Well, there was the Star Destroyer that zapped Helmet Girl and Droid Mechanic's planet. It wouldn't have gone back to Palpy Planet, because it didn't have the GPS thingie and can't navigate there on it's own - so it's just hanging out somewhere, waiting to start some trouble.
The state of the galaxy after E9
5 hours ago, Desslok said:Well, there was the Star Destroyer that zapped Helmet Girl and Droid Mechanic's planet. It wouldn't have gone back to Palpy Planet, because it didn't have the GPS thingie and can't navigate there on it's own - so it's just hanging out somewhere, waiting to start some trouble.
That and there are probably other First Order ships out on patrol as well. So now you find the First Order remnants in the same state that Jedi survivors of Order 66 found themselves in. They did show several planets rising up and fighting back against the FO but I'm sure some would escape, find others, and then make a stand. More than likely destined to fail but you will have some who decide to use deceit and duplicity and try to infiltrate whatever new (new?) Republic tries to form.
9 hours ago, HappyDaze said:Or critical allies in stopping a Vong worldship.
The heretic said "vong"!!! ๐ฑ ๐ ๐
9 hours ago, Desslok said:Well, there was the Star Destroyer that zapped Helmet Girl and Droid Mechanic's planet. It wouldn't have gone back to Palpy Planet, because it didn't have the GPS thingie and can't navigate there on it's own - so it's just hanging out somewhere, waiting to start some trouble.
I like your technical naming methods...
The Planet is Kijimi
On 1/22/2020 at 4:54 AM, Varlie said:That and there are probably other First Order ships out on patrol as well. So now you find the First Order remnants in the same state that Jedi survivors of Order 66 found themselves in. They did show several planets rising up and fighting back against the FO but I'm sure some would escape, find others, and then make a stand. More than likely destined to fail but you will have some who decide to use deceit and duplicity and try to infiltrate whatever new (new?) Republic tries to form.
Exactly. They forge our own destiny now. They are as ronin โ wandering without a master.
And well, if they are unable to topple the Republic, that doesn't mean that can't go and get their revenge on the girl who killed their master.
I'm with some others on this, I think regions and sectors are going to band together and form their own governments with those they have the strongest relationships. I see all those independents that fought at Exagol saying, "I fought there I am entitled to x, y, and z." Along with the strongest criminal organizations seizing power and territory also.
I think eventually they might agree to some sort of larger governing body. But I see it more local than it was before. Perhaps a sector (or several sectors) join together and have a Sector or Regional Representative/Governor that represents their interests in the "New, New Republic".
Regardless, I think the days of no standing military are over. I think everyone is going to scramble to protect their own interests and commerce.
This leaves the Resistance in a precarious situation after Exagol. The New Republic was gone yet they were still fighting. Now that they won, what are they going to do? Poe is in no way, shape or form a bureaucrat, he's hardly a great General, so the likely hood of him becoming any other type of authority figure is a stretch. Perhaps they form the first inter-galactic police force...
Then there is the state of the Jedi. Finally Rey creates the new Jedi Order (the way Luke should have @#%$&*!). I think Finn would be her first student but he would still be very much involved with whatever Poe is doing. I think the squad of FS ex-stormtroopers is cool and they could be some of the next students. I think Rey would keep the Jedi separate from a government organization. Personally, I like the idea of Jedi Watchmen, each Jedi overseeing a sector or region of space. Rey's badass-ness would be enough to keep them all in line I think.
However, I really like the idea of a disgruntled student finding out Rey is really a Palpatine and feeling betrayed and turning to the dark side.
It is for sure a setting ripe with adventure!
5 hours ago, Inquisitor Tremayne said:However, I really like the idea of a disgruntled student finding out Rey is really a Palpatine and feeling betrayed and turning to the dark side.
Or even better: the student opposes Rey for the best of intensions. "How do we know this isn't just another facet of Palpatine's long game? He's been pulling the strings for 30 years from beyond the grave, so this could be him raising a Force Wielding Army that's hidden in plain sight!"
Edited by Desslok11 hours ago, Inquisitor Tremayne said:I'm with some others on this, I think regions and sectors are going to band together and form their own governments with those they have the strongest relationships. I see all those independents that fought at Exagol saying, "I fought there I am entitled to x, y, and z." Along with the strongest criminal organizations seizing power and territory also.
I think eventually they might agree to some sort of larger governing body. But I see it more local than it was before. Perhaps a sector (or several sectors) join together and have a Sector or Regional Representative/Governor that represents their interests in the "New, New Republic".
Regardless, I think the days of no standing military are over. I think everyone is going to scramble to protect their own interests and commerce.
This leaves the Resistance in a precarious situation after Exagol. The New Republic was gone yet they were still fighting. Now that they won, what are they going to do? Poe is in no way, shape or form a bureaucrat, he's hardly a great General, so the likely hood of him becoming any other type of authority figure is a stretch. Perhaps they form the first inter-galactic police force...
Then there is the state of the Jedi. Finally Rey creates the new Jedi Order (the way Luke should have @#%$&*!). I think Finn would be her first student but he would still be very much involved with whatever Poe is doing. I think the squad of FS ex-stormtroopers is cool and they could be some of the next students. I think Rey would keep the Jedi separate from a government organization. Personally, I like the idea of Jedi Watchmen, each Jedi overseeing a sector or region of space. Rey's badass-ness would be enough to keep them all in line I think.
However, I really like the idea of a disgruntled student finding out Rey is really a Palpatine and feeling betrayed and turning to the dark side.
It is for sure a setting ripe with adventure!
6 hours ago, Desslok said:Or even better: the student opposes Rey for the best of intensions. "How do we know this isn't just another facet of Palpatine's long game? He's been pulling the strings for 30 years from beyond the grave, so this could be him raising a Force Wielding Army that's hidden in plain sight!"
I think, that with the Jedi Order, Rey will likely be given a great deal of assistance from the spirits of Luke, Leia, and possibly Yoda and/or Obi-Wan taking a direct hand in training.
13 hours ago, Inquisitor Tremayne said:I'm with some others on this, I think regions and sectors are going to band together and form their own governments with those they have the strongest relationships. I see all those independents that fought at Exagol saying, "I fought there I am entitled to x, y, and z." Along with the strongest criminal organizations seizing power and territory also.
If I end up running a campaign someday in this future era, this will be the best part for me. A hodge-podge of varying governments across the Galaxy. A truly independent Hutt Space, a large piece claiming to be the rightful heirs to the Republic, out on the edge the Second Order, a Pirate Kingdom, the Confederacy of Corellia, the Independent Droid Conglomeracy of Elthree, etc, etc. The players may even join in an try to stake their claim to a subsector somewhere?
Of course for it all to be crushed in about 15 years when Disney releases Episode 10.
You know, Snoke being Palpatine's puppet ruler while he is the true unseen power, is exactly what Maul did with Dryden Vos and Crimson Dawn. If Maul was still alive he would have been livid.
On a related note, Maul has not been shown to have had an apprentice post-escaping Palpatine's clutches. So maybe...the Sith should never be completely defeated. Imagine if after the Battle of Exegol...Maul's apprentice and his/her apprentice are picking through the rubble and find a Sith Holocron and make statements about biding their time to strike back.
32 minutes ago, Voltron64 said:You know, Snoke being Palpatine's puppet ruler while he is the true unseen power, is exactly what Maul did with Dryden Vos and Crimson Dawn. If Maul was still alive he would have been livid.
On a related note, Maul has not been shown to have had an apprentice post-escaping Palpatine's clutches. So maybe...the Sith should never be completely defeated. Imagine if after the Battle of Exegol...Maul's apprentice and his/her apprentice are picking through the rubble and find a Sith Holocron and make statements about biding their time to strike back.
Qi'ra might have been his apprentice. it is not clear exactly what the extent of their relationship is and if she was an apprentice. Something happened between Solo and Rebels. Because Maul is alone in Rebels and kind of desperate for Ezra. almost lonely.
What happens when an authoritarian dictatorship falls? Just two examples from history:
Alexandrian Empire
Initially, two of Alexander's heirs were named joint kings. But within a decade, this arrangement collapsed -- followed by 40 years of war that ended with the empire divided and broken.
Roman Empire
The dissolution of the empire took place over the course of centuries -- marked by military defeats, instability, internal power struggles, repeated civil wars, barbarian invasions, even outbreaks of the plague.
14 minutes ago, NokDrayen said:
What happens when an authoritarian dictatorship falls? Just two examples from history:
Alexandrian Empire
Initially, two of Alexander's heirs were named joint kings. But within a decade, this arrangement collapsed -- followed by 40 years of war that ended with the empire divided and broken.
Roman Empire
The dissolution of the empire took place over the course of centuries -- marked by military defeats, instability, internal power struggles, repeated civil wars, barbarian invasions, even outbreaks of the plague.
You forgot the other examples. The Huns, and China
36 minutes ago, Daeglan said:You forgot the other examples. The Huns, and China
Of course, there are dozens of examples of fallen empires from throughout history. The main takeaway is that it's anything but a smooth, orderly transition. Plenty of room for conflict, chaos and interesting storytelling.
16 minutes ago, NokDrayen said:Of course, there are dozens of examples of fallen empires from throughout history. The main takeaway is that it's anything but a smooth, orderly transition. Plenty of room for conflict, chaos and interesting storytelling.
The US is unusual in its ability to have relatively smooth transitions of power.
1 minute ago, Daeglan said:The US is unusual in its ability to have relatively smooth transitions of power.
Not to get into politics, but the United States is neither an empire nor an authoritarian dictatorship.
An empire is an extensive group of states or countries ruled by a single supreme authority, especially an emperor or empress. The Alexandrian Empire was created during the unprecedented military campaign of Alexander the Great. The Roman Empire was born when Julius Caesar was named Dictator perpetuo -- "dictator in perpetuity," or dictator for life.
In the United States, power is divided between the executive (president), legislative (Congress) and judicial (Supreme Court) branches of government. And rules for the transition of power are set out in the Constitution, rather than being determined by force.
5 minutes ago, NokDrayen said:Not to get into politics, but the United States is neither an empire nor an authoritarian dictatorship.
An empire is an extensive group of states or countries ruled by a single supreme authority, especially an emperor or empress. The Alexandrian Empire was created during the unprecedented military campaign of Alexander the Great. The Roman Empire was born when Julius Caesar was named Dictator perpetuo -- "dictator in perpetuity," or dictator for life.
In the United States, power is divided between the executive (president), legislative (Congress) and judicial (Supreme Court) branches of government. And rules for the transition of power are set out in the Constitution, rather than being determined by force.
And that is what was pretty unique
Never mind.
Edited by DesslokThere will always be another Star War.
On 1/12/2020 at 9:38 PM, JEL said:I agree it's a great time to start a campaign. And if a new book or movie or comic comes out, and contradicts what a campaign has laid out, who cares?
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There are definitely going to be some First Order supporters, maybe even First Order military assets left out of the destruction on Exegol, that try to impose "order" on as much space as they can claim.
Also, might be worth exploring the planets/sectors in the Unknown Region that supported and helped grow the First Order.
What happens to all the Force Users alluded to in TLJ? If Rey tries to set up a new Jedi order, that brings one set of advantages and challenges. If she pulls a Luke and nopes out of training new Jedi, then perhaps a different set of challenges.
What if there's another powerful Force User awakened by the events of the sequel trilogy that doesn't, for whatever reason, get trained by Rey? Could that person try to pull the galaxy together under their banner?
What about a charismatic leader that convinces a following that Force Users are essentially responsible for the past 70+ years of galactic warfare, and that Jedi, Sith, et.al. should be shunned and kept out of any kind of roles of authority?
Lots of fun possibilities to explore!
Specifically that last sentence shouldnโt be very hard. Since yeah itโs true.
Ooh, I just got myself some ideas for a good duo of villains for both canon characters and any PC groups (or together even) to face off against.
The archaic wizard of the dark side Tor Valum and his colleague and enforcer, Atha Prime .
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