Failing new tractors

By Bort, in X-Wing Rules Questions

A question came up last night in our game.

If I try to move you with a tractor beam, but the action fails due to another object ship being in the way. Do you then still get the option to "stress + 90 degree turn"?

We played it that you can't, because you never got moved which is the trigger for it. But clearly the intent to move the ship was there.

I.e.
I tractor a ship. Rules then gives me an choice. I can choose to do nothing OR to move the opposing ship.

If I choose the latter option and then the Rules give opponent a choice. He can choose to do nothing OR take stress and rotate.

Even as the tractor player in this scenario I felt it would be fair enough if he gets his choice. I had my choice, my bad luck that my choice failed because the ship couldn't fit in where I wanted it to.
But since it never technically moved the opponent he doesn't get his choice?

*edited object to ship. Since ships being in the way wil cause me to fail. Obstacles obviously won't.

Edited by Bort

„After a ship is moved this way, if an opponent moved it, the ship's player may choose to have the ship rotate 90˚ to the left or right. If they do, the ship gains one stress token.“

„After: The effect resolves immediately following the timing specified.“

If the barrel roll or boost failed the ship has not been moved and the effect cannot trigger.

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my interpretation is that the movement effect has to take place for the ship to get the rotate option. if the effect fails, the ship has not "moved this way".

it could be argued that failing a boost or barrel roll is also movement, though.

1 hour ago, meffo said:

it could be argued that failing a boost or barrel roll is also movement, though.

Yup, that is how I argued. So thought I'd check if there is anything obvious I'm missing to prevent that interpretation.

17 minutes ago, Bort said:

Yup, that is how I argued. So thought I'd check if there is anything obvious I'm missing to prevent that interpretation.

To move a ship means to use a template and move it physically from one location to another. If the ship stays at the same location is has not moved.

RR pg 11

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An effect that fails does not trigger any effects that would occur after a ship resolves that effect.