Does anyone have a link to a source that shows the events of A New Hope by hour or day?

For Example:

• Vader captures Leia
• 3 hours later 3PO and R2 captured by Jawa
• 2 days later Luke, Ben board Millennium Falcon to head to Alderan
• etc

I am planning a series of games that happen alongside the events of ANH. It would be good to see how the game can fit in to those events.

This is interesting. I've Googled and failed. But, I think the reason for such is there will be many different opinions of how much time passed between scenes. For example, there have been many debates simply on how long the Falcon trip from Tatooine to Alderaan took.

If you find something, or attempt such on your own, please be willing to share it here. I would suggest starting with Rogue One since that movie moves directly into A New Hope.

There are several SW fanatics here (obviously) so, feel free to start the debates anew!

The screen-swipes in ANH are temporally ambiguous.

The closest I have found so far, but it is still only someone's (pretty good) estimate:

https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/16131/how-long-in-universe-were-each-of-the-star-wars-movies

Ok. Here is my take on the timeline. Anything needs changing?

A long time ago...back in 1977...its period of civil war...

Day 1: Battle of Scarif - Leia takes off with the DS1 plans. Vader chases and catches his daughter Leia. R2 and 3PO take escape pod to Tatooine, only to be captured by Jawas

Day 2: Untini! Jawas sell R2 and 3PO to Owen Lars. Luke cleans them up, sees the "you're my only hope" message. Dreams about joining the Empire (?) as he looks at a couple of suns setting. Queue tune.

Day 3: Luke wakes up to discover R2 has done a runner! Typical R2! 3PO and Luke head off to see if the old hermit Ben knows where R2 is. Meets Ben, heads back home, Jawas dead, Lars are dead, goes to Mos Eisley, meets Han, takes off to Alderaan in a piece of junk whose success is measured by distance traveled on a well known route. (x=12)

Day 4: Luke trains with saber on way to Alderann...whoops. No Alderaan, but wait!...that's no moon! Captured by DS`1, explores DS1, frees Leia, sees Obi killed, escapes DS1. Heads to Yavin4...a little too easily.

Day 5: Rebels get plans for DS1, prepares to take it on...that's no moon...again! DS1 arrives, Rebels attack, "use the force Luke", one in a million shot, BOOM goes the DS1. Vader escapes.

Day 6+: Wookiee too tall to get a medal

How does that look?

1 hour ago, Andreievitch said:

Day 4: Luke trains with saber on way to Alderann...whoops. No Alderaan, but wait!...that's no moon! Captured by DS`1, explores DS1, frees Leia, sees Obi killed, escapes DS1. Heads to Yavin4...a little too easily.

Day 5: Rebels get plans for DS1, prepares to take it on...that's no moon...again! DS1 arrives, Rebels attack, "use the force Luke", one in a million shot, BOOM goes the DS1. Vader escapes.

May need to combine parts of Day 4 and 5. Vader said something like, " This day has seen the death of Kenobi, and it will see the fall of the Rebellion ". "Today will be a day long remembered, It has seen the end of Kenobi. It will soon see the end of the Rebellion".

We have no real way of knowing how long a hyperspace trip from Tattooine to Alderaan takes.

We also don't know how much time passes between the droids crashing and Owen buying them. That can easily be a week or so. It seems unlikely it's just a few hours.

It also is likely that Leia's interrogation took a couple of days at least.

There is a hazy time period between Leia offering up Dantooine, Tarkin sending people to investigate, who presumably do a thorough job of it, and word getting back.

And then there is the unknown travel time between Alderaan and Yavin. Oh, and the unknown time period between the DeathStar going boom and the medallion ceremony. I reckon they would need a day or two settting up a party that big.

You could use the charts from WEG, which used to be considered Canon back those days. Depending on the ship and the hyper drive, the journey will probably take from 2 days (for the falcon) to up to as long as 1 week (for regular transporters).

Here's the Astrogation Gazetteer from the WEG 1st ed:

So you could say Luke had an introduction time into the force of rougly 2 to 3 days by Obi Wan.

1 hour ago, DarthDude said:

You could use the charts from WEG, which used to be considered Canon back those days. Depending on the ship and the hyper drive, the journey will probably take from 2 days (for the falcon) to up to as long as 1 week (for regular transporters).

It's not canon now, and it wasn't canon ever. Almost nothing of the EU was ever real canon.

5 minutes ago, micheldebruyn said:

It's not canon now, and it wasn't canon ever. Almost nothing of the EU was ever real canon.

And still Lucasfilm sent Zahn to read the WEG stuff to prepare the Thrawn trilogy. If you have official material about the travel times in New Hope besides what was published in the EU/WEG RPG, you are free to post it in this thread. Unless, your statement that it was never canon is as insignificant as my approach to give the OP a rough guideline. 😉

10 hours ago, Andreievitch said:

Does anyone have a link to a source that shows the events of A New Hope by hour or day?

For Example:

• Vader captures Leia
• 3 hours later 3PO and R2 captured by Jawa
• 2 days later Luke, Ben board Millennium Falcon to head to Alderan
• etc

I am planning a series of games that happen alongside the events of ANH. It would be good to see how the game can fit in to those events.

There's no definitive source for that, which in turn has lead to issues with travel times in the GFFA, especially with films produced after the WEG system blew holes the size of planets in the WEG writers' assumption that hyperspace travel took days as opposed to hours.

I agree with Sturn that what you listed for Day 4 and Day 5 should be rolled together into a single day, as there really doesn't seem to be all that much time that passes during those events.

2 hours ago, DarthDude said:

Here's the Astrogation Gazetteer from the WEG 1st ed:

So you could say Luke had an introduction time into the force of rougly 2 to 3 days by Obi Wan.

I personally think the old WEG travel times were waaaaaaay too slow.

I think there's skme current guidance on rough journey times in the GM section of the core rulebook, and possibly more detail in Fly Casual.

That said, in your own games, so long as you have internal consistency, make it as fast or as slow as you like.

I personally use 1 grid square = 3.5hrs for a class 1 hyperdrive, and then multiply up for slower drives.

The best on-screen gauge of time I can think of is not New Hope, but Phantom Menace. Consider this: Kenobi, etc are on Tatooine, they call Naboo for an update and their message winds up on Sidious' desk. Palpatine gives Maul the walking papers to get the queen, we get a Tatooine night, then Anakin wins the pod race just as Maul arrives.

Now, Maul's ship will almost certainly have the fastest, highest end hyperdrive available - Palpatine's not going to send his boy out with a slower ride, right? So our best case scenario from Courscant to Tatooine is something in the neighborhood of 20-28 hours.

One other datapoint to consider? Courscant to Mustafar is, looking at the map, roughly the same distance from Courscant to Tatooine. Assuming that the Kenobi vs Vader and Yoda vs Palpatine fight were happening at more or less the same time, Palpatine hauled *** to save his dismembered apprentice. We don't have a day-to-night transition to measure time like we did in E1, but Vader wouldn't have lasted all that long after getting deep fried, so we know that Palpatine's travel time probably wasn't all that long from sensing he was in danger to arriving on scene.

Again, the King of the Universe is going to have a pimped out, high end ride, so that travel time is our best case. But it still gives us a rough idea of travel times.

3 hours ago, Stethemessiah said:

I personally think the old WEG travel times were waaaaaaay too slow.

I think if you changed the WEG travel times from days to hours, we're looking at a much more reasonable gazetteer.

Here's a chart I found in another source called "Official Star Wars Fact File".

The scimitar is listed as Class 2 on the Canon Wookieepedia page, and Class 1.5 on the Legends page. In the CRBs, the trip from Coruscant to Tatooine is a straight shot along a major hyperspace lane at 5.5 inches, so if we say 24 hours at class 1.5, that would set the time at 16 hours Class 1, or ~3 hours per inch, which makes me very happy because that's the timing I had worked out! (I took the Class 1.5 from Legends because Legends is typically a bit more precise. For ship stats, I pretty much always use Legends unless it does something absurd).

Let's start from scratch and add a modifier for it as a major hyperspace lane (*.75).

Okay. 24 hours at Class 1.5 and *.75=21.3÷5.5=3.876, which can be rounded to 4.

A base travel time of ~4 hours with a Class 1 hyperdrive and normal hyperspace conditions.

Now if it was a Class 2, that shortens the base length.

Okay. 24 hours at Class 2 and *.75=16÷5.5=2.9, which can be rounded to 3, again what I had worked out.

That was using the guesstimate of 20-28 hours hyperspace.

The Legends article on Hyperspace travel times says that Tatooine-Alderaan takes less than 16 hours, and since the distance between Tatooine-Alderaan and Tatooine-Coruscant is about the same distance, here's what I come up with for Tatooine-Alderaan:

15 hours at Class 1 and 4 inches at *.75, 2 inches at *1. Since I already came up with 3, I'll use that as a starting point for comparison: 6 hours (2*3*1)+9 hours (4*3*.75)=15 hours exactly. All wrapped up in a nice neat bow. Possibly too neat, but there's enough wiggle room between the two results and the two distances to call it even.

47 minutes ago, Desslok said:

The best on-screen gauge of time I can think of is not New Hope, but Phantom Menace. Consider this: Kenobi, etc are on Tatooine, they call Naboo for an update and their message winds up on Sidious' desk. Palpatine gives Maul the walking papers to get the queen, we get a Tatooine night, then Anakin wins the pod race just as Maul arrives.

Now, Maul's ship will almost certainly have the fastest, highest end hyperdrive available - Palpatine's not going to send his boy out with a slower ride, right? So our best case scenario from Courscant to Tatooine is something in the neighborhood of 20-28 hours.

One other datapoint to consider? Courscant to Mustafar is, looking at the map, roughly the same distance from Courscant to Tatooine. Assuming that the Kenobi vs Vader and Yoda vs Palpatine fight were happening at more or less the same time, Palpatine hauled *** to save his dismembered apprentice. We don't have a day-to-night transition to measure time like we did in E1, but Vader wouldn't have lasted all that long after getting deep fried, so we know that Palpatine's travel time probably wasn't all that long from sensing he was in danger to arriving on scene.

Again, the King of the Universe is going to have a pimped out, high end ride, so that travel time is our best case. But it still gives us a rough idea of travel times.

I think if you changed the WEG travel times from days to hours, we're looking at a much more reasonable gazetteer.

Maul arrived the night before the Race. The Probe droids go by Quigon at the end of the race.

14 minutes ago, DarthDude said:

Here's a chart I found in another source called "Official Star Wars Fact File".

Those numbers are extremely broken. Certainly not usable for general measurements. It looks like they may not have used uniform hyperdrive classes for that. It takes 7 hours to get from Tatooine to Alderaan, but takes 22 days and 14 hours to get to Coruscant? That just doesn't line up. It would only take you 23 hours to just route through Alderaan.

1 minute ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

Those numbers look extremely broken. Certainly not usable for general measurements. It looks like they may not have used uniform hyperdrive classes for that. It takes 7 hours to get from Tatooine to Alderaan, but takes 22 days and 14 hours to get to Coruscant? That just doesn't line up. It would only take you 23 hours to just route through Alderaan.

I guess the biggest challenge is if two planets are connected by hyperspace lanes or you have to go on detours. Because two planets are seperated 4 inches by a ruler doesn't mean two other planets also seperated 4 inches but without a direct space lane connection and other obstacles in between would take the same amount of travel time.

2 minutes ago, DarthDude said:

I guess the biggest challenge is if two planets are connected by hyperspace lanes or you have to go on detours. Because two planets are seperated 4 inches by a ruler doesn't mean two other planets also seperated 4 inches but without a direct space lane connection and other obstacles in between would take the same amount of travel time.

No, not broken based on my measurements, just based on that chart. No sane spacer is going to spend nearly 23 days in transit between Tatooine and Coruscant when he can route through Alderaan and make the trip in 1 day.

1 hour ago, Desslok said:

I think if you changed the WEG travel times from days to hours, we're looking at a much more reasonable gazetteer.

I can't seem to track down the source or the exact quote, but I do remember hearing that the writers of the 1e WEG corebook outright said that they'd made a mistake with the hyperspace travel times and that the chart was supposed to be hours instead of days. But with the LFL approval process being what it was at the time, they couldn't just simply change it in the next printing or even in later editions.

But I agree, just changing the travel times to hours does make hyperspace travel in the games match up far better with what we see in the films and other media, especially in the current canon.

6 hours ago, micheldebruyn said:

It's not canon now, and it wasn't canon ever. Almost nothing of the EU was ever real canon.

Sadly, that's a statement that's both true and false. Prior to Disney slamming the Big Red Canon Reset button back in April 2014, what was and wasn't canon within Star Wars was, for lack of a better term, messy , due to the then-existing tiers of canonicity.

WEG sourcebook material (unless it was specifically mentioned in a novel) was C-level canon, along with everything else from an RPG product, so long as it didn't contradict a higher tier of canon. For instance, if a WEG splat said that Palps had never been a Senator, or that he was born, raised, and lived exclusively in the Core Worlds, that would have been C-level canon prior to The Phantom Menace (G-level canon, since the film came from Uncle George himself), and after said film those elements from the WEG rulebook would be apocrypha.

Since WEG's original charts were never refenced in any films or novels, they were never more than C-level canon. And even then, that's debatable as the prequels showed that hyperspace travel was a heck of a lot faster than what said charts implied, so even back that far it could be implied that said charts were in the realm of apocrypha as they were in contradiction of a higher-ranking degree of canon.

Frankly, Disney did us all a favor by effectively punting the EU off to its own little corner and making a relatively clean start of things. That's not to say the entirety of the new canon has been all sunshine and roses, but at least there's no more "levels of canon" to contend with.

15 minutes ago, Donovan Morningfire said:

Frankly, Disney did us all a favor by effectively punting the EU off to its own little corner and making a relatively clean start of things. That's not to say the entirety of the new canon has been all sunshine and roses, but at least there's no more "levels of canon" to contend with.

I would prefer to just have studio canon (films and television shows) and apocrypha (everything else). Disney can license all manner of things as official products without slapping a big canon sticker. It keeps things clean and leaves the fans to their own devices. It only really matters if you are actually producing content for Disney. Otherwise, who cares?

1 hour ago, Daeglan said:

Maul arrived the night before the Race. The Probe droids go by Quigon at the end of the race.

Eh, I mis-remembered the sequence of events. Could have sworn he arrived at dawn. I blame the Alzhimers.

Still, it doesn't change the clock too badly. 12-18 hours instead of the 20 I guesstimated.

21 minutes ago, Desslok said:

Eh, I mis-remembered the sequence of events. Could have sworn he arrived at dawn. I blame the Alzhimers.

Still, it doesn't change the clock too badly. 12-18 hours instead of the 20 I guesstimated.

No biggie.