8 hours ago, Andreievitch said:

Whilst I would prefer SW to stay in the narrative system, I REALLY hope it doesn't go back to WotC. I have no time for the level system, especially for SW

Actually, as a 3.5 groupie I was quite fond of the SAGA approach (minus how the force was handled), the D20 predsessor was indeed awful. What I would fear most with a WotC approach would be a dumbed down 5th ed version.

The Conan/Infinity 2D20 version of Modiphiüs (btw, a Jay Little child) could be appropriate, because it is non level and even more free form than the specialization Trees.

2 hours ago, Honest said:

At worst, even if there is no more SWRPG, there is SO much material out there for people to run campaigns indefinitely

At best, 3 or 4 new books a year is fine

Fingers crossed

Honest

True. I still run Justifiers game that came out and died out in the 80s. Plenty of material from FFG already but still always enjoy getting new stuff.

2 hours ago, Honest said:

At worst, even if there is no more SWRPG, there is SO much material out there for people to run campaigns indefinitely

At best, 3 or 4 new books a year is fine

Fingers crossed

Honest

Indeed, hopefully similar to SW D6. Though I wished they would have provided additional material about the Old Republic era so we could be able to play in the days of the Sith-Jedi-Wars. This is what WotC actually did with their SAGA edition.

I doubt it, but perhaps there'll be some news about this ... at some point... from FFG or their owners.

Luckily I'm only missing the one book, that is not released yet. So at least I'll have a complete collection, this time around.

I feel this is a tragedy, if - as one is wont to do in situations like this - I may jump to a conclusion. Mainly for the for the unemployment of so many, but also, at least a bit, as a fan and gamer (i.e. consumer) I feel it is sad that, possibly, my favourite game may now be discontinued due to (yeah yeah yeah) some cynical, narrow-minded, corporate scumbag(s) whose world only exists in relative numbers in search for perpetual growth. Bah. Anyhew. That's jumping to conclusions enough for now. We know nothing beyond that linkedin/reddit post. For now.

So, get those dice while you still can, and extra copies of books that are worn! Before the prices skyrocket on ebay in a few months

Me feeding the fear and causing panic? Never!

It's sad, particularly for those affected by job losses.

Doesn't really affect my desire to play the game, though, as it is complete enough, and open enough, to run Star Wars games until the end of time!

Edit - Though in an ideal world, reprints would continue!

So this email came to me by way of Legends of the Galaxy. They are encouraging people to write in and ask Asmodee to keep the RPG staff going. https://www.asmodeena.com/en/contact/

15 minutes ago, GM_Needs_A_Xanex said:

So this email came to me by way of Legends of the Galaxy. They are encouraging people to write in and ask Asmodee to keep the RPG staff going. https://www.asmodeena.com/en/contact/

Try writing to them that you'll crowdfund all of their salaries and benefits--not to mention bulk prepaid (non-refundable even if they never come out!) preorders on all RPG products they make (but no, you don't get creative input)--and you might have a shot. Otherwise, you're not speaking a language that corporate understands.

Just now, HappyDaze said:

Try writing to them that you'll crowdfund all of their salaries and benefits--not to mention bulk preorders on all RPG products they make (but no, you don't get creative input)--and you might have a shot. Otherwise, you're not speaking a language that corporate understands.

Cynical but probably true. However "Doing nothing guarantees that nothing will happen." I forget who said that.

Also "Rebellions are built on hope."

5 hours ago, Honest said:

At worst, even if there is no more SWRPG, there is SO much material out there for people to run campaigns indefinitely

At best, 3 or 4 new books a year is fine

Fingers crossed

Honest

Here's hoping there is still new stuff.

My main concern is that everything stays in print. I still have so many books to get.

Well, as a casual Armada player, FFG is not great at communication. Armada fell fallow without a major release for about a year with almost complete radio silence from FFG. The fans whinged and wined and doom-sayed for a long time. Now its slowly starting to see new expansions again. So a slowdown and silence doesn't necessarily mean we need to start playing "this is the end" from the Doors."

Keep in mind that Disney appears to be scrambling to fill holes in their production schedule for Disney+. The timing of their shift to focus on small screen content while they regroup for the big screen after IX is a little bit "off." I think that's why we're getting the short Clone Wars season 7 in the next month or two. The Kenobi and Cassian Andor series are going into production, but probably won't hit the screen until after Mandalorian season 2.

If you are a licence holder waiting for new stories to flesh new content with that's a BIG gap. Few companies are going to keep a fully staffed department with nothing to do on staff during a production downturn. Now that IX is out, FFG could produce 2-3 books based on the sequel era in the interim, but that doesn't require more than an editor, a layout person, and 1 or 2 potentially freelance writers.

I feel bad for the designers and writers, that totally sucks and I hope they land on their feet. They books have been top notch and they are great talent, so I have no doubt they will find their way.

From a SW RPG gaming perspective...I'm totally covered. Got in at the beginning, have almost all the books (except gear and ships), and have coded my own mods and pdf generator to make the game more streamlined, converted to Genesys, etc. I have zero interest in another set of rules for the game should the license go elsewhere, and definitely not interested in another D20 version.

Now, I would *still* buy every book they publish, so if any grubby executives are reading this and having second thoughts, you should totally reverse this decision and pump out more resource, location, and timeline books.

Ironically, I just put my entire Saga edition collection on eBay...14 Saga books (including Kotor)...maybe I should have kept them

6 minutes ago, whafrog said:

Ironically, I just put my entire Saga edition collection on eBay...14 Saga books (including Kotor)...maybe I should have kept them

Nah, you should send them to me ...

5 minutes ago, whafrog said:

Now, I would *still* buy every book they publish, so if any grubby executives are reading this and having second thoughts, you should totally reverse this decision and pump out more resource, location, and timeline books.

Indeed, to the - I'm sure quite lovely and decent - execs that may be reading, I still have many more books to buy, having got on late, and have bought all the black covered era/gear/npc recent releases as they've come out. So please, keep printing, keep producing, and we'll all keep buying.

Well, until we get some concrete news, it’s certainly bumper picking up L5R (beyond the Beginner Game that I picked up last year) books. I’ve got all of the SW content and The End of the World. For Genesys, I’m just short the GM screen. But I’ve held off on L5R.

I just ordered the core book, GM screen and some more dice for L5R. Not entirely sure I'll go for anything more just yet, I have most of it for 1st and 2nd edition from DTRPG way back in the day, and a bunch of 3rd edition stuff too.

Looking around for the expanded player's guide for Genesys.

I'm only missing the specialisation cards from SW of all that's been released, but even from miniature market that more than 700 monies to get the lot (minus 3 decks they're sold out of).

The down side for me is that the most reliable game store near me to get them from is picked bare after their annual store-wide “buy 2, get 1 free” sale that runs from Thanksgiving to New Year’s Day. Heck, I missed out on the Genesys GM screen by just a couple of days (they had a copy 12/17, which was gone when I went to get it 12/21). As of my last trip there 12/31, they had about 4 L5R GM screens, and that was it for the line. Call me weird, but when I have the chance, I prefer to select physical books myself, so I can check their condition (a preference driven home by a horrible experience with a severely damaged copy of The Secret History of Twin Peaks ).

So with all the downsizing, not only of the RPG department but of apparently other teams as well, I wonder if these forums are going to be next on the chopping block?

Let's face it, the forums really don't generate any revenue, there's zero interaction with FFG as a company, and I'm sure the corporate bean counters can find more effective things to spend their money on.

True, depends on the operating cost.

Hmmm...thinking I should maybe add forums to mySWRPG, so anyone so inclined has someplace to go.

Just in case.

3 hours ago, Jegergryte said:

So, get those dice while you still can, and extra copies of books that are worn!

Strong point. While I'm all caught up on the books (save for the Genesis GM screen and the player handbook), laying in an extra set of dice or two is not a bad idea. Over the past several years, they've slowly been scattered to the winds - I still have enough to play, but backups is always good!

1 minute ago, Jegergryte said:

True, depends on the operating cost.

I recall seeing, around the time that WotC shut down their forums, that for them the forums were really just another form of advertising. With these types of discussions migrating more and more to other platforms (such as Facebook and Reddit), it's a form of advertising that becomes less and less effective.

Granted, relying on other platforms carries the issue of the parent company not having direct control the way they would over company-owned and operated forums.

Having lightly-curated forums attached to your already existing main business website is incidental when compared to salaries, benefits, and product development costs. Could they cut it? Sure. Would it really make a difference savings-wise? Not compared to more obvious bigger ticket items. People usually start with the low-hanging fruit. I \ proffer a more sanguine "wait and see" approach is healthier than imagining worst-case scenarios.

6 minutes ago, Nytwyng said:

Hmmm...thinking I should maybe add forums to mySWRPG, so anyone so inclined has someplace to go.

Just in case.

I saw a number of folks try something similar with WotC and their Saga Edition RPG after WotC announced they were shutting down their forums. They had a bit of life at first, but very quickly died out as most of the community from the WotC boards didn't migrate over.

Not saying the same thing would happen for you, but there's precedent that your forums won't see nearly the same volume of traffic and may well wind up becoming a virtual ghost town.

2 minutes ago, Donovan Morningfire said:

I saw a number of folks try something similar with WotC and their Saga Edition RPG after WotC announced they were shutting down their forums. They had a bit of life at first, but very quickly died out as most of the community from the WotC boards didn't migrate over.

Not saying the same thing would happen for you, but there's precedent that your forums won't see nearly the same volume of traffic and may well wind up becoming a virtual ghost town.

Oh for sure. When a central hub on an official company site like this goes away, the participants definitely splinter. If I set some up, no illusions of even starting with traffic remotely close to this, if it were to get any traction at all. And if it dried up...well, it wouldn’t be the first forums I’ve shuttered (RIP, my Star Wars Galaxies player city site).

Mainly thinking out loud...and well in advance of any hypothetical FFG forum shutdown.

If the forums shut down, there is tons of material that needs to be rescued.

[slides down a dune on a pice of scrap metal]