A question about this two cards.

Dragon Skull :" Attached character gets -2 STR and is killed if its STR is 0.Response: After Dragon Skull comes out of Shadows, attach it to an opponent's character or discard it from play."

Maester Vyman :"Response: If it is not Summer, kneel Maester Vyman to cancel a triggered effect that chooses a HS character as the only target."

If i try to attach the dragon skull to Maester Vyman (or another stark character), can Maester Vyman cancel that response, because that character is "target" of the attachment? I suppose that the question is if attach an attachment make a character to be a target, so it can be cancelled by other responses or effects as the one in maester Vyman. In think that anyway he can't cancel it because the target of the response in dragon skull is the dragon skull itself and not the maester, but i need to confirm it.

Thanks for the answers

KyK said:

Even if your interpretation of the situation is not correct you are right that you CANNOT cancel it.

The aswers to this is pretty easy. Maester Vyman say cancel an effect that CHOOSES... and since Dragon Skull does not say anywhere CHOOSE you cannot cancel it. (it would have to say something like this "After Dragon Skull comes out of Shadows, choose one opponent's character, then attach Dragon Skull to him or discard it from play.")

Yes. I understand it, but someone can understand a "choose" in "attach it to an opponent's character", so that is the reason of my last question.

KyK said:

I totally get your point but in the game terms what is now written is not happening.

This question was asked a couple weeks ago:

www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_foros_discusion.asp

The link that Schrecklich provided offers some context and explanations of related questions that might be useful. In short, you (a) CAN cancel Dragon Skull's response with a cancel effect (like He Calls It Thinking) but you (b) CANNOT cancel the response with Vyman, since the attachment technically does not "choose" a character.

The fact that "choose" is not explicitly written in the text may seem minor, since you are still choosing a character that gets the attachment, but this is the language that FFG/rules developers use to make cards like Dragon Skull a bit better. In normal English, the "choice" is implied; in FFG English, if it doesn't say "choose," then there's been no "choosing." (Otherwise, Dragon Skull would also be easily cancelled by Eddard and a bunch of other responses.)

At least, this is my understanding of the card.

Twn2dn said:

Oops, you are correct. I was thinking this was a more general "can an attachment coming out of shadows be canceled?" question when really in this case it is the simpler "does an attachment choose the thing it is being attached to?" question.