Not that i imagine this having any effect but who knows.

Both Armada and Legion uses a tone of red that for some with issues seeing certain colors will have a hard time distinguishing. This is far more an issue on the ship cards and ship tokens but at times also with the dice themselves.

Since i dont know all the ships from memory i refer to the cards and often end up grabbing the wrong dice (black when red etc).

I would just love to see FFG change to a slightly more vibrant color of red, the same they use on previews and such since they are always clear.

Im thinking about filling in my cards with red color and ordering a set of custom dice 😮

Colour is something that they have (finally) realised matters, 2nd ed of x-wing uses blue and red on the manoeuvre dials instead of green and red now.

But the dice are still red and green.

Forgive my ignorance but there are no green dice in Armada does Red, black, and blue look the same? If so if you changed it to something else isn’t there the chance that someone else would find the new colours hard to distinguish?

14 minutes ago, XR8rGREAT said:

Forgive my ignorance but there are no green dice in Armada does Red, black, and blue look the same? If so if you changed it to something else isn’t there the chance that someone else would find the new colours hard to distinguish?

For me, its the tone of red they use in armada that is the problem. To me its dark and somewhat dull and unless im in great lighting conditions, i hardly see the difference between them.

on the ship cards its worse, i literally need to hold them under direct light to see if ther red or black.

Its a little better on the armada cards compared to the legion unit cards but not a lot.

Yeah, I've noticed this with the red and black symbols on the cards as well. It's especially true if it's an armament with just a single dice.

Oh I see. What about painting your dice a brighter red then clear coating them? As for the cards I’m not sure.

5 hours ago, XR8rGREAT said:

Oh I see. What about painting your dice a brighter red then clear coating them? As for the cards I’m not sure.

That is an option but ive tried painting dice for other reasons and the result is always a mess But I could have a set of custom dice made, not the cheapest solution perhaps but doable.

I just wish FFG would take this into account for future releases. Just a bit brighter tone to the red would be enough, and still remain in line with the already released products.

Did you experiment with the FFG promo dice? They have some quite different colors you could switch your standard dice to to get better results. Doing so you can still use your dice at official events, just in case you want to go to tournaments.

On 1/3/2020 at 12:52 PM, Attackmack said:

For me, its the tone of red they use in armada that is the problem. To me its dark and somewhat dull and unless im in great lighting conditions, i hardly see the difference between them.

on the ship cards its worse, i literally need to hold them under direct light to see if ther red or black.

Its a little better on the armada cards compared to the legion unit cards but not a lot.

I run into this sometimes with red and blue. If the light is right on the card it's easy enough, but if the lighting's kind of dim or I'm not holding the card up then it's easy to get red and blue confused. I think it's because they're both darker shades. I never have this issue with the dice, though.

On 1/4/2020 at 5:49 PM, Laminidas said:

Did you experiment with the FFG promo dice? They have some quite different colors you could switch your standard dice to to get better results. Doing so you can still use your dice at official events, just in case you want to go to tournaments.

I havent. The dice, while I on occasion grab the wrong one, is usually the smaller problem, its the printing on the cards and ship tokens that is the big problem for me. I could have a set of dice custom made, perhaps the red ones, and that would solve this issue. But since I still only play every now and then, I dont remember the ships dice from memory and refer to the cards and ship tokens often. And find I must lift them up straight under a lamp to see the difference between the red and black icons.

I only need moderate lighting to distinguish the physical dice from each other.

On a sidenote, the legion ones are much worse as even when I hold the card straight under a daylight lamp I have issues distinguishing the red dice icons from the black ones 😕

Ive known all my life I have some form of "color blindness" but for most colors and nuanses its never this bad. The dark red and black is just the worst for me it seems.

Ah, sorry, I misread your first post. If the ship cards cause you trouble, you could pick some adhesive labels with colors easily recognizable for you (or get white labels and paint them yourself). Cut them in narrow stripes and after that in small rectangles of the same size of the ship cards' dice symbols.

Then you put the labels on the ship cards. Hope that helps you a bit since I don't have any experience with color blindness at all.

Would a sticker with alphabet listing of dice work as something to put over the colors dots for ship armament?

Basically, the ISD2 from arc becomes a tiny sticker saying BBBBRRRR or 4b4r. The Hawk Mk1 would be KKBBRRRR / 2k2b4r.

Would that work better?

Have you tried using a red line lasor to sort them out?

The black ones should stay black while the red should reflect the red and wither be fainter or not change, depending on the laser and exact colors. It's not a good longer term solution but it could help.

10 hours ago, Church14 said:

Would a sticker with alphabet listing of dice work as something to put over the colors dots for ship armament?

Basically, the ISD2 from arc becomes a tiny sticker saying BBBBRRRR or 4b4r. The Hawk Mk1 would be KKBBRRRR / 2k2b4r.

Would that work better?

Yes this is a good solution but a bit fiddly to make it look good

But either making labels with better color tones for me or as you suggest with letters nominating the various colors. Ive not come around to doing this though as atm im not playing much but its definitely a doable solution!

8 hours ago, Grathew said:

Have you tried using a red line lasor to sort them out?

The black ones should stay black while the red should reflect the red and wither be fainter or not change, depending on the laser and exact colors. It's not a good longer term solution but it could help.

This is a brilliant idea and I actually tried it immediately wondering why I hadnt thought about it earlier!

Sadly I see no difference in light reflecting rom my red line laser 😕 But still a great idea!

1 hour ago, Attackmack said:

This is a brilliant idea and I actually tried it immediately wondering why I hadnt thought about it earlier!

Sadly I see no difference in light reflecting rom my red line laser 😕 But still a great idea!

Im sorry to hear that.