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By Amc879, in X-Wing Squad Lists

Goth these four ships for X-Mas and am trying to come up with the best combo for them. Head simmed some Cassian and Braylen and Leia in the mix, but settled on this. Its aggressive, but thats how I like to fly. Please share alternate teams and/or thoughts on this one. Thanks all!

A/SF-01 B-wing - •Braylen Stramm - 51
•Braylen Stramm - Blade Leader (51)

BTL-A4 Y-wing - •Norra Wexley - 54
•Norra Wexley - Gold Nine (41)
Ion Cannon Turret (5)
Veteran Turret Gunner (8)

T-65 X-wing - •Thane Kyrell - 48
•Thane Kyrell - Corona Four (48)
Servomotor S-foils (Open) (0)

UT-60D U-wing - •Heff Tobber - 47
•Heff Tobber - Blue Eight (45)
•Jyn Erso (2)
Pivot Wing (Open) (0)

Total: 200/200

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Braylen Stramm, "Dutch" Vander, Garven Dreis and Cassian Andor. Nuff said. Great pilot skill synergy amongst the entire squad. Lots of points for upgrades. I'd wait that one more day to see what kind of price they will tag the B-Wing foils with.

It's not something everyone agrees on, but personally I'd say if you're not taking Cassian, Leia or another suitable support for Braylen that Ten is actually the better choice.

Braylen's ability to get double modded attacks is stronger, no doubt. But without Cassian or Leia he can start to struggle in the second or third round of engagement as you end up locked in to blue moves if you want to maintain the double mods (the whole point of bringing him in the first place). There will come a time when you need to pull the 1 tallon roll and can't because you're still stressed from the previous round, and where dialing a white lets you keep the rerolls, but you reroll to eyes and desperately wish you had a focus.

Ten is more independent.

If you can get him a lock early game with a co-ordinate, then you can use FCS to get at least one re-roll, but when you get eyes you can spend your stress and free up your dial for next turn. Ten with FCS is still a point cheaper than Braylen. That means you can also take Crack Shot on him, which can make him as potent as Braylen at the right time.

Also, unless you're taking Zeb, Intimidation or Tactical Officer as well, I'm not really convinced Heff is worth the points over the Blue or Partisan. Think about what you're going to use that extra action for. Assuming you focus as your standard action, your choices are lock for double mods (except you can't shoot whoever you just bumped) or a co-ordinate to give someone else an action, but at the cost of stress. The stress is huge because once you've achieved your Heff block, the best move next turn is almost always the red stop. It forces them to go fast to clear you (because they'll see the block coming), which normally takes them out of the fight. It also makes them relatively predictable, letting you either block again with a different ship or get guns on them. But you can't pull that stop if you're already stressed, so Tactical Officer makes a huge difference.

I'd probably save two more points by dropping to the Partisan Renegade. You guarantee you can block a few more things by dropping from I2 to I1, if you want to use your U-Wing as a coordinating blocker.

Thane's not ideally placed in this list. His ability clashes somewhat his Initiative. Ideally, Thane wants to be shooting as late as possible to give the rest of your list chance to put damage cards through for him to flip. Here, he's only got Norra to shoot before him, and even with the double tap her damage output isn't great.

If you're just running him as an I5 X-Wing, then fair enough. He's solid. But given that you have no bid at all with him in the list, I'd ponder switching down to Garven. He can work really well with a coordinator, as it means that your U-Wing can co-ordinate a focus to Garven, Garven can take a lock for himself for double mods, then he can pass the focus back to the U-Wing (even when the U-Wing is stressed, as it's not an action) before the U-Wing shoots, so it gets some mods as well.

Alternatively, he can bring Braylen back into contention. With Garven in the list, Braylen can stress for double mods in the first round of combat, then dial in a white, keep the stress for rerolls and potentially get a focus from Garven as Garven can still shoot before Braylen.

Norra's a solid choice, and probably the last thing I'd change, but consider that you can bring in Dutch to do basically the opposite job of Garven as above.

Personally, I think this version of those four ships is stronger, but see what you think:

Ten Numb + FCS (50)

Dutch Vander + Ion Cannon Turret (45)

Wedge Antilles + Crack Shot (56)

Partisan Renegade + Tactical Officer (49)

200 total.

I actually prefer setting ICT to a side arc and flying my Y-Wing in supporting diagonals and around the edge of the engagement area to the front only double tap. I think the extra arc coverage buys you way more with the Y-Wing's dial being what it is. None of the Y-Wings really have enough access to dice mods to make the double tap worth it.

So something more like this?

A/SF-01 B-wing - •Braylen Stramm - 51
•Braylen Stramm - Blade Leader (51)

BTL-A4 Y-wing - •“Dutch” Vander - 45
•“Dutch” Vander - Gold Leader (40)
Ion Cannon Turret (5)

UT-60D U-wing - •Cassian Andor - 57
•Cassian Andor - Raised by the Rebellion (51)
•Leia Organa (6)
Pivot Wing (Open) (0)

T-65 X-wing - •Garven Dreis - 47
•Garven Dreis - Red Leader (47)
Servomotor S-foils (Open) (0)

Total: 200/200

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1 hour ago, Amc879 said:

So something more like this?

A/SF-01 B-wing - •Braylen Stramm - 51
•Braylen Stramm - Blade Leader (51)

BTL-A4 Y-wing - •“Dutch” Vander - 45
•“Dutch” Vander - Gold Leader (40)
Ion Cannon Turret (5)

UT-60D U-wing - •Cassian Andor - 57
•Cassian Andor - Raised by the Rebellion (51)
•Leia Organa (6)
Pivot Wing (Open) (0)

T-65 X-wing - •Garven Dreis - 47
•Garven Dreis - Red Leader (47)
Servomotor S-foils (Open) (0)

Total: 200/200

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You might be tempted to try the Cannon B-Wing, that will come with the Hotshots and Aces pack. With the Stabilized S-Foils on B-Wing you can doubletap with a cannon by spending lock. For which Braylen is the best, if he can get a Lock from "Dutch". You can Stress yourself with a maneuver or a Roll > Red Focus and get a Lock from "Dutch". And then you can either use a Primary/Jamming Beam > Autoblasters with Stress = 2 rerolls on both attacks and a Focus token. What I like about the Jamming Beam is, that Braylen shoots first and he can strip tokens from a defending enemy for the rest of your squadron to exploit.

Cassian Andor in U-Wing is crucial, if you want to use Braylen to his fullest. He also has a Crew slot for Leia, who enables a lot of the squadron's maneuverability. Other than that, it is a solid gunboat with lots of Hull and Shields and two green dice.

Garven Dreis is there to share Focuses, nothing else. Best case scenario, Braylen strips green tokens with Jamming Beam first, then Garven does a pew pew and shares the Focus to "Dutch" or Cassian, depending who will use it better.

"Dutch" Vander is there to enable Braylen to use the doubletap function of the Stab-Foils, or to allow Garven to have double mods, as the X-Wing should always take the Focus Action.

  1. Braylen Stramm (B-Wing): Jamming Beam, Autoblasters, Stablized S-Foils
  2. "Dutch" Vander (Y-Wing)
  3. Garven Dreis (X-Wing)
  4. Cassian Andor (U-Wing): Leia Organa (Crew)

I left 13 points for the Stab-Foils, depending on how much they will finally be priced at, you can slap some additional upgrades onto the ships. Dorsal Turret on Y-Wing is a good pick, allowing you to work around the clumsiness of the ship and maintaining it on target for longer. Predator on Garven is a very good choice, allowing him to Focus and have this one reroll. FCS on Cassian perhaps. Or Tactical Officer to avoid Stress on the U-Wing.

On 1/8/2020 at 12:17 PM, Schanez said:

I left 13 points for the Stab-Foils, depending on how much they will finally be priced at, you can slap some additional upgrades onto the ships. Dorsal Turret on Y-Wing is a good pick, allowing you to work around the clumsiness of the ship and maintaining it on target for longer. Predator on Garven is a very good choice, allowing him to Focus and have this one reroll. FCS on Cassian perhaps. Or Tactical Officer to avoid Stress on the U-Wing.

Stab-foils at 2pts. What to do with the remaining 11?

20 minutes ago, LUZ_TAK said:

Stab-foils at 2pts. What to do with the remaining 11?

I saw the stream. With Stab at 2 points, you can easily slap Garven with Predator to let him have double mods without a Lock. "Ducth" could use Plasma Torpedoes for the remaining 9 to have 3 dice at every range, although giving him Dorsal Turret is better imho. Especially since you can fit a Veteran Turret Gunner with it as well, to enable two shots per turn. Although I would rather leave just the turret and invest in some droids perhaps. R4 on Y-Wing. R2 on X-Wing. Maybe FCS on U-Wing. The Crew to give Cassian a white Coordinate is also an option.

The core here are the pilot abilities. The rest is up to you, to tinker with and see, what fits your playstyle best.

On 1/8/2020 at 3:17 PM, Schanez said:

  1. Braylen Stramm (B-Wing): Jamming Beam, Autoblasters, Stablized S-Foils
  2. "Dutch" Vander (Y-Wing)
  3. Garven Dreis (X-Wing)
  4. Cassian Andor (U-Wing): Leia Organa (Crew)

I left 13 points for the Stab-Foils, depending on how much they will finally be priced at

I think your maths is wrong.

Even without the s-foils and before the points change that list only left 3 points free.

Are you sure weren't looking at this with the U-Wing left generic or something?

Braylen + Autoblasters was 53

Dutch was/is 40

Garven was/is 47

Cassian + Leia was 57

That's 197 total.

The list has since gone up 3 points with +1 to Leia, Braylen and Autoblasters.

Including the s-foils isn't actually possible and you definitely don't have room for other upgrades.

Ten with the new config, Biggs, a Selfless Gold Y with ICT, and Cassian with Leia is a well rounded beef list imo!

In eying cassian with K2 and switching ten in for braylen

On 1/10/2020 at 4:41 PM, GuacCousteau said:

I think your maths is wrong.

Even without the s-foils and before the points change that list only left 3 points free.

Are you sure weren't looking at this with the U-Wing left generic or something?

Braylen + Autoblasters was 53

Dutch was/is 40

Garven was/is 47

Cassian + Leia was 57

That's 197 total.

The list has since gone up 3 points with +1 to Leia, Braylen and Autoblasters.

Including the s-foils isn't actually possible and you definitely don't have room for other upgrades.

Possibly. I had a few YASB tabs open. Can always swap Garven for Jake, although harder to get the Focuses onto other ships with him.

Mostly, Braylen + Dutch is a killer combo now. The rest is up to taste.

I am tinkering with a non-hyperspace list with Nora, Thane and Gina. All I5 and Gina with double tap potential.

(48) Thane Kyrell [T-65 X-wing]
(2) R4 Astromech
(0) Servomotor S-foils
(6) Afterburners
Points: 56

(41) Norra Wexley [BTL-A4 Y-wing]
(2) R4 Astromech
(10) Veteran Turret Gunner
(6) Afterburners
(3) Dorsal Turret
Points: 62

(50) Gina Moonsong [A/SF-01 B-wing]
(3) Autoblasters
(2) Stabilized S-Foils
(6) Afterburners
(2) Fire-Control System
(13) Proton Torpedoes
Points: 76

Total points: 194

Edited by Schanez

BBUS

GinaTenCassianAP-5

(50) Gina Moonsong [A/SF-01 B-wing]
(3) Autoblasters
(2) Stabilized S-Foils
Points: 55

(48) Ten Numb [A/SF-01 B-wing]
(3) Autoblasters
(2) Stabilized S-Foils
Points: 53

(51) Cassian Andor [UT-60D U-wing]
(8) K-2SO
Points: 59

(32) AP-5 [Sheathipede-class Shuttle]
Points: 32

Total points: 199

5 minutes ago, pakirby said:

BBUS

GinaTenCassianAP-5

(50) Gina Moonsong [A/SF-01 B-wing]
(3) Autoblasters
(2) Stabilized S-Foils
Points: 55

(48) Ten Numb [A/SF-01 B-wing]
(3) Autoblasters
(2) Stabilized S-Foils
Points: 53

(51) Cassian Andor [UT-60D U-wing]
(8) K-2SO
Points: 59

(32) AP-5 [Sheathipede-class Shuttle]
Points: 32

Total points: 199

If you want to take advantage of the new B-wing config, you might want to find space for FCS, as it is a free reroll on your first attack

39 minutes ago, LeMightyASP said:

If you want to take advantage of the new B-wing config, you might want to find space for FCS, as it is a free reroll on your first attack

True. But I can’t fit it with all of the Cassian/AP-5/K2SO stress shenanigans I have going on here...system phase AP-5 can coordinate a ship with a single stress token. Cassian can relieve a ships stress at start of activation. Start if engagement Gina HAS to transfer stress to another ship. One B-wing gets calculate & Target Lock while the other gets Focus & Target Lock each round. Gina would have a calculate & lock, while ten would have Focus, Lock & 2 stress for: primary & cannon attack, or primary & defense.

9 minutes ago, pakirby said:

True. But I can’t fit it with all of the Cassian/AP-5/K2SO stress shenanigans I have going on here...system phase AP-5 can coordinate a ship with a single stress token. Cassian can relieve a ships stress at start of activation. Start if engagement Gina HAS to transfer stress to another ship. One B-wing gets calculate & Target Lock while the other gets Focus & Target Lock each round. Gina would have a calculate & lock, while ten would have Focus, Lock & 2 stress for: primary & cannon attack, or primary & defense.

fair enough :)

But be careful about ten, it's not that easy to shed 2 stress during engagement with him, especially if your opponent is not cooperating. I guess you do have Cassian to cover that though.

Fun list!

2 hours ago, LeMightyASP said:

fair enough :)

But be careful about ten, it's not that easy to shed 2 stress during engagement with him, especially if your opponent is not cooperating. I guess you do have Cassian to cover that though.

Fun list!

It is if he is double tapping 😎

Awesome list. Stolen.