Steve Rogers - Living Legend

By Howez92, in Marvel Champions: The Card Game

Steve Rogers Card reads: "Living Legend - Reduce the cost of the first ally played each round by 1".

I just wanted confirmation that I am interpreting this correctly. This would mean if player 1 had played an ally. Then captain America is player 2 and switches to Steve rogers alter ego his effect would not apply as an ally has already been played even though Steve Rogers was not in play at this point.

In effect Steve rogers ability is only useful if he started the round as alter ego therefore benefiting the next ally played by anyone. Or it is also useful if by the time Cap switched to Steve rogers mid round there hadn't already been an ally played.

I suppose a RAW interruption of that would go that way. If this question is asked to one of the developers though I am betting they would say the opposite.

Interesting. I guess I had assumed it said the first ally you play each round but it doesn't. That said should a card have memory of things that happened previously in the round? Yeah an ally might have been played this round before you flip to the alter ego side on Captain America's turn, but wouldn't his card text just start tracking from the point that it becomes active? Therefore the heroes would get a discount on the next ally played that round.

On 1/11/2020 at 5:52 AM, Howez92 said:

Steve Rogers Card reads: "Living Legend - Reduce the cost of the first ally played each round by 1".

I just wanted confirmation that I am interpreting this correctly. This would mean if player 1 had played an ally. Then captain America is player 2 and switches to Steve rogers alter ego his effect would not apply as an ally has already been played even though Steve Rogers was not in play at this point.

In effect Steve rogers ability is only useful if he started the round as alter ego therefore benefiting the next ally played by anyone. Or it is also useful if by the time Cap switched to Steve rogers mid round there hadn't already been an ally played.

This is the only correct way to interpret the ability without further input from FFG. In my experience there can be some ambiguity in card wordings, but when the wording is clear as (IMO) it is in this case, then you should interpret it literally.

1 hour ago, Tarliyn said:

I suppose a RAW interruption of that would go that way. If this question is asked to one of the developers though I am betting they would say the opposite.

They confirmed in the live stream that is exactly how it works. So, sometimes you get the benefit, sometimes you won’t.

Agreeing with @Derrault . When designer Michael Boggs played with Zach from Team Covenant on a TC stream that is how he explained it working. Now, it's been stated that Caleb Grace was the lead designer for the Captain America deck and Michael could have been mistaken, but I'd doubt that (95%). :P

12 hours ago, rees263 said:

This is the only correct way to interpret the ability without further input from FFG. In my experience there can be some ambiguity in card wordings, but when the wording is clear as (IMO) it is in this case, then you should interpret it literally.

This.

The card text is crystal clear and I don't see how we could interpret it otherwise. We might WANT to read it saying something else, but it really doesn't.