiers DO wear snowtrooper vests when operating in harsh climate, they are NOT a different unit just because they wear a skirt. These kind of design decisions are only taken by persons that don't care about the lore and pretend they are playing a star wars game that could perfectly be a star wars chess. They don't care about the proper representation of a distinctive planet or the proper details of the units... they only care about stats. And of course it is completely abstract to pretend that a person that wears snowtrooper armour do jump better through obstacles. makes NO sense. If you only consider the card and not what it means... then you are playing a card game. It is again a combo abstract decision that doesn't have NOTHING to do with stormtroopers fighting in winter environment. And... why can't I have a thematic army where snowtroopers ride speederbikes? why can't I choose an e-web if it is not manned by a person that is in cold gear?? To pretend that a different armour is enough to provide a completely different unit with different stats - and even special weapons!- is absurd and inconsistent with what we have seen in star wars. These are abstract rules that don't allow thematic armies.

Lol is this a joke? What game did you come from that has no abstraction? No war game is realistic. All of them consist of tiny plastic/metal pieces that crudely stand in for reality. If you don't enjoy it, find another game that you will. Life is too short for this kind of nonsense.

@Tubb FFG doesn't dictate how you use the models. If you ONLY want to field Hoth themed units on a board that is ice and snow, you are free to build a table that is ice themed and only use those models on that board. If you don't like the rules, then make your own to play with any like minded people in your area, using the minis you want to use (and share them so the rest of us can have more ways to use our minis too!).

So long as Legion continues, miniatures of a decent quality and price are still being produced. There is absolutely zero guarantee that should Legion end another company will scoop up the license and continue to produce this style of miniature game. The next company could be more interested in *shudder* cheap, bendy, badly painted, plastic blind boxes , and less inclined to enforce your idea of aesthetics, allowing for "armies" consisting of a mixture of factions.

If I were to dislike Legion, you wouldn’t see me spend some time on the Legion boards... just saying 🤷🏼‍♂️ .

On 2/9/2020 at 1:49 AM, Bobmc said:

Who's butt is saying these things

The neurotic doomsayer that posted this thread.

3 hours ago, Katsutoshi said:

If I were to dislike Legion, you wouldn’t see me spend some time on the Legion boards... just saying 🤷🏼‍♂️ .

1000% this ^

Sounds like this game isn't for you, and it's never going to be. Time to move on.

And if Legion were to end, there is a very active homebrew community ( Check out the Homebrewed First Order ) and 3D artists that could potentially keep it going.

11 hours ago, Mokoshkana said:

Are you saying you dislike the aesthetic of the troop choices being authentic to the environments in which they operated in the movies?

I think he wants more corps troops from the “temperate zone”. Such as Imperial Navy Troops. I believe English is a 2nd language for Tubb so I could be wrong.

11 hours ago, Derrault said:

I mean, you can get those things. Positioning from two directions makes it much more likely that the target won’t have cover from one of the two; and there’s no reason you can’t pretend to run away, it’s just unlikely that anyone is going to give chase? That does really depend on someone making a blunder.

Yeah but the rules don’t support them. And those things can’t overcome chain reactions of token synergies. I don’t think it should be even theoretically possible to destroy big vehicles with small arms fire, and I do think big heroes should be afraid of 6 stormtroopers like they are in the movies.

More than realism I want the games to be immersive. Legion’s the least immersive SW rules I’ve ever played. Maybe tied with D20 SW Miniatures.

18 minutes ago, TauntaunScout said:

Yeah but the rules don’t support them. And those things can’t overcome chain reactions of token synergies. I don’t think it should be even theoretically possible to destroy big vehicles with small arms fire, and I do think big heroes should be afraid of 6 stormtroopers like they are in the movies.

More than realism I want the games to be immersive. Legion’s the least immersive SW rules I’ve ever played. Maybe tied with D20 SW Miniatures.

Personally, I don't look for"immersion" in a miniature game for platoon level and above, I look for interesting design and tactics.

For me, immersion is more the realm of RPGs and some small campaign skirmish games (5-10 models in a side).

41 minutes ago, TauntaunScout said:

I don’t think it should be even theoretically possible to destroy big vehicles with small arms fire

Pretty much every Star Wars videogame I've played says otherwise.

Feels like some people just like to see the world burn. SWL is doing very well in my area and every event I go to I ask the local stores and they say it sells. Now this is just my small section of the world, and disney/ffg could have other issues. However, feels like some people dislike the game and wanted to feel validated by posting on this forum. You may want to look inward to why you feel trying to tear down others enjoyment is your goal. I left past games because the game community became toxic because articles like this kept popping up and now dominate the forums.

no it isn't

/thread

As for the actual idea that Legion is being cancelled:

It’s an unsubstantiated and I would say improbable rumor.

Long time Armada players when other SW TTGs start getting "is it dead" threads:

15 minutes ago, Darth Sanguis said:

Long time Armada players when other SW TTGs start getting "is it dead" threads

Us boys who have been playing Armada aren't going to drop a game just because of a couple months of delays

Double post

2 minutes ago, thepopemobile100 said:

Us boys who have been playing Armada aren't going to drop a game just because of a couple months of delays

Bah, Armada players have it easy compared to Battlefleet Gothic and Blood Bowl players.

Just now, Caimheul1313 said:

Bah, Armada players have it easy compared to Battlefleet Gothic and Blood Bowl players.

1 hour ago, Darth Sanguis said:

Long time Armada players when other SW TTGs start getting "is it dead" threads:

You don't say... I recently got yet another 'Armada isn't dead?' comment by a fellow x-wing player when I bought my Onager and Starhawk... naw man... it never died....

I still play with my (metal) Bretonnians and have (metal) Tyranid warriors. I have 2 bases of squig swarms. Cancellation or not, means little enough to me.

...I've loved ambitious women, and rode on wheeless trains...