Sith Wayfinder (Rise of Skywalker Spoilers

By Daeglan, in Star Wars: Force and Destiny RPG

How do you think this works? What Mechanics would we use?

Add 1 automatic success to Astrogation checks to reach Exegol.

Alternatively, reduce difficulty of Astrogation checks to reach Exegol.

Edited by Nytwyng
26 minutes ago, Daeglan said:

How do you think this works? What Mechanics would we use?

Stats: "Allows you to screen wipe to Exegol" Because that's literally all it did in the films.

Wonder if there are Jedi Wayfinders maybe that would allow you to get to Tython

15 minutes ago, Daeglan said:

Wonder if there are Jedi Wayfinders maybe that would allow you to get to Tython

I believe the compass that Luke found in the campaign of Battlefront II is what led him to Ach-To (and can be seen among other items on Ach-To).

There were only two Sith wayfinders (one for the master, one for the apprentice). I'd guess that there could be more Jedi compasses out there. The wording in the Rise of Skywalker Visual Dictionary (to me, anyway) makes Exegol sound a little more comparable to Ach-To, as it calls out Moraband/Korriban as being too relatively well-known to be a suitable "secret base" for Palpatine. So I think Tython would be more equivalent to Moraband/Korriban and not necessarily require a special artifact to get to.

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ETA: Getting a bit inspired to do a planet sheet for Tython, and looking up information, it appears that not only is it back in canon, but (with me being months behind in reading the Star Wars comics) Doctor Aphra led Vader to Tython in issue 40 of her series, claiming it housed the new Rebel base, redirecting him from Hoth. So, unless I get to that issue and Aphra needed a McGuffin like the compass, it appears no special artifact is necessary to get there.

Edited by Nytwyng
15 minutes ago, Nytwyng said:

I believe the compass that Luke found in the campaign of Battlefront II is what led him to Ach-To (and can be seen among other items on Ach-To).

There were only two Sith wayfinders (one for the master, one for the apprentice). I'd guess that there could be more Jedi compasses out there. The wording in the Rise of Skywalker Visual Dictionary (to me, anyway) makes Exegol sound a little more comparable to Ach-To, as it calls out Moraband/Korriban as being too relatively well-known to be a suitable "secret base" for Palpatine. So I think Tython would be more equivalent to Moraband/Korriban and not necessarily require a special artifact to get to.

latest?cb=20180617015737

ETA: Getting a bit inspired to do a planet sheet for Tython, and looking up information, it appears that not only is it back in canon, but (with me being months behind in reading the Star Wars comics) Doctor Aphra led Vader to Tython in issue 40 of her series, claiming it housed the new Rebel base, redirecting him from Hoth. So, unless I get to that issue and Aphra needed a McGuffin like the compass, it appears no special artifact is necessary to get there.

I have it I will look it up for you

1 minute ago, Daeglan said:

I have it I will look it up for you

I've got it, too...I'm just way behind on actually reading them. I think the last issue of Aphra that I've read is 29. The rest are sitting here waiting for me to sit down and read 'em.

It'd probably be akin to having current astrogation data and pre-plotted calculations, but only to take the ship to Exegol, setting the base difficulty at 1 purple.

The hyperspace energy nebula/maelstrom is probably worth either a bunch of upgrades to the difficulty or a mess of setback dice, but again the wayfinder would negate those, making getting to Exegol pretty easy once you know the way. It may not be quite as simple if you're using a copy (either downloaded from a ship that's already made the trek through the route or broadcasted by a ship in the process of making the trip), but it'd be a lot easier than not having any sort of navigational data to work from.

Im guessing Exogol would be in the Deep Core? Or do you think it was in a dence part of Wild Space?

I believe that it is in the Unknown Regions.

1 hour ago, Daeglan said:

Im guessing Exogol would be in the Deep Core? Or do you think it was in a dence part of Wild Space?

1 hour ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

I believe that it is in the Unknown Regions.

It’s explicitly stated to be in the Unknown Regions.

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4 hours ago, Daeglan said:

Im guessing Exogol would be in the Deep Core? Or do you think it was in a dence part of Wild Space?

The Visual Dictionary puts it way out in the Unknown Regions, as per the map image that Nytwing posted.

On 12/31/2019 at 3:59 PM, Nytwyng said:

Which book is this from?

25 minutes ago, Daeglan said:

Which book is this from?

The Rise of Skywalker Visual Dictionary.

I would say the user gets one automatic success on an astrogation check to reach one encoded location.

1 hour ago, Nytwyng said:

The Rise of Skywalker Visual Dictionary.

Have to get it and get a better scan of that map and sent it to the guy who has been doing the galaxy map

1 minute ago, Vondy said:

I would say the user gets one automatic success on an astrogation check to reach one encoded location.

Probably the first one. but subsequent ones are less assured because of the chaos of skipping

Who here thinks those things are reverse-engineered from Rakatan Star Maps?

3 minutes ago, Voltron64 said:

Who here thinks those things are reverse-engineered from Rakatan Star Maps?

In the visual dictionary, it is stated that the tech is reverse-engineered from the Purrgil (space-whales from Rebels).

11 hours ago, Edgehawk said:

In the visual dictionary, it is stated that the tech is reverse-engineered from the Purrgil (space-whales from Rebels).

Well, if the Rakata, the Infinite Empire, and/or the Star Maps ever make it back to canon in some, it'll likely be said that the Star Maps were themselves reverse-engineered from Purrgil brains, and that the Jedi compass and Sith wayfinders are actually offshoots of that technology.

For a GM that's including the Rakata and associated materials into their campaign's canon, that explanation still works. The compass and wayfinder were both reverse-engineered from the Purgill, however there's perhaps one degree of separation in the form of the Star Maps.

I am wondering in universe how do the Jedi Compass and Sith Wayfinder work...

On 1/5/2020 at 6:05 AM, Donovan Morningfire said:

Well, if the Rakata, the Infinite Empire, and/or the Star Maps ever make it back to canon in some, it'll likely be said that the Star Maps were themselves reverse-engineered from Purrgil brains, and that the Jedi compass and Sith wayfinders are actually offshoots of that technology.

For a GM that's including the Rakata and associated materials into their campaign's canon, that explanation still works. The compass and wayfinder were both reverse-engineered from the Purgill, however there's perhaps one degree of separation in the form of the Star Maps.

Well the Rakata would have been messed up enough to actually do that sort of horrific experimentation on those endearing purgills...

16 minutes ago, Voltron64 said:

Well the Rakata would have been messed up enough to actually do that sort of horrific experimentation on those endearing purgills...

You mean the murderous monsters who kidnapped a noted art enthusiast. :D

22 minutes ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

You mean the murderous monsters who kidnapped a noted art enthusiast. :D

Well they were saving the Art enthusiast from that Murderous Jedi....