On my word, what follows I know not to be false, but as in all things, may not prove to be true ...
20 Concept Art from Star Wars: Duel of the Fates
“You lost, Ben.”
by cvialet_art
Possible ending to Episode IX, from Colin Trevorrow’s leaked script.
Duel of the Fates first draft with script-annotated gallery of all the Concept Art.
thanks to ledzepfilm
Edited by Imperial Advisor Arem Heshvaun
Cool stuff. Thanks for sharing!
Say what you will about TROS, this would have been cool to see too.
I see your Executioner Trooper and I raise you a Light Guillotine!
Poe and Rey pilot a Razer Sail through Bonadan waters, chased by the Knights of Ren in the Knife-9.
First Order Occupied Coruscant
3 hours ago, Imperial Advisor Arem Heshvaun said:I see your Executioner Trooper and I raise you a Light Guillotine!
Really makes you question how cheap technology must be in this galaxy.
23 hours ago, Darth Sanguis said:Really makes you question how cheap technology must be in this galaxy.
I’m sure the cost of single light speed jump by an Imperial Class would bankrupt some nations on this planet.
But hey, Space Magic.
Edited by Imperial Advisor Arem Heshvaun
1 hour ago, Darth Sanguis said:Really makes you question how cheap technology must be in this galaxy.
Wasn't one of the original conceits that paper didn't exist? Everything was supposed to be on datapads. Vibro-guillotine would also have been "valid."
I would have liked to see a sequel to The Last Jedi.
3 minutes ago, LunarSol said:I would have liked to see a sequel to The Last Jedi.
+1
Cool, to bad we got some rushed trying to please all people instead.
Some of this could form the basis of a new story, in a comic or game or whatever. Mass uprising on Coruscant sounds cool.
On 1/23/2020 at 4:20 AM, Imperial Advisor Arem Heshvaun said:On my word, what follows I know not to be false, but as in all things, may not prove to be true ...
20 Concept Art from Star Wars: Duel of the Fates
Colin Trevorrow confirms that the art pieces from Duel of the Fates that were leaked are real.
14 hours ago, LunarSol said:I would have liked to see a sequel to The Last Jedi.
And I'd have liked The Last Jedi to have been the middle film of a trilogy rather than closing down pretty much every plot thread and question done in the first movie, but hey ho we don't always get what we want.
On 1/24/2020 at 4:12 PM, Yodhrin said:And I'd have liked The Last Jedi to have been the middle film of a trilogy rather than closing down pretty much every plot thread and question done in the first movie, but hey ho we don't always get what we want.
There's tons of plot threads at the end of TLJ. The leaked script wouldn't have been able to follow them if they hadn't. There just weren't many empty boxes with a big question mark drawn on the side to open, which.... good? It's not like people went into Jedi furious that they were no longer wondering why Vader killed Luke's father. Pretty much every plot thread for Jedi is created in Empire, including its one big mystery box, whose answer was about as dumb as the ones we got in RoS.
Both Empire and TLJ set up a conflict; not a mystery. Vader wasn't even a mystery. We knew who he was and we knew what happened to Anakin and we knew that he was a villain the hero had to beat. What makes the reveal so great isn't that it was a mystery before; its that it takes the straightforward conflict we had established to that point and changes the dynamic in such a way that Luke can't simply win by getting powerful and winning a sword fight. Empire connects the hero and villain and establishes the stakes of their conflict; that's what makes it satisfying; not being the answer to a question.
8 hours ago, LunarSol said:There's tons of plot threads at the end of TLJ. The leaked script wouldn't have been able to follow them if they hadn't. There just weren't many empty boxes with a big question mark drawn on the side to open, which.... good? It's not like people went into Jedi furious that they were no longer wondering why Vader killed Luke's father. Pretty much every plot thread for Jedi is created in Empire, including its one big mystery box, whose answer was about as dumb as the ones we got in RoS.
Both Empire and TLJ set up a conflict; not a mystery. Vader wasn't even a mystery. We knew who he was and we knew what happened to Anakin and we knew that he was a villain the hero had to beat. What makes the reveal so great isn't that it was a mystery before; its that it takes the straightforward conflict we had established to that point and changes the dynamic in such a way that Luke can't simply win by getting powerful and winning a sword fight. Empire connects the hero and villain and establishes the stakes of their conflict; that's what makes it satisfying; not being the answer to a question.
You've misunderstood. My objection to TLJ is exactly that it does answer a question. All of them, in fact. At the end of Empire, Our Heroes are down but not out, regrouping with the wider Rebel fleet, with a revelation to come to terms with and a new immediate objective(rescue Han). At the end of TLJ, the Resistance is dead. Luke is dead. Snoke is dead. Rey's parentage(and thus her only actual character trait) is dismissed out of hand. The only question it leaves unanswered is "why did nobody come when Leia called", and nothing about the film itself suggests the answer is any different to the one it gave to all the others; meh, doesn't matter anyway. And the leaked material doesn't follow TLJ, not as it appeared on our screens anyway, given Luke is in it and not as a ghost.
All of that is compounded by the fact that Rian & Kennedy stuck firmly with the changes that evidently led to Trevorrow deciding to walk away from the project, despite the fact that their obvious intention to make Leia the Big Deal of EP9 instead of Luke was no longer possible because Carrie sodding died. They could have elevated TLJ from utter shlock to the same kind of forgettably passable as TFA with just a few reshoots to allow Leia to die in the space battle and revert Luke from Grumpy Boomer Stereotype to something approaching a decent mentor figure, maybe make it clear there was a wider Resistance and there's probably a reason why they didn't show to be explored late(excising any part of the utterly pointless casino space-horsey nonsense would have left them plenty of time), and had a decent foundation for 9, but whether out of sheer ego or base incompetence they wouldn't and so we ended up with TRoS instead. It still wouldn't have been Empire-level good, but it wouldn't have had a non-trivial number of lifelong Star Wars fans walking out in disgust or slaughtered the franchise's merchandising potential.
9 hours ago, Yodhrin said:And the leaked material doesn't follow TLJ, not as it appeared on our screens anyway, given Luke is in it and not as a ghost.
What I've seen largely has Luke as a ghost both training Rey and haunting Kylo. I never got the impression he was alive in any version of the story I've seen. The beacon mcguffin also turns the call for help to the aloof leaders of the resistance that failed to respond into a direct plea to the people to rise up against the FO as Luke did. There are other threads at play, but those are definitely the big two that take the strongest bits of TLJ's ending to tie the trilogy together.
Colin Trevorrow confirms that his version of Episode IX - "Duel of the Fates" - would have had "Kylo Ren redeemed at the very end by Rey. He dies with the light in his eyes."
“You lost, Ben.”
by cvialet_art
On 1/23/2020 at 2:29 PM, Imperial Advisor Arem Heshvaun said:
I’m sure the cost of single light speed jump by an Imperial Class would bankrupt some nations on this planet.
But hey, Space Magic.
I suspect it takes more than all the manmade energy in the history of earth, personally.
On 1/28/2020 at 2:12 AM, Yodhrin said:At the end of TLJ, the Resistance is dead. Luke is dead. Snoke is dead. Rey's parentage(and thus her only actual character trait) is dismissed out of hand. The only question it leaves unanswered is "why did nobody come when Leia called", and nothing about the film itself suggests the answer is any different to the one it gave to all the others; meh, doesn't matter anyway. And the leaked material doesn't follow TLJ, not as it appeared on our screens anyway, given Luke is in it and not as a ghost.
The Resistance being mostly dead (there's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead) leaves a plot thread for how they will rebuild. Luke's death doesn't take him out of the story because we know he can return as a Force ghost. Snoke being dead paves the way for Kylo to advance as the major villain, with him having accomplished what his grandfather could not. Rey's parentage leaves a plot thread because she still needs to deal with accepting that fact, much like Luke needed to deal with accepting that Vader was his father.
I agree that the leaked material doesn't really follow TLJ; I disagree with the notion that TLJ didn't leave any plot threads. I think Luke summed up the big ones with these two lines:
"The Rebellion is reborn today. The war is just beginning. And I will not be the last Jedi."
"Strike me down in anger and I'll always be with you. Just like your father. ... See you around, kid."
Possible ending to Episode IX, from Colin Trevorrow’s leaked script.
Duel of the Fates first draft with script-annotated gallery of all the Concept Art.
thanks to ledzepfilm