Confirmation that Lando and Chewbacca were the spearhead of a force of 14,000 ships at the Battle of Exegol.**

The visual dictionary puts the Sith Eternal Fleet in the “hundreds.”

I am hoping the novelization will mention of the Fleet compositions further. And if Sith Fleet were under crewed.

As it stands, with the exception of their Flagship, the First Order’s Fleet assets were spread around the Galaxy during the battle.

**The assumption here is a high percentage of those vessels were non capital class ships.

(257 ship model renders were used, including the Fireball, Jarek Yeager’s racer, and Torra Doza’s ship, and mining guild freighters from Star Wars Resistance, as well as ship renders from The Clone Wars and Star Wars Rebels.)

****. 14k. That's the largest fleet ever assembled.

44 minutes ago, KCDodger said:

****. 14k. That's the largest fleet ever assembled.

That’s just one side.

In comparison, the original Death Star had in comparison 7,200 TIEs.

In Legends, the Battle for Coruscant against the Yuuzhan Vong had more ships, 11K starfighers reported lost.

6 hours ago, Imperial Advisor Arem Heshvaun said:

(257 ship model renders were used, including the Fireball, Jarek Yeager’s racer, and Torra Doza’s ship, and mining guild freighters from Star Wars Resistance, as well as ship renders from The Clone Wars and Star Wars Rebels.)

Yet, we can barely see anything.

All I see is 257 missing opportunities to put in a movie some Legends (or nearly-Legends*) designs, like E-Wing*, K-Wing, T-Wing, HWK-290*, Z-95*, Assault Gunboat*, TIE Punisher, TIE Avenger, TIE Hunter, TIE Phantom... Even the T-85 could be there.

Just now, Odanan said:

Yet, we can barely see anything.

All I see is 257 missing opportunities to put in a movie some Legends (or nearly-Legends*) designs, like the E-Wing*, K-Wing, T-Wing, HWK-290*, Z-95*, Assault Gunboat*, TIE Punisher, TIE Avenger, TIE Hunter... Even the T-85 could be there.

Lindo

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1 minute ago, Imperial Advisor Arem Heshvaun said:

Lindo

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So says my mother...

Oh, I forgot the YT-2000!

9 minutes ago, Odanan said:

So says my mother...

Obviously a woman of intellect and taste.

9 minutes ago, Odanan said:

Oh, I forgot the YT-2000!

To be fair, so did they.

But in that one case it could be argued, filmmakers may not want to confuse the general audience by adding it but all the rest was a missed opportunity or two or thirty.

I would have put every Legends pilot I could squeeze in there.

44 minutes ago, Odanan said:

Yet, we can barely see anything.

All I see is 257 missing opportunities to put in a movie some Legends (or nearly-Legends*) designs, like E-Wing*, K-Wing, T-Wing, HWK-290*, Z-95*, Assault Gunboat*, TIE Punisher, TIE Avenger, TIE Hunter, TIE Phantom... Even the T-85 could be there.

I'm curious because as far as I'm aware there still is one T-85 that the resistance has and that Kaz's. In the first episode they rescue him in his damaged T-85 and it never explained what happened to it. I can only imagine the Resistance repair and retained it?

10 minutes ago, Tyhar7 said:

I'm curious because as far as I'm aware there still is one T-85 that the resistance has and that Kaz's. In the first episode they rescue him in his damaged T-85 and it never explained what happened to it. I can only imagine the Resistance repair and retained it?

And I can't believe all other T-85s in the galaxy were in a single system.

1 hour ago, Odanan said:

Yet, we can barely see anything.

All I see is 257 missing opportunities to put in a movie some Legends (or nearly-Legends*) designs, like E-Wing*, K-Wing, T-Wing, HWK-290*, Z-95*, Assault Gunboat*, TIE Punisher, TIE Avenger, TIE Hunter, TIE Phantom... Even the T-85 could be there.

I think it’s just because they took CG renders they already had from somewhere and did copy/paste. Which is why clone wars era stuff turns up but nothing we’ve only seen in the old EU or in print form.

50 minutes ago, Odanan said:

And I can't believe all other T-85s in the galaxy were in a single system.

I agree, you'd have to imagine that other republic forces were doing many many missions out of core system, escorting VIP's, cargo, protecting other military bases. Plus the ship yards building these things weren't all in the same system either. They could of made more.

2 minutes ago, ScummyRebel said:

I think it’s just because they took CG renders they already had from somewhere and did copy/paste. Which is why clone wars era stuff turns up but nothing we’ve only seen in the old EU or in print form.

But they did add a lot of completely new designs among the fleet. Instead of inventing them, they could make some (good) fan service for us, grognards.

56 minutes ago, Odanan said:

And I can't believe all other T-85s in the galaxy were in a single system.

The books show the acquisition of another also by the resistance fleet. So they aren’t all destroyed.

9 minutes ago, Odanan said:

But they did add a lot of completely new designs among the fleet. Instead of inventing them, they could make some (good) fan service for us, grognards.

I agree there should have/could have been good fan service.

Were there new designs as well? I missed that. I noticed a lot of old designs, mainly rebel fighters. The capital ships looked like they started with CG renders of old things and occasionally messed with proportions but basically it was transport this, cr90 that, and here’s a nebulon that we fed too many cheeseburgers.

I like the fan theory that most of the Last Order (or whatever the dumb name was) fleet was a force projection. It explains the fact that they really don't do a whole lot in the battle and that the Emperor has to intervene. However, it kind of falls apart when the Emperor dies and they don't just disappear right away. At least it makes more sense then building hundreds of SDs with superlasers and then having the man them.

13 minutes ago, Jo Jo said:

At least it makes more sense then building hundreds of SDs with superlasers and then having the man them.

In my own head Canon, the Sith Eternal fleet was under manned by skeleton crews, who were more zealots and fanatics rather than battle tested and hardened veterans who were expecting the Galaxy at large to fold upon seeing the magnitude of firepower the Sith fleet could bring to bear.

There is a comment in the conference room that lends some support to this as well.

Also, they all appear to be built into Imperial I class star destroyers. So likely whoever was on Exegol didn't build the ships, just retrofitted the retired empire ships with the emperor's favorite weapons.

6 minutes ago, Whalers on the moon said:

Also, they all appear to be built into Imperial I class star destroyers. So likely whoever was on Exegol didn't build the ships, just retrofitted the retired empire ships with the emperor's favorite weapons.

I would very much more preferred that narrative over the one we were given, that would help explain there antiquated shortcomings in the battle as well as where all those mothballed ships came from, AND why they were not available to The Empire in the last war. There are even several Canon references seeded just for this purpose!!!

But no, we got an entirely new class of ship. Poorly engineered as well. They just made everything bigger.

40 minutes ago, Imperial Advisor Arem Heshvaun said:

In my own head Canon, the Sith Eternal fleet was under manned by skeleton crews, who were more zealots and fanatics rather than battle tested and hardened veterans who were expecting the Galaxy at large to fold upon seeing the magnitude of firepower the Sith fleet could bring to bear.

There is a comment in the conference room that lends some support to this as well.

Good theory, but I prefer my head canon:

there is no Sequel Trilogy.

3 minutes ago, Odanan said:

Good theory, but I prefer my head canon:

there is no Sequel Trilogy.

@Odanan is as Wise as he is pretty.

2 minutes ago, Imperial Advisor Arem Heshvaun said:

@Odanan is as Wise as he is pretty.

I'm not sure that was a compliment.

Just now, Odanan said:

I'm not sure that was a compliment.

I’m going by the wisdom of you Mãe.

12 hours ago, Imperial Advisor Arem Heshvaun said:

That’s just one side.

In comparison, the original Death Star had in comparison 7,200 TIEs.

In Legends, the Battle for Coruscant against the Yuuzhan Vong had more ships, 11K starfighers reported lost.

Yeah, but that never happened.

10 minutes ago, KCDodger said:

Yeah, but that never happened.

Well, the rest of Star Wars, canon or not, didn't either.

Now seriously. The Vong and the Sun Crusher really needed the Obliviate spell.

3 hours ago, Odanan said:

Well, the rest of Star Wars, canon or not, didn't either.

Now seriously. The Vong and the Sun Crusher really needed the Obliviate spell.

Both parts of the EU that I'm STILL glad we don't have.