1 hour ago, daggertx said:

Does that title mean she is in charge of the RPG stuff?

Think of her like starygroup at lucasfilm. In charge of keeping things on track story wise across everything. So likely metaplot for rpgs falls in her perview

31 minutes ago, Daeglan said:

Think of her like starygroup at lucasfilm. In charge of keeping things on track story wise across everything. So likely metaplot for rpgs falls in her perview

Except that the Star Wars "story wise" decisions aren't made by anyone at FFG. She might have a band in the Genesys and L5R products of they end up making any more of them (which I'm still doubting).

12 hours ago, Vondy said:

Would you settle for "they Flanderize everything they touch?"

Disney has a strong brand and are very good at telling stories marketed to a very particular set of sensibilities. They also have a tendency to homogenize previously distinctive properties they acquire in order to broaden their appeal and maximize profits. That is neither evil nor, for anyone who is paying attention, controversial as an observation. Its how mega-corporations make money.

The natural consequence, however, is that franchises with historically distinctive flavors are rendered bland by the standards of their historical consumers. That doesn't mean there aren't people who like what Disney has done, or even more people, or that Disney won't make a giant wads of cash. Plenty of people like it. Yet, Its not at all unreasonable, or unexpected, for a sizable chunk of the historical fan-base to say they don't like what Disney did to the franchise.

Mocking them for expressing an aesthetic opinion you don't share just makes you look small.

Let's say you grew up in Tejano country just north of the Rio Grand eating in a authentic Tex Mex restaurants. Its spicy and uses unique local ingredients. Then the owners decide to retire and sell to Taco Bell for a pretty penny. Would anyone be surprised to hear the old customers say "Taco Bell food sucks"? Would anyone really blame them? You can like Taco Bell and still understand why they wouldn't.

Just move on, dude. Life is to short to cast stones over aesthetic differences.

2 hours ago, HappyDaze said:

Except that the Star Wars "story wise" decisions aren't made by anyone at FFG. She might have a band in the Genesys and L5R products of they end up making any more of them (which I'm still doubting).

Well that is not entirely true and FFG’s writers have expanded on and invented elements of the universe since starting the line. Albeit with major restrictions and checks and balances by LFL Of course.

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7 hours ago, daggertx said:

Does that title mean she is in charge of the RPG stuff?

No clue.

I suspect Kat's role will concentrate on the meta plots of many of the various IPs that FFG already owns such as Keyforge, Descent/Terrinoth, L5R (her baby), etc...

On the plus side, Starships and Speeders is shipping... :-)

On 2/7/2020 at 8:07 AM, kaosoe said:

I suspect Kat's role will concentrate on the meta plots of many of the various IPs that FFG already owns such as Keyforge, Descent/Terrinoth, L5R (her baby), etc...

Other folks will have different opinions, but Legend of the 5 Rings rpg was a huge dud for my group and I.

I’ve never seen a rpg so restricted by its setting. You’re either a diverse group that always has to band together because (insert stereotypical event here) happened at a tournament or everyone has the same “class” (which can lead to some wild character personalities, but the PCs have to maintain interest in keeping that). It’s like the game is made for one-offs.

So forgive me if I’m not terribly impressed by someone involved in “creating” the lore for that (creating in quotes here because it’s not really a challenge to write fan fiction within feudal Japan with the plethora of research material available).

You are aware l5r has been around for ages?

Don't feed the troll.

12 hours ago, DanteRotterdam said:

You are aware l5r has been around for ages?

I am, but what’s your point here? I’m referencing the FFG rpg (that’s very new) which felt heavily restricted by the setting (again, my opinion) that was originally designed for a card game (only to be later adapted into a d10 rpg I did not play). I don’t get how longevity changes any of that.

If anything it has the unfortunate effect of making Kat’s contributions to that world seem to carry less weight since it’s such an already established license. I was at least giving her credit of going through history and adding to it.

Oh wait, is not enjoying every product FFG produces considered trolling now? I was unaware the degree of loyalty that must be shown to post properly in these forums.

9 minutes ago, Flavorabledeez said:

I am, but what’s your point here? I’m referencing the FFG rpg (that’s very new) which felt heavily restricted by the setting (again, my opinion) that was originally designed for a card game (only to be later adapted into a d10 rpg I did not play). I don’t get how longevity changes any of that.

If anything it has the unfortunate effect of making Kat’s contributions to that world seem to carry less weight since it’s such an already established license. I was at least giving her credit of going through history and adding to it.

Oh wait, is not enjoying every product FFG produces considered trolling now? I was unaware the degree of loyalty that must be shown to post properly in these forums.

Given they rebooted the timeline entirely and have already made significant changes to the world in ways that make more sense than the previous version.

16 minutes ago, Daeglan said:

Given they rebooted the timeline entirely and have already made significant changes to the world in ways that make more sense than the previous version.

So it was worse before?

Look, here’s my experience with L5R rpg (FFG’s version). I saw previews for it here, thought it looked like it could be a good time, so I started a thread in the L5R rpg forum asking “to be sold on this game.” People thought I was trolling there too because I asked about variety in character creation since the setting seemed too restrictive. Once they realized I was serious about the question, they couldn’t refute it.

So not wanting to take anyone else’s word for it, my gaming group got the starter and gave it a go. We enjoyed the concept of honor, but after brainstorming once we finished the starter we came to the conclusion that a longterm campaign just wasn’t really possible due to the setting (I had some ideas, but they were crazy fragile).

It really does seem as though if you want diversity of character types in your party you have to follow the same “there’s a tournament going on” beginning, middle, and end. It’s worse than the D&D party coming together via a bar fight and/or being thrown in jail together.

We wanted to like it, but it just required far more effort to make it work due to the setting. My hats off to those who could make it work for their group.

17 minutes ago, Flavorabledeez said:

So it was worse before?

Look, here’s my experience with L5R rpg (FFG’s version). I saw previews for it here, thought it looked like it could be a good time, so I started a thread in the L5R rpg forum asking “to be sold on this game.” People thought I was trolling there too because I asked about variety in character creation since the setting seemed too restrictive. Once they realized I was serious about the question, they couldn’t refute it.

So not wanting to take anyone else’s word for it, my gaming group got the starter and gave it a go. We enjoyed the concept of honor, but after brainstorming once we finished the starter we came to the conclusion that a longterm campaign just wasn’t really possible due to the setting (I had some ideas, but they were crazy fragile).

It really does seem as though if you want diversity of character types in your party you have to follow the same “there’s a tournament going on” beginning, middle, and end. It’s worse than the D&D party coming together via a bar fight and/or being thrown in jail together.

We wanted to like it, but it just required far more effort to make it work due to the setting. My hats off to those who could make it work for their group.

What do you mean with "diversity of character types"?

I played a 3 year long campaign of this, with the PCs starting as rookie magistrates of the dragon and Phoenix clans (the plot limited character creation to the Dragon, Phoenix, and Unicorn clans), handpicked by our lords to sort out what had happened to the previous magistrates, in an affair involving both clans. and we had among 5 players a combat mage, tank fighter, fighter/diplomat, mage/dimplomat, and a rogue.

Why would a tournament be involved with party creation?

10 minutes ago, Flavorabledeez said:

So it was worse before?

Look, here’s my experience with L5R rpg (FFG’s version). I saw previews for it here, thought it looked like it could be a good time, so I started a thread in the L5R rpg forum asking “to be sold on this game.” People thought I was trolling there too because I asked about variety in character creation since the setting seemed too restrictive. Once they realized I was serious about the question, they couldn’t refute it.

So not wanting to take anyone else’s word for it, my gaming group got the starter and gave it a go. We enjoyed the concept of honor, but after brainstorming once we finished the starter we came to the conclusion that a longterm campaign just wasn’t really possible due to the setting (I had some ideas, but they were crazy fragile).

It really does seem as though if you want diversity of character types in your party you have to follow the same “there’s a tournament going on” beginning, middle, and end. It’s worse than the D&D party coming together via a bar fight and/or being thrown in jail together.

We wanted to like it, but it just required far more effort to make it work due to the setting. My hats off to those who could make it work for their group.

define restrictive?

This discussion has taken another weird turn.

It had a weird beginning.

"I heard they re-hired Kat Ostrander to manage the stories"

"Yeah but likely for IPs that FFGs owns" *names off various IPs including L5R*

"Oh I hate L5R"

<commence side-tracking>

On 2/5/2020 at 3:08 PM, Morninghasbroken said:

Here is a crazy idea. EA takes over the SW RPG IP. EA owns the video game IP giving them access to PDF sales. EA has the resources to hire a writing staff. The SW RPG property could provide EA with a good basis if they wanted to enter the role-playing business.

This Is a theoretical.

Otherwise, Fantasy Flight can go the route of CGL. Have one chief editor who collaborates with freelancers to continue the RPG line.

Please please please don't!

EA is a moneygrabbing, false advertising, customercheating megacompany.

On 2/6/2020 at 7:36 PM, Vondy said:

Would you settle for "they Flanderize everything they touch?"

Disney has a strong brand and are very good at telling stories marketed to a very particular set of sensibilities. They also have a tendency to homogenize previously distinctive properties they acquire in order to broaden their appeal and maximize profits. That is neither evil nor, for anyone who is paying attention, controversial as an observation. Its how mega-corporations make money.

The natural consequence, however, is that franchises with historically distinctive flavors are rendered bland by the standards of their historical consumers. That doesn't mean there aren't people who like what Disney has done, or even more people, or that Disney won't make a giant wads of cash. Plenty of people like it. Yet, Its not at all unreasonable, or unexpected, for a sizable chunk of the historical fan-base to say they don't like what Disney did to the franchise.

Mocking them for expressing an aesthetic opinion you don't share just makes you look small.

Let's say you grew up in Tejano country just north of the Rio Grand eating in a authentic Tex Mex restaurants. Its spicy and uses unique local ingredients. Then the owners decide to retire and sell to Taco Bell for a pretty penny. Would anyone be surprised to hear the old customers say "Taco Bell food sucks"? Would anyone really blame them? You can like Taco Bell and still understand why they wouldn't.

Just move on, dude. Life is to short to cast stones over aesthetic differences.

My advice is to just block the constantly complaining and whining "mE luvZ tHe DiznEE. beHead aLL wOh mOcK teH mouzzzE" bunch. If you feed them with attention, they will always return and try to pee on your leg the very moment you dare to critisize their mously masters. 😂 I am all for free speech, but their contribution just consists of feeling offended by opposing opinions has no substance at all. 😉

11 minutes ago, DarthDude said:

My advice is to just block the constantly complaining and whining "mE luvZ tHe DiznEE. beHead aLL wOh mOcK teH mouzzzE" bunch. If you feed them with attention, they will always return and try to pee on your leg the very moment you dare to critisize their mously masters. 😂 I am all for free speech, but their constribution just consists of feeling offended by opposing opinions has no substance at all. 😉

Not another pointless tangent... One that died pages ago... (got this confused with a different thread)

(word to the wise, don't do stuff like this: "mE luvZ tHe DiznEE. beHead aLL wOh mOcK teH mouzzzE" It just insults the people you disagree with and looks really dumb.)

8 minutes ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

Not another pointless tangent... One that died pages ago... (got this confused with a different thread)

(word to the wise, don't do stuff like this: "mE luvZ tHe DiznEE. beHead aLL wOh mOcK teH mouzzzE" It just insults the people you disagree with and looks really dumb.)

Then let's see (I'll see only through quoting, though) if the bunch overusing “Teh Diznee is evulz becuz teh Diznee” takes your advice to heart. Seems they do not tend to listen to you though you surely voiced your take on that very often for sure. 😉

1 minute ago, DarthDude said:

Then let's see (I'll see only through quoting, though) if the bunch overusing “Teh Diznee is evulz becuz teh Diznee” takes your advice to heart. Seems they do not tend to listen to you though you surely voiced your take on that very often for sure. 😉

Well, if you don't use it, then they're the only ones who look dumb.

1 minute ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

Well, if you don't use it, then they're the only ones who look dumb.

Very fair point!