"Each player draw until he has 8 cards in hands" (check news)
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•Book of Eibon, Mind Bending Revelations
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Game Text: Attach to a character. Attached character’s controller cannot have more than 5 cards in his hand. If that player has more than 5 cards in hand, that player must choose and discard cards from his hand until 5 cards remain.

FAQ 1.1: book of Eibon does not prevent a player from drawing above 5 cards in hand (for example during the draw phase). The card does, however, force a the player affected by its card effect to immediately discard cards from his hand until he has 5 cards remaining anytime he has more than 5 cards in hand.

I have 2 independent timing problems there.

1) First on the story. When you have a "draw 2 cards", you draw all X cards in one time. With the story, it's "until". So you draw 1, you check condition, you draw 1, you check condition... I'm right?

2) Book of Eibon is a gametext so always active. The "anytime" is quite confusing but if it's anytime you can't go up more than 6 cards and you have to immediatly discard.

If one of these 2 problems is right, you can't never reach the 8 cards condition and it's an auto loss...

I *think* because Book of Eibon is not a Disrupt, you would complete the action of the story (Draw until you have 8 cards). Then at the end of the action you would apply Book of Eibon's text.

That makes sense to me, but on the other hand, rules don't have to make sense to me! They just have to be right.

i think youre completely right, book of eibon is a constant effect, and the 'until' does seem to imply you check whether condition is met with every card. in the spirit of the game id assume that eibon should only trigger after all 8 cards are drawn. i do see an errata coming for book of eibon as being a forced response....

Remember an effect must be resolved entirely before an other effect resolves.
So you resolve the story and draw in one time X cards (X =1 or 2 or 3 or 4 etc...). You don't play X times the same effect ! (you have only one effect on the story card).
Then you check the permanent effects in play and discard cards to keep only 5 cards in hand.

May be you're right dadajef on the story part but i'm not sure how you play it. "Until" is clearly different from draw X in my point of view even if it's in the same story effect. It's not saying "you have to draw 8 minus X cards where X is the number of card in your hand".

You still have the problem with anytime-immediatly on the book. Disrupt is a "before effect", anytime seems "during" the effect. It doesn't prevent you from drawing cards but you have to discard immediatly-anytime so...

Anyway, I think it's broken and need an errata as Pearl said. It's not in the game spirit. I'm not ok to transform it in an Forced Response (you can disrupt/cancel it) but more on permanent effect replacing anytime with "After"

blacksun said:

1) You resolve the complete story effect before anything else happens. The word 'until' does not have the effect you're describing here.

2) That's obviously wrong, otherwise the FAQ entry wouldn't have been necessary. Drawing X cards is not X separate actions. It's a single action that cannot be interrupted before X cards have been drawn.

So, you're first drawing X cards (X being the difference between 8 and the number of cards you already have in your hand), then reduce your hand again down to five, i.e. discarding up to three cards.

I'm totally in agreement with Jhaelen sentences :

Drawing is not a game effect that suffer differents interprétation.

"Draw X", "Draw 2 cards", "draw until you got x cards in hand" are simply based on the fact that a certain number of cards is drawn at the same time.

So, the book will enact only after the cards are drawn !